I will reach back to you once It happens again, thank you for your help really! In the meantime, I want to tell you something about LatencyMon, I get this weird spikes on DPC calls with the driver "ACPI.sys" with time 1000 ns (1ms) but I really need to wait for them to happen, in a way like the stutters, in an entire hour of testing nothing will happen, and a spike appear rarely (although It isn't a huge spike). Playing anything with LatencyMon running makes some stutter from time to time, I don't know if this is related tho, I never paid too much attention because I thought It was a tool to check audio stability.
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Windows 11 causing random stutters / frame-pacing / frame-time issues?
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Do you have any regular HDDs on your system? It’s normal to experience some spikes from time to time depending on what you’re doing, and this can happen when your HDD turns off to save power. You can try setting 'Turn off hard disk after' to 0 in Power settings.
SSDs/HDDs could also cause stutters if they are going bad.
No I have only M2 SSD, I actually swapped SSD, both machines got the same SSD model until last month, and It was only componente shared, unfortunately It wasn't the SSD.
I also changed mobo (from X670 Gaming Plus Wifi MSI to B650 ASUS ROG Gaming-A Plus Wifi) and nothing changed. Reason I changed Is the old mobo was stuck on reboot, and for some reason display port was broken. For the few 2 weeks I had that mobo I still had this random stutter (the same as the other machine).
I also changed mobo (from X670 Gaming Plus Wifi MSI to B650 ASUS ROG Gaming-A Plus Wifi) and nothing changed. Reason I changed Is the old mobo was stuck on reboot, and for some reason display port was broken. For the few 2 weeks I had that mobo I still had this random stutter (the same as the other machine).
Update: I have been testing for a long time, I have noticed that after some time there is performance degradation over a long period of time if Nvidia Overlay Is up and running all of the time, degradation starts around 7 hours of performance overlay running, altering 99th percentile along the way. I have also noticed that running some games at random before doing the actual test will make stutters more frequent than before. I got so fed up that I decided to go back to Windows 10 22H2. Sorry for not trying to post benchmark informations, if It can help, temps for both GPU and CPU were under 50 degrees in FFXIV character creation. If I get the issues on Windows 10 22H2 I will post back to figure better things out: thank you for your help izy, but I got so fed up I would rather use Windows 10 22H2 at the moment IF It works better than Windows 11, otherwise I'm going back to 24H2. Seriously I have never had so many random issues with a computer my entire life, I'm really hoping that every issue I'm facing Is software related because I'm not willing to swap more components than I have already done.
Please keep me posted. Windows 10 22h2 should fix your issues.
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| System Name | TheDeeGee's PC |
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| Processor | Intel Core i7-11700 |
| Motherboard | ASRock Z590 Steel Legend |
| Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S |
| Memory | Crucial Ballistix 3200/C16 32GB |
| Video Card(s) | Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti 12GB |
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| Display(s) | EIZO CX240 |
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| Audio Device(s) | Creative Sound Blaster ZXR / AKG K601 Headphones |
| Power Supply | Seasonic PRIME Fanless TX-700 |
| Mouse | Logitech G500S |
| Keyboard | Keychron Q6 |
| Software | Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit |
| Benchmark Scores | None, as long as my games runs smooth. |
I moved to Windows 11 earlier this (clean 24H2 Media Creation Tool install) year and i'm about to create my Windows 10 install media again.
I've got this problem with Fortnite in particular where it locks itself to 59 FPS at random moments, needing an Alt+Tab to fix it, but the issue comes back eventually. I've tried a lot of things already, but my list of "To Try" is reaching it's end.
Things i tried so far that didn't help:
I've got this problem with Fortnite in particular where it locks itself to 59 FPS at random moments, needing an Alt+Tab to fix it, but the issue comes back eventually. I've tried a lot of things already, but my list of "To Try" is reaching it's end.
Things i tried so far that didn't help:
- Disable browser hardware accelerarion.
- Disable HAGS.
- Disable Gaming Mode.
- Disable Fullscreen optimizations.
- Run as admin.
- Disable framerate limiter.
- Force V-Sync in game vs Control Panel.
- Run game in Maximum Performance mode.
- Disable ingame idle timers.
- Set Processor scheduling to Background services.
- Set Windows Powerplan to maximum performance.
- Disable Resizable BAR.
- Disable all C-States for the CPU (totally not a fan).
No, it's still ass. I have no clue really. I have tested also another pair of RAM sticks (which would make a grand total of 3 pairs). There is something wrong but I can't figure It out. I don't know if It Is a hardware issue, AM5 issue, or RTX 4000 issue. Since I'm having other unrelated issues with the GPU I will see if I can get a RMA and get the RTX 5070 when It launches.
EDIT: I don't know if It helps, but I have noticed that seems like frametimes get worse with opening and closing 3D applications over time. For instance, if I let run the FFXIV character creation immediately after booting, things go pretty smoothly over hours. If I spend like 20 minutes opening and closing games, and THEN run the character creation of FFXIV, things go worse. It's like the outcome of a test Is dependentbof what I have done in the past, tho I have done nothing that has a direct impact on the actual test.
EDIT: I don't know if It helps, but I have noticed that seems like frametimes get worse with opening and closing 3D applications over time. For instance, if I let run the FFXIV character creation immediately after booting, things go pretty smoothly over hours. If I spend like 20 minutes opening and closing games, and THEN run the character creation of FFXIV, things go worse. It's like the outcome of a test Is dependentbof what I have done in the past, tho I have done nothing that has a direct impact on the actual test.
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So it happens also on Windows 10 22h2?
Yeah, I'm sorry grvn we've got different issues.
I was trying stuff with Linux, but It doesn't make much sense, I can't test the same way, and it's really not a practical solution.
Btw for whiever Is interested, updating/reinstalling video drivers while having this performance degradation solves the issue, It feels like there Is some sort of "junk" building up over time when opening and closing stuff in a single session, and then getting flushed away the moment you reboot/update drivers.
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No idea about Win10 but W11 that registry entry doesn't disable MPO anymore, and since NVCleanstall uses that same entry using it doesn't work either.
Update: I have no idea why the following worked, I went back to Windows 11 and It looks like that 99th won't drop anymore if I disable ReBAR and set Maximum Perfomance Profile from Nvidia. Coming back to Windows 11 new issues arised such as drops in 99th percentile (not noticeable compared to the original) if Steam is in the background, the game doesn't even have to be from Steam, could be another application and Will still have these unnoticeable microstutters. And for some reason, (I have experienced this only on the FFXIV Benchmark tool at the moment) I will get the same stutter in the first 3 minutes of opening up the character selection tool, didn't have this issue before, still I'm not counting this one since at the very least It doesn't look important. Either way I think I have at least found a workaround to these problems, good enough I guess, I'm able to play at a nice 60 FPS without random drops caused by unreasonable things, 120 FPS sometimes isn't perfect but if those are unnoticeable good enough too.
EDIT: I forgot to mention this odd thing, given a scenario I don't have Steam opened and Maximum Performance in NCP set, I am 100% sure if I run a test at 120 FPS things go smooth as butter as much time as you want, meanwhile It will stutter at 60. I think It has to do with the GPU and VRAM clock Speed not being maxed out? I don't think It makes a lot of sense being completely random, but still.
EDIT: I forgot to mention this odd thing, given a scenario I don't have Steam opened and Maximum Performance in NCP set, I am 100% sure if I run a test at 120 FPS things go smooth as butter as much time as you want, meanwhile It will stutter at 60. I think It has to do with the GPU and VRAM clock Speed not being maxed out? I don't think It makes a lot of sense being completely random, but still.
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