Why is my machine acting like this?

[trparky]

OK so let's get some history of this machine of mine out and into the open here. I have an ASUS P8Z77-V motherboard, 16 GBs of Corsair Vengeance PC3-12800 (1600MHz) at 9-9-9-24, an Intel Core i5 3570k CPU at stock clock (yeah, I know), an AMD R9 380 GPU, and a Samsung 850 EVO SSD as the primary boot drive. I also have four other hard drives hanging off the SATA controller(s). The motherboard has a third-party ASMedia SATA controller onboard but I don't use it except for one hard drive that's slow as heck anyways so I don't mind if it has slow performance; it's used mainly as a data dump.

Anyways, now with all of that said let's get onto why I made this thread. Everything about this system seems sluggish. Windows is sluggish, programs load slow, even the Task Manager opens up slowly as if it's hesitating in loading.

Yes, I made sure that the Samsung SSD is running off of the Intel controller, yes TRIM is enabled and has been verified to be working as per TrimCheck, and yes it booting in UEFI mode.

My father's Hewlett Packard notebook PC that has a Core i7 2670QM (quad-core with Hyperthreading) mobile chip is faster at some tasks than my Core i5 3570k and mobile chips are supposed to be slower than desktop chips.

Why the hell is this system of mine feel like it's dragging a boat anchor behind it? It should be speeding along like a Ferrari 911 Turbo yet it feels like it's a Ford Pinto sometimes. I don't understand why this system is acting like this and it's aggravating as all hell. I can't seem to find where the damn performance bottleneck is in this system of mine.

Have I simply reached the limits of what this system can do or is there something wrong with it? I have tried to overclock the chip to 4.2 GHz but it didn't do an ounce of good and resulted in a barely negligible increase in performance. Can I fix the system that I have or do I simply have to accept that it may perhaps be time to put this system out to pasture?

 

[jboydgolfer]

have you scanned for Malware, or viruses? have you run Teaskmanager, or process explorer to see what is running? You could try booting into safe mode, with minimal processes and see if that helps, also, check to see what it set to run @ start up. this could either rule out HW being the issue, or determine it is the problem.

 

[Estaric]

it sound like it could be some sort of virus or to many back ground processes. Should not be a issue with the cpu listed or the amount of ram you have nothing in terms of hardware should be bottlenecking from what i can tell.

 

[trparky]

It's a clean installation of Windows 10, reinstalled it on April 15th. Both Windows Defender and MalwareBytes have verified that the system is clean of all malware. I have attached a text file with a list of the running processes on my system as of right this moment.

 

[newtekie1]

All the drivers loaded in device manager? Make sure there are no devices with yellow exclamation points or any that say "generic blah blah blah".

Are all the programs installed on the SSD or are some running off the HDDs?

 

[trparky]

99.9% of the programs I run are installed on the SSD, only a few games are installed on the HDD due to space constraints. No device drivers are missing in Device Manager.

 

[DRDNA]

Have I simply reached the limits of what this system can do or is there something wrong with it? I have tried to overclock the chip to 4.2 GHz but it didn't do an ounce of good and resulted in a barely negligible increase in performance. Can I fix the system that I have or do I simply have to accept that it may perhaps be time to put this system out to pasture?

It's a clean installation of Windows 10, reinstalled it on April 15th. Both Windows Defender and MalwareBytes have verified that the system is clean of all malware. I have attached a text file with a list of the running processes on my system as of right this moment.

Try reinstalling the mobo chipset driver from the vendor website. and any of the other ones that may pertain to the issue.

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/P8Z77V/HelpDesk_Download/

 

[Tallencor]

Maybe try running a cpu bench test like cinebench or a memory benchmark. May as well add a ssd bench while your at it and compare with others in the programs respective tables with the same hardware. Try your video card in uefi mode if it has a switch? Bench it as well. If after you score the same or similar move on to a task manager watch while doing your problematic tasks to see if your throttling or hitting high usage ex 100%. Use real temp to see if your cpu is hitting it's thermal limit. If so. Re set your cooler with new Tim and re do all benchmarks.
If it still acts odd try dl ING a paid driver tools free trial and see what it says are outdated. Make a record of said outdated drivers, uninstall the program and update from the proper hardware websites. Also try super anti spyware for virus scan it works well. And last try Ccleaner.
Phew
Edit. Your using a 6 Gb sec Sata port not 3 right? I assume your using magician software 5.0. It tells you on the drives main page. Silly I know but......

 

[trparky]

Oh yes, I have made sure that the SSD is plugged into the right SATA port; I confirmed that with the motherboard manual's SATA port diagram.

Cinebench 15 CPU score was 489.

Try your video card in uefi mode if it has a switch?

How would I even make sure that it is in UEFI mode?

CPU temps never really rise above 35c unless CPU usage rises to 100% and even then it's never hotter than 45c. I monitor this via HWiNFO64.

 

[Tallencor]

My old 7870 xt had a dual bios switch on the pcb. Sapphire brand. Really dosnt make much diff. Just faster boot times from os sleep state but it's one of those things that overall makes boot times faster and therefor makes overall system responce just feel better. Research ur card to see if it has one. This is however more of a tweek and not a fix. I recommend doing all of the other tasks first.

 

[Caring1]

Oh yes, I have made sure that the SSD is plugged into the right SATA port; I confirmed that with the motherboard manual's SATA port diagram.

Cinebench 15 CPU score was 489.

How would I even make sure that it is in UEFI mode?

CPU temps never really rise above 35c unless CPU usage rises to 100% and even then it's never hotter than 45c. I monitor this via HWiNFO64.

Don't worry about playing with switches on your GPU, that won't affect the CPU's performance.
My 3570K run 508 @ stock, 520 @3.8GHz in C.B. 15.
I have half the Ram and had a slower GPU at that time.
Run memtest on your Ram one stick at a time, and look at your SSD's health using the manufacturer's software.

 

[pigulici]

Scan your hdd for bad sectors, also check the health/firmware of ssd, too...

 

[MrGenius]

How would I even make sure that it is in UEFI mode?

Open GPU-Z and look for a check mark in the UEFI box.

 

[Dethroy]

Have you checked the Event Viewer yet? It might detect the faults/errors that are causing said behavior.

 

[silentbogo]

In addition to that I can only suggest checking if the AsMedia controller is not at fault.
Disconnect the HDD from the controller port, disable AsMedia SATA controller in BIOS and check if hiccups in your system have disappeared.
It might be a shot in the dark, but I had my share of bad experience with AsMedia SATA and USB3.0 controllers (on motherboards, PCIe expansion cards and even external HDD enclosures). Newer chipsets seem to be more reliable.

 

[Melvis]

I hate to say it but it could be the OS, have you tried something else? also checked all your sata cables, swap them with others and make sure there all connected correctly and all drivers are correctly installed.

 

[ixi]

I would disable AsMedia controler and then check how it will run only with ssd if still lugish, have you checked your RAM slots? By RAM slots I meant do you have plugged them in by correct slots? Check mobo manual.

 

[trparky]

Don't worry about playing with switches on your GPU, that won't affect the CPU's performance.
My 3570K run 508 @ stock, 520 @3.8GHz in C.B. 15.
I have half the Ram and had a slower GPU at that time.
Run memtest on your Ram one stick at a time, and look at your SSD's health using the manufacturer's software.

MemTest has checked out fine in the past. As far as the SSD it's in good health too.

Scan your hdd for bad sectors, also check the health/firmware of ssd, too...

The SSD doesn't have the latest firmware, it's only one version older than what Samsung has published for the drive but people over at Overclock.net have said to avoid this new version like the plague. Something about reduced performance so the general idea is to not update your SSD to that firmware.

Open GPU-Z and look for a check mark in the UEFI box.

Yep, it's UEFI mode enabled; I just checked.

Have you checked the Event Viewer yet? It might detect the faults/errors that are causing said behavior.

I have attached my system logs if anyone wants to take a look at them.

In addition to that I can only suggest checking if the AsMedia controller is not at fault.
Disconnect the HDD from the controller port, disable AsMedia SATA controller in BIOS and check if hiccups in your system have disappeared.

It might be a shot in the dark, but I had my share of bad experience with AsMedia SATA and USB3.0 controllers (on motherboards, PCIe expansion cards and even external HDD enclosures). Newer chipsets seem to be more reliable.

I'll try disabling the controller in the UEFI BIOS but the drive that's on that controller is barely used, it's more like a data dump/archive drive than anything else. It's not actively used 99% of the time.

I hate to say it but it could be the OS, have you tried something else? also checked all your sata cables, swap them with others and make sure there all connected correctly and all drivers are correctly installed.

Would I be getting a lot of BSODs if the SATA cables were bad? As for the OS, well... it could be that this board was made for Windows 7 and that I'm running Windows 10 on it. ASUS doesn't even provide drivers for Windows 10 for this board. It could very well be that because I'm trying to shoehorn Windows 10 onto this board that no matter what I do it's going to run like crap. If that's the case I really have no other choice but to upgrade the hardware of the system since there are many things that are part of Windows 7 that I like using. Yeah, I know, a lot of people hate on Windows 10 but after using it for a year now I can't imagine going back to Windows 7.

I would disable AsMedia controler and then check how it will run only with ssd if still lugish, have you checked your RAM slots? By RAM slots I meant do you have plugged them in by correct slots? Check mobo manual.

All four RAM slots are being used, each of the four sticks are 4 GBs making up 16 GBs. I reseated the modules a year or two ago when I was having some memory issues but reseating them solved them and a 12 hour MemTest86+ test confirmed that it checked out fine.

 

[Pehla]

lots of errors on your logs!!kernel files corupted and so on,maybe do reinstall of windows...
sometimes even if you do clean windows installaion you get wierd shit going on!! its good if you notice it right after that,so you can reinstall it before you put some software on it..
and to be honest... i had similar issue in the past and im thinking about it all this time trying to remember what i did to fix it!!!!

 

[Jetster]

So you moved your page file? Reset to controlled by Windows and see if it helps

 

[trparky]

So you moved your page file? Reset to controlled by Windows and see if it helps

Uh... no, I didn't move the page file.

 

[Jetster]

Uh... no, I didn't move the page file.

I was confused by the statement that you use the slow drive for Data Dumps.

 

[DRDNA]

Would I be getting a lot of BSODs if the SATA cables were bad? As for the OS, well... it could be that this board was made for Windows 7 and that I'm running Windows 10 on it. ASUS doesn't even provide drivers for Windows 10 for this board. It could very well be that because I'm trying to shoehorn Windows 10 onto this board that no matter what I do it's going to run like crap. If that's the case I really have no other choice but to upgrade the hardware of the system since there are many things that are part of Windows 7 that I like using. Yeah, I know, a lot of people hate on Windows 10 but after using it for a year now I can't imagine going back to Windows 7.

OK so let's get some history of this machine of mine out and into the open here. I have an ASUS P8Z77-V motherboard,

yes it does https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/P8Z77V/HelpDesk_Download/

 

[biffzinker]

HardDisk6 has a bad block.


Also seeing a lot of "Write Delay Failed" on April 20th.


This shows up as several separate events on April 15.
"The system firmware has changed the processor's memory type range registers (MTRRs) across a sleep state transition (S4). This can result in reduced resume performance."

Critical Event for April 17:
"The description for Event ID 41 from source Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer."

 

[eidairaman1]

Remove that slow drive off of the asmedia controller, do not hook it back up, see if response in windows changes, if it gets quicker you have a bad drive.

@biffzinker has a point above

@cdawall you care to add to this?