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Unfortunately, it looks like they are. :( Take a look at these two articles I posted about some way back in this thread.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2430034#post2430034

AMD royally screwed up with this launch and their future as an x86 CPU manufacturer doesn't look too rosy right now. :ohwell:
Didn't you already said it all in 2 words? Itanium (1) fiasco (2).

What else is there to say? Previous and future failures do not mitigate the failure that Bulldozer is right now plain and simple.
my bad, i should've written then "what do you make of..."

i better start reading though i doubt anyone would make a design with so much useless transistors.
 
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I see very few people defending Bulldozer. Me myself is defending the Phenom II X6 1100T which appears to be holding its own against Bulldozer and SB at times. Fvck Bulldozer.
It may hold on it's own and don't get me wrong, the PII x6 is a fantastic CPU, but Bulldozer is still the faster CPU and the better buy IMO. Just check out the review sites. The PII x6 1100T only win a few of them. Here is an example of one site:
The FX 8150 (13 WIN) beat out the x6 1100T (6 WIN) in 13 out of 19 Benchmarks
The FX 8120 (11 WIN) beat out the x6 1100T (8 WIN) in 11 out of 19 Benchmarks

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx-8150--8120-6100-and-4100-performance-review/3

Of course it is an issue. A big one. There's no way they can ever dream of really competing in price. It also means that they just cannot add more logic in order to fix things unless they really do fix things. No "trying" allowed, only success is allowed.

And new design or not, the design was suposed to reduce the transistors required per-core or per-performance unit, but it has made it skyrocket instead. Such a huge difference from what it was claimed to be (+25% aka 750 million) to what it really is, just cannot come from bad execution alone. The concept is flawed from the beginning.
AMD Working on Bulldozer B3 Stepping (It's coming, and I assume it will be Piledriver in Q1 2011)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4997/amd-working-on-bulldozer-b3-stepping
 
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damn did they f up! :shadedshu i had no idea that their architecture is so full of holes, so to speak. thanks for the links qubit! :toast:
 
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The same thing was said about the Phenom I, where AMD scewed up. Hopefully this B3 stepping will do the trick. Also I made an error, Piledriver is not coming until Q3 2012, though I believe the B3 revision should be within our grasp in Q1 2012.
 
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The same thing was said about the Phenom I, where AMD scewed up. Hopefully this B3 stepping will do the trick. Also I made an error, Piledriver is not coming until Q3 2012, though I believe the B3 revision should be within our grasp in Q1 2012.
We will see Piledriver earlier than Q3 2012



Vishera Piledriver... is unknown but more likely Q3 2012

If the Trinity Quad-core beats or loses to the Llano/Zambezi Quad-core we will know the answer if Piledriver fixes anything
 
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I though Piledriver was on schedule for Q1 2012?
I think we should let Bulldozer slide, give AMD a break, but no break for Piledrive that CPU line better perform much better.
I don't care about trying to beat Intel's top $1000 beasts, as long as AMD keeps strong pressure on the mid range while still staying strong and competitive with the high end.
Am I going to buy a Bulldozer, maybe because I don't use my PC for gaming only, I think the FX 8150 and FX 8120 do good enough in gaming.
What I am dissatisfied with is the new quad and 6 core Bulldozers. Dam AMD, screw servers/workstations, concentrate Bulldozer's update to run much better for desktop and it's apps.
 
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I though Piledriver was on schedule for Q1 2012?
I think we should let Bulldozer slide, give AMD a break, but no break for Piledrive that CPU line better perform much better.
I don't care about trying to beat Intel's top $1000 beasts, as long as AMD keeps strong pressure on the mid range while still staying strong and competitive with the high end.
Am I going to buy a Bulldozer, maybe because I don't use my PC for gaming only, I think the FX 8150 and FX 8120 do good enough in gaming.
What I am dissatisfied with is the new quad and 6 core Bulldozers. Dam AMD, screw servers/workstations, concentrate Bulldozer's update to run much better for desktop and it's apps.
I remain pretty sure PileDriver is scheduled for Q1 2012. It was, and I haven't seen anything that indicates otherwise, except rumors.
 
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Well I hope so, I wonder if the FX 8170 will be the Piledriver or the Bulldozer based CPU. It can very well be called something like FX2 8170 or something. But if AMD calls the new CPU's FX Next, then somebody really needs a bitch slap upside there head :nutkick:
 
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piledriver is supposed to be released in q1 2012 with the trinity APU, there are only rumours stating the release of the piledriver fx series and they state late q2 or q3.
 
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Well I hope so, I wonder if the FX 8170 will be the Piledriver or the Bulldozer based CPU. It can very well be called something like FX2 8170 or something. But if AMD calls the new CPU's FX Next, then somebody really needs a bitch slap upside there head :nutkick:
I think it is going to follow the Intel model numbers this time

FX-8210/8250/8270
 
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I think it is going to follow the Intel model numbers this time

FX-8210/8250/8270
Yes that makes a lot more sense. Once agian thank you for your informative posts. :D
 
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Well I hope so, I wonder if the FX 8170 will be the Piledriver or the Bulldozer based CPU. It can very well be called something like FX2 8170 or something. But if AMD calls the new CPU's FX Next, then somebody really needs a bitch slap upside there head :nutkick:
Somebody already needs a bitch slap upside their head for releasing the beta.
 

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Seconded!
 
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