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Will Radeon 9070 XT be enough for 3840x1600 resolution?

Going by the review I just posted (computerbase) the 9070xt is kinda depressing, 3% ahead of the 4070ti S at 1440p and 1% behind in RT. Progress in 2025, that's it I guess.

For sure this generation is all kinds of bad but if someone needs/wants more performance it is what it is.

Everyone would have been better off with a 4070ti super a year ago and enjoying it for a whole year but the reality is people waited for somthing better and this was the thank you they got for their patience....

I mean the 5080 is hard to get for less than 4090 money it's just all around sucks.

5070ti super is 4080 super money ish.

And the 5070 just plain sucks at 700 usd.

Waiting usually pays off not this time.
 
Go for a 5070 Ti.
No. Just... No. It's a 9070 XT but more expensive.

So my monitor is LG 38WN95C. Its 38" Ultrawide with this weird resolution. It's not that im lazy i already watched lots of benchmarks (especially for games that interest me) but beign this weird resolution i am not sure how should i approach that. Now i was told its closer to 4k than to 1440p and i should just check 4k benchmarks and add about 10-15% more fps to the result, that might be the way to go.
That would be the way to go. :)

Im still building rest of my system but it will be something like this:

x870 MSI tomahawk
9800X3D CPU
2x 32gb CL30 6000 ram
LG 38WN95C monitor

Rest of specs does not matter i believe.
Yeah, those specs are great.

And wow i did not expect so many replies, so just to throw some more light onto the matter, i would like 120fps in older games, but newer 60-90 range would be enough. Im just scared that games like Silent Hill 2 or Alan Wake 2, or even Wukong won't even run at 60 fps without FSR4 or upscaling. I do not care about PT and if i do, that will be in future 2-3 years and i might change GPU then if market gets better.
I'm just about to install Windows (I'm struggling with Epic games on Linux). Once I do, I'll let you know about Alan Wake 2 at 3440x1440.

I also would like to run Kingdom Come Delivarance in in about 90 fps and enjoy the game on ultra. I heard it will have FSR4 support so that might be worth something.
KCD 1 is fine, but KCD 2 might be a hard stretch. At 3440x1440, Experimental settings, I'm getting about 50 FPS without FSR. With FSR Performance, I get about 80. Your best bet is decreasing your settings to High, which results in literally zero perceptible image quality difference, but doubles your FPS.

Again, I'm on Linux, mind you, and I suspect you'd get about +10-15% performance on Windows.
 
For what it's worth, I'm running a 3440x1440 monitor, so around 80% of your pixels, and with a 10% slower card, the Sapphire Pulse RX 9070 (non-XT), just slightly undervolted, on native resolution with a mix of Ultra/High settings (and RT activated where it's possible) I'm getting these averages according to Adrenalin:
  • Forza Horizon 5: ~202FPS
  • God of War: ~175FPS
  • Counter Strike 2: ~262FPS
Good luck on your hunt, no matter what you grab :)
 
Unless you're willing to pay quite-literally insane pricing for a highly-unavailable 32GB Green Team card,
There isn't an AMD card 'enough' for >1440p, IMEO.

Now, that we've accepted that 'enough' isn't happening. What can we settle with?
Sometimes, you need to use the Technology (Upscaling + Frame Generation) which is provided for 4K@240hz high refresh Gaminng :)
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The numbers measured in "native" fps most of those "Testing Stations" privoding aren`t interesting anymore.
Yup. I don't know how good FSR4 is (yet), and how-readily DLSS-only games can utilize it (or FSR3-<)

But, if you can accept 'Machine Intelligence Scaling' and 'Machine Intelligence Frames'
the not-XTX 9070 XTs (3x 8-pin/12-pin >304W+ - 340w+ TGP Navi48) do seem to do surprisingly well w/ their meager 16GB of 256-bit GDDR6, at >1440p.

Personally, I've seen enough weird to not want a 'Red Devil' in my build. :oops:
Thankfully, Acer(Maple) will (eventually?) be offering 2 different 3x 8-pin 9070XTs. The Acer Predator Bifrost, and the Acer Nitro.


 
4080 and 4090 too are better. However your point stands, the prices are beyond nuts.

OP, 9070 XT would be a rushed and impulsive upgrade. It's just 50ish percent faster than what you have. 40 to 60 FPS that is. Noticeable? Yes. Wow? Absolutely not.

Wait till 5090 level becomes affordable. At some point, it will. But before then, at these prices, better enjoy older titles that run well than contribute to the global pricing clown fiesta.
An affordable 5090 seems like a long wait for someone itching now. I'd say four years at least and may be more if they continue to only offer substantive uplift at the top of the stack.

They are in a tough spot though, if the 3080 was a 12GB model I would also probably stretch it one more generation because I'd like to double the performance and to approach that they would need at least a 4080 and yeah more betta, the 5090.
 
An affordable 5090 seems like a long wait for someone itching now. I'd say four years at least and may be more if they continue to only offer substantive uplift at the top of the stack.

They are in a tough spot though, if the 3080 was a 12GB model I would also probably stretch it one more generation because I'd like to double the performance and to approach that they would need at least a 4080 and yeah more betta, the 5090.
Unless the next GeForce RTX series and/or AMD UDNA provides a *large leap* over current and the last 2 generations...

we'll just see more of this:
Folks... I present "Today's best deal"
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We are solidly (and deeply) in the land of lunacy.

An RX 9070 (XT) at anywhere near release pricing, is basically the defacto 'Deal of the year'
My 7900 XTX Nitro went up in price as the RTX 5k and RX 9k series neared release. Even after the release, they're still very inflated.
 
My 7900 XTX Nitro went up in price as the RTX 5k and RX 9k series neared release. Even after the release, they're still very inflated.
In my country, no 7000 series card has still downgraded the price, not raised though, but not a penny less than 2 months ago. Just maybe some 50EUR off on one 7900 XT, but that's all. Crazy market.
 
Now i am not sure if i should grab 9070 XT Red Devil which is around 950 euro in my country or wait a little and go for RTX 5080 which is 1450 euro.
Hello.

The Red Devil is a very good AIB card (I think everyone will agree) so in that regard you can be sure you're getting a good product.
You didn't mention what model of 5080 you found at 1450 €. Because if it's a lower tier one with a crappier cooler then a case could be made for a cheaper and slower card that runs quieter and cooler.

The problem here is the ratio between the prices.
If I compare MSRPs, the 5080 (at 1000) is 66.7% more expensive than the 9070 XT (at 600). The price to performance ratio of the 5080 is worse (basically every reviewer says this).
However in your example the 5080 (at 1450) is 52.6% more expensive than the 9070 XT (at 950). So this 9070 XT model is overpriced relatively speaking compared to the 5080.

What would be interesting to know here is what the 5070 Ti costs in your country.
Again going back to MSRPs, the 5070 Ti (at 750) is 25% more expensive than the 9070 XT (at 600). That percentage needs to be maintained in order for the 9070 XT to be considered a better deal. If the percentage is lower the 5070 Ti pulls ahead with its lower power draw and better features. If the percentage is higher and the comparison is made between similar tier cards then the 9070 XT would be a better deal.

Again this is judging the cards in a vacuum just by the ratios, right now everything is horribly overpriced and not worth buying.

The Steel Legend at 800 € is better priced, the Red Devil's cooler is superior but surely not by 150 €, again what needs to be taken into account is the difference compared to the competition. Most likely the retailers are smart enough to overprice everything by the same percentage so that in the end there is no truly good deal in absolute terms.
 
You didn't mention what model of 5080 you found at 1450 €. Because if it's a lower tier one with a crappier cooler then a case could be made for a cheaper and slower card that runs quieter and cooler.
Hello,

It's Zotac GeForce RTX 5080 AMP Extreme Infinity. I think it's a pretty good GPU. But yeah like You mentioned i pay premium. Im just worried how is life without DLSS and all these gimmicks from Nvidia. I also like to play older classics and hoping 9070XT will not cause any issues.

Im not interested in HDR, as for Ray Tracing, never used it cause my GPU is too weak, but i guess would be fun to be able to tick it and check out how it looks. But performance and framerates are most important to me i guess.
 
About resolution, You have to display 3840x1600 = 6 144 000 pixels, 4k has 3840*2160 = 8 294 400 pixels, so Your resolution is 74% of 4k.
 
What games? What's your rest of system specs? What FPS requirement do you have? What settings? FSR? What operating system?

There's too many open questions. I'd recommend reading reviews and finding the answer for yourself.

My 9070 XT is running great, I love it, but my great might not be the same as your great.

I'd say two certain things, though:
1. The only things above the 9070 XT are the 5080 and 5090, both of which are horribly more expensive.
2. Nothing is really worth buying at current prices. Waiting might be beneficial.
What kinds of improvement are you seeing over your previous card (which model was it)? If you have any FPS numbers for your favorite games, that would be helpful.

Also, how is FSR4 in your subjective opinion? Did you use FSR 1.0/2.0/3.0 a lot?

I am trying to judge if the 9070 XT is going to be my next card or not. I usually make large upgrade jumps instead of year-to-year.
 
Also, how is FSR4 in your subjective opinion?
For eye candy maniacs, it's passable on Quality preset at 4K. (those who trust UE5 to murder the gaming industry)
For normal people, does fine on Quality or sometimes even Balanced, at 1440p. (typical for those who play rather action packed shooters and racing games)
If what you care for is FPS and if you can tell what's going on then 1080p + FSR 4 Perfomance is fine, too. (typical Counter-Strike gamer)

Generally on par or very little better than DLSS3. FSR3 is just no match, total garbage compared to FSR4.
I am trying to judge if the 9070 XT is going to be my next card or not
If you're on some RX 6600 / RTX 2070S or worse GPU then why not getting it at MSRP. But at MSRP only. Don't think it's any worth it at 670+ USD + VAT.
 
One local store put RTX 5080 for about 1220 euro and i clicked just in case. Turns out they also offer cashback for another store purchase of 100 euro (which i could use for other PC parts and save). So technically i could get RTX 5080 for about 1100 euro post-tax (if we consider i need to spend on other pc parts anyway) or red devil 9070XT for around 900 euro post tax.

It's tempting but im scared of missing rops, burning my PC or driver issues cause i read 50xx series have so many issues. Not gonna lie, jump to TeamRed was also tempting to touch the grass on the other side.
 
One local store put RTX 5080 for about 1220 euro and i clicked just in case. Turns out they also offer cashback for another store purchase of 100 euro (which i could use for other PC parts and save). So technically i could get RTX 5080 for about 1100 euro post-tax (if we consider i need to spend on other pc parts anyway) or red devil 9070XT for around 900 euro post tax.

It's tempting but im scared of missing rops, burning my PC or driver issues cause i read 50xx series have so many issues. Not gonna lie, jump to TeamRed was also tempting to touch the grass on the other side.
Or you could wait two months and the prices of both will probably drop as the 9070 XT competes with more supply and the 5080 adjusts prices in response.
 
It's Zotac GeForce RTX 5080 AMP Extreme Infinity. I think it's a pretty good GPU.
It sure is.

Im just worried how is life without DLSS and all these gimmicks from Nvidia. I also like to play older classics and hoping 9070XT will not cause any issues.

Im not interested in HDR, as for Ray Tracing, never used it cause my GPU is too weak, but i guess would be fun to be able to tick it and check out how it looks. But performance and framerates are most important to me i guess.
The general consensus is that FSR 4 is slightly better than DLSS 3 CNN but having a somewhat larger performance penalty very similar to DLSS 4 Transformer. But in actual gameplay you most likely can't tell the difference in quality, the reviewers arrived to these conclusions by doing extensive pixel peeping analyses.
So basically FSR4 is mostly on par with DLSS 4 performance and quality-wise, but game support is the biggest issue for AMD.

If in raster 9070 XT is very close to RTX 5070 Ti, in RT things change, they are not in the same tier.
But still, getting a 9070 XT means that now you can turn on RT in a lot of games and enjoy it compared to your current GPU.
As for older classics, getting a 50 series means no more 32 bit PhysX, so now AMD and nVidia are on a level playing field. Lolz!
One local store put RTX 5080 for about 1220 euro and i clicked just in case. Turns out they also offer cashback for another store purchase of 100 euro (which i could use for other PC parts and save). So technically i could get RTX 5080 for about 1100 euro post-tax (if we consider i need to spend on other pc parts anyway) or red devil 9070XT for around 900 euro post tax.

It's tempting but im scared of missing rops, burning my PC or driver issues cause i read 50xx series have so many issues. Not gonna lie, jump to TeamRed was also tempting to touch the grass on the other side.
Aww man... I am not going to tell you what you should do with your money, instead I'll tell you what I would do given that I am currently waiting for a reasonably priced 5080 because I missed out on the 4080 Super, if I would be presented with the opportunity of getting a non-FE 5080 at that price there's a good chance I would pull the trigger. Of course I would not be reckless, so I would buy the card from a reputable retailer. Yes I know I would feel bad afterwards for paying that much but I'm feeling really bad right now for missing out on the 4080 Super on BF.

I'm curious if by the time I'm posting this reply that 5080 is long gone from that store.

About the missing ROPs, unfortunately you can't have it tested in advance, but you can ask for a refund if indeed it's a faulty one.
About the connector issues, if the 4080 Super was fine then so is the 5080, a slightly higher power draw isn't going to make the difference between totally safe and fire hazard.

But calming down I would agree that waiting for a little while longer is probably wiser. Prices will come down eventually. The key takeaway is always look at the price ratios between GPUs. The 9070 XT is the first choice because it's more affordable but if the 5070 Ti gets close enough in price go for it.
 
One local store put RTX 5080 for about 1220 euro and i clicked just in case. Turns out they also offer cashback for another store purchase of 100 euro (which i could use for other PC parts and save). So technically i could get RTX 5080 for about 1100 euro post-tax (if we consider i need to spend on other pc parts anyway) or red devil 9070XT for around 900 euro post tax.

It's tempting but im scared of missing rops, burning my PC or driver issues cause i read 50xx series have so many issues. Not gonna lie, jump to TeamRed was also tempting to touch the grass on the other side.
I also have a 3840x1600 monitor and love it. It was the Alienware model, but it is very similar. I used it for 2+ years with a 6800xt without issue for almost all games. I don't think I ever encountered a GPU based hang or major bug. The Alienware version didn't even have Freesync support, and it still played great. I normally used high or ultra settings with the exception of Cyberpunk. I went with a mix of high settings on average. Personally, once I get above 60 FPS, it is hard to tell the difference in "regular" games (i.e., non-competitive shooters). I also played KCD1 on there at max settings, and it played great. My son inherited the card a couple of weeks ago and has no issue running KCD2 at quality framerates with a mix of high and ultra settings.

I was up in the air on the 9070XT vs 5080 as well. Without raytracing, I doubt I could tell the difference in actual play quality. I did get the 5080 as I was playing availability bingo with the models on my list. For me, I would've gladly saved several hundred dollars though. *sighs* luck of the draw...

I will say, my 5080 has been rock solid with none of the issues reported online (ROPs, blackscreens, bluescreens, magma cables, frozen clock speeds, etc.). There is a ton of sensationalist media out there trumping up every failure without claiming anything. They are real issues, but very low volume. It is just the nature of recency bias and confirmation bias that lead us to believe these issues happen left and right. Websites owners & Youtubers need to make money (I don't blame them).

In my mind, you can't go wrong with either card.
 
OP that really depends of the games you play but also of your personal expectation are you happy with 30FPS,60FPS,120FPS,200FPS?I am playing games in 4K on my 6900XT but I am happy with 60FPS and depends of the game if I can't do it native resolution then I will turn on FSR or put some lower settings so in short I am pretty sure that 9070XT will do more than good in most of the games in 4K if you expecting it to play in 60-100FPS native but there always some games that are more demanding that runs like shit even on 5090 so....
 
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