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Will GTX 980Ti fit inside my current system specs?

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Also a 980 at 1440P will be just behind a 980 Ti at 1600P performance wise.
so for the NV camp at max
1080P = 970
1440P = 980
1600P = 980 Ti
4K = 980 Ti SLI

For the AMD Camp
1080P = 390(X)
1440P = Fury (X)
1600P = pls switch to NV or 390X 8GB Crossfire
4K = pls switch to NV or Fury X Crossfire

Pretty universal that way. Pick your poison.

Fury X cost roughly the same as a 980Ti and competes directly with it I am confused as to why you are downgrading it to be equal to a 980?





This is especially true as the resolution is pushed higher in the game being questioned. Mind you these are with older drivers and depending on review you read the numbers vary.
 
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The Fury line does well/better against the 980/980Ti as the resolution goes up... ;)
 

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Fury X cost roughly the same as a 980Ti and competes directly with it I am confused as to why you are downgrading it to be equal to a 980?





This is especially true as the resolution is pushed higher in the game being questioned. Mind you these are with older drivers and depending on review you read the numbers vary.


You're comparing a factory overclocked Fury Tri-X to a non overclocked 980 Ti. You need to compare a factory overclocked Fury to a factory overclocked 980 Ti to be fair. Here are the benches for a MSI 980 Ti Gaming. Compare these benches to your posted benches and look at Fury X to compare both Flagships.







also the non reference 980 Ti overclocks even further better than the Fury X overclocks.
 

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The Fury line does well/better against the 980/980Ti as the resolution goes up... ;)

Yeah, it does look like the gap closes for the Fury X as resolution increases.
 

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The Fury line does well/better against the 980/980Ti as the resolution goes up... ;)

Exactly...

You're comparing a factory overclocked Fury Tri-X to a non overclocked 980 Ti. You need to compare a factory overclocked Fury to a factory overclocked 980 Ti to be fair. Here are the benches for a MSI 980 Ti Gaming. Compare these benches to your posted benches and look at Fury X to compare both Flagships.







also the non reference 980 Ti overclocks even further better than the Fury X overclocks.

Actually I was comparing a 980Ti to a reference fury x with newer drivers for both AMD and NV. I actually mentioned the drivers in my post...
 
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Fury X cost roughly the same as a 980Ti and competes directly with it I am confused as to why you are downgrading it to be equal to a 980?


This is especially true as the resolution is pushed higher in the game being questioned. Mind you these are with older drivers and depending on review you read the numbers vary.
the listing shows Fury (X) not Fury X. Parenthesis are not accidental on either inclusion. The point being the OP listed 3 years as a target and its not an unreasonable one. The funniest thing about running GTX 480 SLI for 3 years was discovering that when one card failed, I could run the same detail level and resolution as SLI on a single card even games that came out 3 years after I bought them, a waste of 400$. As long as the raw HP is there in the architecture you'll be set for that duration.

HBM is cool but it will not make up for 2GB less vram or 32 fewer ROP's 3 years down the line. The GTX 570 was faster than the 480 when it came out. It has not maintained that lead now as the shortcomings of the architecture came to light, like less vram, fewer ROP's and Fewer TMU's.

The Fury X is faster than the 980 but slower than the 980 Ti at 1600P for most games currently. For a 3 year recomendation on 1600P I'm saying that the 980 Ti is the min. So Fury X doesn't make the cut and gets put down with the Non-X Fury recommendation of the 1440P line. No fanboyism, just pure speculation based on what's happened in similar scenarios in the past. The stronger the underlying features of the architecture, the longer it performs at a high level, and 96 ROP's are going to be stronger longer than 64.
 

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Only issue with all of that I see is how are you comparing ROP's between AMD and nvidia? May as well compare core clock at that point or TDP.

I understand the memory issue, honestly I don't know if that will make a huge difference, but it may.
 
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Even if they are not equal, they are extremely similar in function and far more important than TDP or core clock. It will matter in the long run. It always does. The 16 ROP 2900XT against the 20 ROP 8800 GTS 640MB loses more today than it did at launch. (not to mention the 24 ROP 8800GTX )This is true whether comparing the 1GB 2900XT or 512MB 2900XT.

There are more examples but I don't want to get into a sources war. The point is the 96 ROP's will matter over a 3 year span whereas clock speed and tdp will not. (granted there are the super tdp nazi's that will balk at anything higher than their idea of acceptable)
 

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Eh quite a few things are dependent. I'm sure there are examples in both directions for that one...I would say the 8800GTS was by far a better design when placed against the 2900XT. Kind of how I view the Fury series, needs improvement yes, but nothing touches it in memory bandwidth which makes one hell of a difference.

The TDP nazi comment however has made my day. You sir have won the internet for today.
 
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