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I installed 22H2 three days ago and have nothing but problems.
constant crashes, bugs, weird behaviour...
for example:
Cinebench R23 looks like it's running at 8K with 100% scaling (everything is extremely tiny) and it is completely unfunctional... every button does nothing, it does not start and just crashes with "file format error" even after downloading it again from their website.
R20 works fine.
every 2-3rd boot is extremely slow and Windows runs in ~5 FPS and takes minutes to just open a folder until restart.
File Copy to my external Samsung 870 Evo takes almost twice as long as before (write performance tanks non stop)
VLC Player is broken and crashes very often.
the new task manager shows an empty window with zero programs running.
New Explorer with the new tab system crashes randomly when opening new tabs.
the whole PC crashes randomly in games, at idle, under load (or freezes with sound still running)
cursor gets stuck for 3-4 seconds.
Second Monitor is "still there" even after using Windows + P to only use my main monitor.
my printer does not work anymore.

no overclocks, everything is stable (1000% memtest, y-cruncher, sfc/dism no errors, SMART Values for both drives are perfect.)
my brothers work laptop got the 22H2 Update today and he has similar problems where his VPN from his job does not even launch anymore and bitlocker was broken and had to be restored.

i am currently installing Windows 10 again. this was the second time since W11 released that an update completely broke everything.
 
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I thought it was just me having Gremlins. I have been beside myself with the myriad of issues I have been having. I even updated my Video driver yesterday and had a black screen during install, that forced me to use the power button to shutdown. Only to get into the desktop with Adrenline fully configured with no need to reset my settings (I have never seen that with AMD drivers lately).
 
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I have similar hardware as you for my X3D (B550 Unify, 6800 XT) and it's been trouble free as well as on X670/7700x/6900XT.

Windows is so strange how there's such a variance in issues across what seems like almost identical setups. :(
 
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Mine works fine

Same for me no weird issue I am even running mixed memory on 3000MT/s X.M.P. on 2 different kits.

I even have the same CPU as @GerKNG a AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D.

@Solaris17 nice maskine you got really :eek:

I have similar hardware as you for my X3D (B550 Unify, 6800 XT) and it's been trouble free as well as on X670/7700x/6900XT.

Windows is so strange how there's such a variance in issues across what seems like almost identical setups. :(

That's because not 2 simular hardware are the same, seen that a lot even with laptops.
 
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Microsoft policy for ages is for users to do the QA... You're crazy to use new code not in the wild before. Problems.

LTSC and Windows Server are for if you actually want a stable system.
 
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I installed 22H2 three days ago and have nothing but problems.
constant crashes, bugs, weird behaviour...
for example:
Cinebench R23 looks like it's running at 8K with 100% scaling (everything is extremely tiny) and it is completely unfunctional... every button does nothing, it does not start and just crashes with "file format error" even after downloading it again from their website.
R20 works fine.
every 2-3rd boot is extremely slow and Windows runs in ~5 FPS and takes minutes to just open a folder until restart.
File Copy to my external Samsung 870 Evo takes almost twice as long as before (write performance tanks non stop)
VLC Player is broken and crashes very often.
the new task manager shows an empty window with zero programs running.
New Explorer with the new tab system crashes randomly when opening new tabs.
the whole PC crashes randomly in games, at idle, under load (or freezes with sound still running)
cursor gets stuck for 3-4 seconds.
Second Monitor is "still there" even after using Windows + P to only use my main monitor.
my printer does not work anymore.

no overclocks, everything is stable (1000% memtest, y-cruncher, sfc/dism no errors)
my brothers work laptop got the 22H2 Update today and he has similar problems where his VPN from his job does not even launch anymore and bitlocker was broken and had to be restored.

i am currently installing Windows 10 again. this was the second time since W11 released that an update completely broke everything.
Clean install from USB will help you. VPN client update is usually needed after OS upgrade, see VPN client support site. Before upgrade suspend or disable Bitlocker.
 
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takes minutes to just open a folder until restart.

Next time can you take a look at memory usage with Task Manager before you restart?
 
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His VPN software is up to date.
It just crashes on startup.
And a clean install because of a forced update should never be an option.


Next time can you take a look at memory usage with Task Manager before you restart?
~6GB
 
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So, it's not a memory leak
 
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On my 775 system it's A OK and with my HP x360 15 laptop. Heck on my test system which has AMD AM3 with 8GB RAM runs fine. Probably just the OP hardware going crazy (oh no guy's he's loading WiN11 let's make him be like WTH)
 
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Sounds pretty tame to the horrific forced updates of Windows 10 where Windows actually broke itself and caused a bunch of issues for me. The early days of Windows 10 forced updates actually broke Windows so much the only way to fix it was to re-install.

Though, I did find it entertainingly maddening that one update for 10 finished and restarted, things appeared normal. The desktop came up and I started getting off the wall permission issues that made zero sense since I had none setup and when trying to use programs I had installed prior to the update I'd get constant missing .dll messages.....then finally Windows just BSODs on me and I can't even boot into safe mode to do a system restore.
 

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I installed 22H2 three days ago and have nothing but problems.
constant crashes, bugs, weird behaviour...
for example:
Cinebench R23 looks like it's running at 8K with 100% scaling (everything is extremely tiny) and it is completely unfunctional... every button does nothing, it does not start and just crashes with "file format error" even after downloading it again from their website.
R20 works fine.
every 2-3rd boot is extremely slow and Windows runs in ~5 FPS and takes minutes to just open a folder until restart.
File Copy to my external Samsung 870 Evo takes almost twice as long as before (write performance tanks non stop)
VLC Player is broken and crashes very often.
the new task manager shows an empty window with zero programs running.
New Explorer with the new tab system crashes randomly when opening new tabs.
the whole PC crashes randomly in games, at idle, under load (or freezes with sound still running)
cursor gets stuck for 3-4 seconds.
Second Monitor is "still there" even after using Windows + P to only use my main monitor.
my printer does not work anymore.

no overclocks, everything is stable (1000% memtest, y-cruncher, sfc/dism no errors)
my brothers work laptop got the 22H2 Update today and he has similar problems where his VPN from his job does not even launch anymore and bitlocker was broken and had to be restored.

i am currently installing Windows 10 again. this was the second time since W11 released that an update completely broke everything.

I agree, 22H2 is definitely a little weird. Last major Windows 11 version was pretty solid.

This one seems to have a "slow period" after cold boots where it takes longer to open applications than usual. Start menu losing half of its icons (reverts to the generic application icon), window animations oddly run in low framerate half the time.

Windows keeps fucking with my multi monitor wallpapers as well. Switching them, duplicating them, sometimes my monitor 2 (vertical) wallpaper thinks the monitor is landscape and Windows also forgets that it's there in display settings (but it clearly works otherwise)

Worst one has been that I've been forced to shutdown instead of sleep - more than half the time resuming from sleep will go straight to a BSOD at login screen with 0x00021a.

I'm due for a clean install today anyway, we'll see if anything changes. The windowed VRR is a game changer for me though, so I can't just up and use something else.
 
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That's because not 2 simular hardware are the same, seen that a lot even with laptops.

It think it also has to do with how the individual uses different features in different ways. (see below)

I agree, 22H2 is definitely a little weird. Last major Windows 11 version was pretty solid.

This one seems to have a "slow period" after cold boots where it takes longer to open applications than usual. Start menu losing half of its icons (reverts to the generic application icon), window animations oddly run in low framerate half the time.

Windows keeps fucking with my multi monitor wallpapers as well. Switching them, duplicating them, sometimes my monitor 2 (vertical) wallpaper thinks the monitor is landscape and Windows also forgets that it's there in display settings (but it clearly works otherwise)

Worst one has been that I've been forced to shutdown instead of sleep - more than half the time resuming from sleep will go straight to a BSOD at login screen with 0x00021a.

I'm due for a clean install today anyway, we'll see if anything changes. The windowed VRR is a game changer for me though, so I can't just up and use something else.

I guess this explains why I haven't seen some of the issues - I always turn of animations and transparency and I disable sleep and hibernation as well. Single monitor also.

I agree about the new features in 22H2 - the Auto HDR and the windowed VRR made me stay with it (I still get some annoying flicker with FreeSync in some games/game menus). Part of the reason I changed from Alder Lake is I was planning on going back to Win 10. Those two features alone make it worth staying with 11 for me.

I hope the fresh install resolves some/all of those. Nothing more frustrating than the basics not working.
 
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I agree about the new features in 22H2 - the Auto HDR and the windowed VRR made me stay with it (I still get some annoying flicker with FreeSync in some games/game menus). Part of the reason I changed from Alder Lake is I was planning on going back to Win 10. Those two features alone make it worth staying with 11 for me.

I hope the fresh install resolves some/all of those. Nothing more frustrating than the basics not working.
Maybe that is the issue. I don't need Windows to give me VRR when my Monitor supports it natively. Thsi could be why the Division 2 looks dark when I play.
 

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Maybe that is the issue. I don't need Windows to give me VRR when my Monitor supports it natively. Thsi could be why the Division 2 looks dark when I play.

Windows doesn't "give" VRR.........the new 22H2 feature is windowed mode optimizations so regular fullscreen G-sync can work in games where the game engine has no true fullscreen mode.

The only other fixes are to force -window-mode fullscreen but that breaks alt-tab sometimes and causes freezes, or set Windowed G-sync which causes chaos in a lot of applications where it shouldn't be running (eg. Photoshop) and high frequency flicker in games.

22H2 eliminates the VRR flickering that both those workarounds suffer from.
 
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Windows doesn't "give" VRR.........the new 22H2 feature is windowed mode optimizations so regular fullscreen G-sync can work in games where the game engine has no true fullscreen mode.

The only other fixes are to force -window-mode fullscreen but that breaks alt-tab sometimes and causes freezes, or set Windowed G-sync which causes chaos in a lot of applications where it shouldn't be running (eg. Photoshop) and high frequency flicker in games.
Maybe that is the issue. I don't need Windows to give me VRR when my Monitor supports it natively. Thsi could be why the Division 2 looks dark when I play.

Yep - Same with FreeSync. The settings are here:

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i checked everything i've listed in my fresh W10 installation and everything works.
 
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Well, guess the list is getting longer & longer. :laugh: If you don't wanna face the issues of a beta tester, just stick with Win10. Solved.


This one isn't even on the official ist: Windows 11 22H2: Task Manager blocks ‘Safely Remove Hardware’
But this one is really takes the cake. Can't login after updating, LMAO!


If you really love to gamble around with Win11, delay the updates in the settings for up to 35 days (works only on the "Pro" version). Most issues will be patched out within a month.

 
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Do I see more people with AMD systems commenting in this thread?..
 
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Do I see more people with AMD systems commenting in this thread?..

Well, statistically there's probably more AMD users, so more posts. If I'm reading between the lines on what I think you mean, there's no reason to do that.

as usual.

Also, just to clarify, my post was in no way meant to say 'mine works, there is no problem'. Those types of posts are completely unnecessary and beyond frustrating. Apologies @GerKNG if it appeared that way.
 
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Well, statistically there's probably more AMD users, so more posts. If I'm reading between the lines on what I think you mean, there's no reason to do that.
I didn't mean it in some negative way, just noticed that's all....
 
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22H2 seemed to require a lot of work to bang into shape. Cold boots definitely got quicker by the end of that long day.

Browsers and other programs I expect regular updates for seem to be working fine by now. I might attribute some of this to running latest BIOS
 
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Hi,
I did install 11's 22h2 but that's about all I did with it
11 is on a separate ssd so I just ejected and put 10 back in and have not installed 10's 22h2 update no need it's still test mode release like most update previews are so not near ready for use
So enjoy beta testing it free for MS :laugh:
 
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