Windows 10 doesn't like newer GPUs

[rtwjunkie]

Card wasnt faulty, guy who gave it to me tested it today on a Win 7 rig saying: Ou card is good, tested it for 3 hours stress test, and after that gaming a little and no issues.

This "guy" "stress test"ing it on an unknown test (to us at least until just now) and then "gaming a little" does not fill me with confidence.

At the very least, it should have replicated everything you were doing during the crashes. Ideally, it should have been an identical system, or even your system tested under W7 to prove or disprove what is right now only a theory you have postulated.

EDIT: I am far from a Windows 10 proponent, but dang, this is straight up tinfoil hat stuff.

 

[Filip Georgievski]

I adviced him tomorrow to get the card to his colleges and have it tested on a W10 machine and see how it went since I am convinced maybe the card has argued with W10 about somethink.
Actualy, the person never used W10 stating it is still not stable, since he works graphical design, and needs a stable system to run on.

 

[Mussels]

As i started this thread let me talk about my experience with it.
Since im an AMD GPU lover, preferably Sapphire GPUs, i did upgrade my 2 6770s with a Vapor R9 280x just about now and it is all good.
But before this i had a heck of a bad few days with a Dual X R9 280x which would not run stable on my rig.
From artifacting to crashing to freezing to BSODing, nothing anybody mentioned helped, until today, when i got my replacement Vapor R9 280X.
Now my rig is fine, Vapor is happy and running well.
Now i've come to realise that neither my psu, nor my old board or parts were the problem.
It was in fact the Windows 10, which did not help me.

Post your own story about this and comment freely.

+1 to Hantol for making this "crappy" PSU that can run a 300w GPU with 2 x 8 pin power plugs.

its just the 280x. they had a flawed design and it seems W10 shows up the corruption problems far faster than previous OS's. I went through a bunch with RMA from gigabyte, not a single one was stable at stock clocks.

 

[R-T-B]

So you got a replacement graphics card due to a likely faulty card and you're blaming Windows 10???

Did I read that right?

I don't mean to drive the issue of that PSU back up again, but I'd blame it WAY before Windows 10. I just don't feel confident being I could never find it's 80plus listing. Maybe I'm just a sucker for commercial certs that are actually payed for though.

I mean, I used Windows 10 with a Saphire Dual-X 7970 and HIS R9 290X for a bit on two builds no issue.

its just the 280x. they had a flawed design and it seems W10 shows up the corruption problems far faster than previous OS's. I went through a bunch with RMA from gigabyte, not a single one was stable at stock clocks.

Maybe the later 2xx series is worse than the old 7970, I guess it's possible, dunno. Just my opinion re the psu.

 

[Mussels]

I don't mean to drive the issue of that PSU back up again, but I'd blame it WAY before Windows 10. I just don't feel confident being I could never find it's 80plus listing.

I mean, I used Windows 10 with a Saphire Dual-X 7970 and HIS R9 290X for a bit on two builds no issue.


Maybe the later 2xx series is worse than the old 7970, I guess it's possible, dunno. Just my opinion re the psu.

i had a 7970 and at least 5 280x's - the 7970 was stable and the 280x's were all crap. 280x's had some change that bit them in the ass on later drivers/OS's/higher loads (DX11 games showed it fastest)

 

[Kanan]

But 280X is supposed to be the "matured" version of the 7970, with a bit lower clocks and lot less consumption vs. 7970 GHz. Strange. I think it was a software problem, the 280X Dual-X could very well work in another Win 10 system, just not his, because he has something fishy in his system that doesn't work well with the card - notice: not saying it is necessarily Win 10.
@OP: did you do a reinstall of Win 10 on your system? If not I'm probably right.

 

[Ithanul]

But 280X is supposed to be the "matured" version of the 7970, with a bit lower clocks and lot less consumption vs. 7970 GHz. Strange. I think it was a software problem, the 280X Dual-X could very well work in another Win 10 system, just not his, because he has something fishy in his system that doesn't work well with the card - notice: not saying it is necessarily Win 10.
@OP: did you do a reinstall of Win 10 on your system? If not I'm probably right.

Yeah, that the major issue with computers. A different config can work perfectly fine. While another will throw a fit about something.

I heard people have no problem with one config, while another will throw blue screens all over the place.
Kind of the reason the term silicon lottery exist. Heck, original had the 1090T and 960 on a different mobo. Card would not go over 1500MHz. Smacked it on a 990FX board. 960 now rocking at 1540MHz. Hardware can be weird at times.

 

[trog100]

"Hardware can be weird at times"

very true i just bought a new logiteck G700s mouse.. i cant get the logiteck gaming software to run on my win 10 system.. it thinks "something" is missing.. i have tried many ways and it just dosnt work.. i could simply blame win 10.. in fact i did.. he he

but the software works perfectly on another (far more basic) win 10 system i have.. so i could just blame my own main system hardware.. but if i boot into win 10 using a usb stick i have the bloody software works perfectly on that with the same hardware..

"Hardware can be weird at times" which allows for many a who or what to blame thread on TPU and similar places..

my logiteck gaming software dosnt like my main win 10 install.. googling provides many a similar problem and many a "fix".. none of them work for me and my logiteck gaming software which in theory should have no problems working with win 10..

i ended up downloading and installing 6 gigs of extra junk trying to fix that "something is missing" problem the logiteck software was having.. i gave up and rolled back to an earlier system image and now live without the f-cking logiteck software.. i want to program the bloody mouse i can always plug it into a win 10 install it does work with.. he he

off topic but its all too easy to jump to wrong conclusions.. which i recon is the real topic anyways..

trog

 

[Frick]

The above posts highlights why Windows is such an excellent system and why they are pushing so hard for Win10.

 

[GreiverBlade]

+1 to Hantol for making this "crappy" PSU that can run a 300w GPU with 2 x 8 pin power plugs.

i have to ....

1st remove the "" on "crappy" because it's not a "", but a true fact.
2nd a 280X is not a 300W GPU, you are falling in the case of "omigod AMDz GepeU are powarh ungray" well ok 250w is not a low consumption but still it's in the norm of what even a 600w powersupply could hold (aka not your's ... it's even under )
3rd 280X is not new it's a updated 7970 previous to the 380X gen
4th you are blaming the wrong culprit since the beginning, 1st the card now the OS ? seriously are you so in love with Hantol that you think they are the best PSU maker in the world?


getting a brand PSU doesn't mean paying a lot for it... a good bronze is always better than a fake silver (which your PSU is probably ... i laughed hard when i saw the 80+ silver label on the link you posted in the previous thread. )
i.e.: i paid 109chf for my M12II 750 Evo Bronze (a bronze that is closer to the silver efficiency and that do not lie about total power available, and modular also ... ) or 65chf for my Fractal Design Integra R2 650W

see ... (ok that's the 750 but even the 650 would be able to power your whole rig as i explained already in the other thread)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Fractal_Design/Integra_R2_750W/11.html
not even expensive and way more reliable than your Hantol.
and that 650w powered a FX-6300 @ 4.0ghz + a R9 290 1090/1380 without any issues

another example:
i ran a Xeon E3-1275V2 @ 3.7ghz + a SLI of GTX 580 Matrix Platinum @ 900/1050 on a InWin Commander III Desert Fox 700w (80+ gold this time, and not even pricier than my actual 750w, about the same price) without any issues

i suspect i am talking to the void ... but i had to, "Don Quixot" syndrome, anyone?

 

[NdMk2o1o]

So yea, it's definitely Windows fault and nothing to do with Logitech for not releasing a proper working driver/program that is compatible with Win10. Gotcha

 

[Mussels]

So yea, it's definitely Windows fault and nothing to do with Logitech for not releasing a proper working driver/program that is compatible with Win10. Gotcha

well its neither since i've got a g700 and g700s, and the mice + software work great on numerous win10 systems here. He's just got some problem unique to his one system.

 

[rtwjunkie]

So yea, it's definitely Windows fault and nothing to do with Logitech for not releasing a proper working driver/program that is compatible with Win10. Gotcha

I have a W10 Logitech Gaming Software that works perfectly, so it's already been released. It's probably something else interfering.

 

[Jetster]

I don't run the software but I'll check later if it works

 

[Mussels]

I don't run the software but I'll check later if it works

no need

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I have a W10 Logitech Gaming Software that works perfectly, so it's already been released. It's probably something else interfering.

well its neither since i've got a g700 and g700s, and the mice + software work great on numerous win10 systems here. He's just got some problem unique to his one system.

My thoughts exactly and theres a host of variables, not necessarily just to it being down to Windows 10. I have issues with Win 10 myself, not any more so than any other major Windows release in it's early stages tbh and nothing to make me want to go back to 7... not yet anyway

 

[trog100]

my own "individual win 10 system" logiteck gaming software error message..

i have much googled and much downloaded stuff my googleing says might help the problem.. i cant get the stuff to work whatever i do on my main win 10 install..

by plugging in and booting from a couple of win 10 on a stick installs i have it works okay.. and it works on an old dell win 10 machine i have but not on my main machine win 10 install.. it seems to install okay but dosnt work.. google has many answers but none of them work for me.. he he

i dont have problems with anything else not workiing.. just the logiteck gaming software.. and i have tried hard to get the bloody stuff to work.. honest..

googleing did seem to suggest something was missing.. but 6 gigs of downloading later i gave up on that one and rolled the system back to where it was before adding the 6 gigs of stuff that still didnt make it work... he he

trog

 

[Mussels]

try this thread on the logi forums, they have links to an older version for people with problems

https://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logi...re-not-working-Windows-10/td-p/1428893/page/2

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Hehe. Nice one, still....
Lets up the game shall we?
Lets say, i did instal over 20 different drivers not to mention cd drivers, trying it on my rig, plus same to a friend's rig having Windows 10.

You cant say "well lets say i did this." Changes nothing. Just stop. Youre making yourself look bad.

 

[Solaris17]

My 290x works fine.

 

[GhostRyder]

Windows 10 does not just pick a GPU and decide it does not like it. It has to do with a multitude of things any of which could cause a difference OS to OS. It could use the GPU a bit more at certain points which could cause a problem but that's about it. Its like when a GPU or CPU can pass one or multiple stress tests but crashes in another one, still means its unstable even if it works in most instances.

 

[Filip Georgievski]

So to conclude all this:
W10 is not compatible with some pieces of hatdware around the world.

 

[Arre_Jay]

So to conclude all this:
W10 is not compatible with some pieces of hatdware around the world.

The hardware in not compatible with windows 10.

If I design a piece of hardware that doesn't run on windows 10. Would you blame windows 10 or my hardware? maybe both?

 

[Batou1986]

Glad to see you took my advice and replaced the 280X to solve the problem.

 

[alucasa]

So to conclude all this:
W10 is not compatible with some pieces of hatdware around the world.

Well, it applies to all Operating System. If a hardware's driver doesn't support a certain OS, it ain't going to run great if at all.

Try Unix for a while and come back and complain.