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Windows 11 Finally Overtakes Windows 10 as the Most Dominant Operating System

Flyordie said:
Threadripper 2950X with 32GB of RAM with a Vega64 XTX and I cant bump to Windows 11 because they removed the Zen 1+ from the official compatibility list.
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There are no security compromises involved with using bypasses to install 11 on that hardware, regardless of what microsoft ignorantly claims. So install, enjoy.
 
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Flyordie said:
My biggest thing is the fact they dumped support for so much older hardware for Windows 11.


I'm running-

Threadripper 2950X with 32GB of RAM with a Vega64 XTX and I cant bump to Windows 11 because they removed the Zen 1+ from the official compatibility list.
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It doesn’t matter, their support list is a meme and mostly aimed at system integrators. Unless your hardware LITERALLY cannot run Win 11 - like is the case with absolutely ancient CPUs lacking certain instructions - you absolutely can and free to upgrade to 11.
 
hey, using Windows 10 Pro 19045.5965 here and i'm now having severe doubts about how snappy and repsonsive it really is.

just today i've managed to restart my PC thrice, all because in the previous two times i tried to use it today (each one requiring a full reboot), it couldn't even recognize my Wi-Fi USB thing, and second time i booted it it couldn't even recognize my USB keyboard anymore. so i restarted my PC for the third time, and what did i get for all that trouble, you ask?

well, this time, it did recognize a wireless USB Wi-Fi adapter, and it did recognize a USB keyboard of all things, but was it snappy and responsive? oh god no.

boot-up times here took about basically 20 minutes here, and from there on out, i'd get occasional hiccups and freezes every. single. time.

Windows Explorer - a crucial process app that basically runs for the lifetime of your Windows 10 session - simply cannot resist getting a single momentary freeze that takes down all other apps and even KB+M responsiveness with it. what the hell.
 
Flyordie said:
Threadripper 2950X with 32GB of RAM with a Vega64 XTX and I cant bump to Windows 11 because they removed the Zen 1+ from the official compatibility list.
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It is insane to me that any of this is somehow a gacha. Did Microsoft pull the ladder again?
Here are some of my systems:
Athlon 2650e | 2GB DDR2 | Flareon 10GbE: Runs Windows Server 2016. Windows 11 untested. Likely ladder-pulled over missing CPU instructions.
Phenom II X4 955 | 8GB DDR3: Retired. Didn't like Windows 10 and I can assume 11 is just as unstable.
Atom x7-Z8700 | 4GB DDR3: A Surface 3 refurb (barely) running Windows 10. Can (barely) run Windows 11. I keep it uncluttered.
FX-8370 | 16GB DDR3 | Quadro P620 2GB: Runs Windows Server 2016. Was able to run Windows 11 at launch. Did something change that?
Ryzen 5 3600 | 64GB DDR4 | RX580 | SolarFlare 10GbE: Runs Windows 10 (22H2). Comaptible with Windows 11.

A single core system from 2009 getting ladder pulled, I understand. Same with any quad core older than 2015.
My 8-core FX is a 2014 product and is still a huge magical contender in this world. When it dies? Nobody knows.
My 3600 is a 3rd gen Ryzen product from 2019 and Win11 compatible but has a greater purpose than Microslop.
Someone explain to me how a 16c/32t HEDT part a year older than my Ryzen isn't whitelisted by Redmond wizards.
Windows 11 was a product of the coof period. Was the brain damage so infectious it continues to reach into big 2025?
Onasi said:
It doesn’t matter, their support list is a meme and mostly aimed at system integrators.
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This has been my main takeaway from all of this noise until the instruction gatekeeping with POPCNT started.
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Soooooo yeah. The Athlon is definitely not going to be running this one at all.
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Ryzen is much more up to the task.
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That's a decade's worth of difference on AMD's side only. You are not going to have such a catastrophic disparity from a Threadripper.
 
ymdhis said:
Does Win11 still take seconds to open up the context menu if you right click on the desktop? My Win98SE rig running a 450 MHz K6-2 can outperform that.
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Never seen that issue and I've been using 11 from day one. As for stability, I've never had a BSOD on 11 so far with multiple builds, all AM4 or AM5 and my systems run 24/7.

While 11 has had some stupid bugs that usually got fixed on the next weekly update, overall it's been a rock solid OS for me.
 
lexluthermiester said:
There are no security compromises involved with using bypasses to install 11 on that hardware, regardless of what microsoft ignorantly claims. So install, enjoy.
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I've tried. The upgrade tool said my CPU wasn't supported. It used to be. Its why I bumped to the 2950X but I guess in the year since I had last looked at the support list- they removed the 12nm Ryzen+ processors. Little irritating. Not going to waste my time and side-loading. If MS wants people to keep using older hardware, thats on them. The 2950X supports everything Windows 11 requires. Even my GPU does. Vega64 XTX.
 
Low quality post by zmeul
a portion of the people that left W10 haven't switched to W11, but went GNU LINUX
both in the private/gaming and in business & public sector, people are fed with MicroSoft
 
Means nothing but the amount the PCs with preloaded windows 11
 
Tomorrow said:
At what exactly? Based on tests i've seen the difference is within a few percentage points. Nothing most people would notice.
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I thoroughly tested this, windows 10 is up to 20% faster on some games compared to win 11 24h3.

I have some videos on my channel comparing the two. Its not on every game btw, but it does happen.
 
I don't mind win 11, use it on my desktop, and although I find it annoying that it takes more steps than 10 to get up and running how I like (deactivating all the stuff I don't need and reverting a few changes I don't like), it does have a more modern feel. And it doesn't seem slower to me, though it could be just below the threshold of noticeability.

Keep in mind I'm not using the virtualized security settings, perhaps that whole thing has helped spread the narrative that its slower, at least with games anyway. Although I'm not denying that it may be a bit slower. I believe I recall looking at some graphs a while ago with virtualization off, where 11 was getting like 1 fps less in some games. Though idk what the current situation is. I'm not even on 24h2 yet.

I use 10 on my laptop currently, though I've got 11 on there before more out of curiosity than anything ( had an unsupported cpu), reinstalled 10 because of a dead ssd and wanted it back up and running as soon as possible.

But anyway, I think this article.... could have been worded better. Almost seems... SEO optimized. Gamers come to 11 for the AI tools eh? I'm skeptical of that.

I think the biggest factors are probably.... the security updates, and preinstallation on new computers.
 
Watch and wait, as soon as Win11 hits 70-80% penetration, boom Windows 12 is here.
 
I'm beginning to detest Windows it's a terrible experience out of the box. I shouldn't have to create a custom windows install to stop it sucking hard.

The take what we give you and like it approach is just pure unbridled greed. An OS is meant to be a transparent gateway that allows the user to do what they want. How did a large company loose sight of this especially considering windows isn't even close to being Microsoft's cash cow these day's is upping that 12% really that important.
 
matar said:
I tried windows 11 24h2 a few days ago i hope i am not included in that chart i did not like it i at all i even tried 21h2 since that had some windows 10 feel still i went back after 1 day to windows 10 its mush faster and more features so staying on windows 10. SO please count me out from the chart Microsoft if you included my windows 11 install lol.
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Heh, same here. Tried it for literally an hour or two, went back to 10 Pro.
 
I will be part of the percentage leaving W10 but I'm actually testing PopOS on my old laptop to see if I will (probably) loose some software and see if it will bother me or not. Since I've try to always use open source software for some years, I think it will be a non-issue. Make sure to use alternativeto.net guys, such a great website.
 
Come on Microsoft where is windows 12? Like it was suppose to be revealed last year…
 
I survived 24H2 with no issues, it actually made the PC snappier, but a simple update in May made my main printer disappear. Fixed only after rolling back to the date before the update. No issues at all with many years on W7 pro and (fewer) years on W10.

P.S. An old refurbished PC at home on W10 refused to work properly with adobe reader, works now with some PDF X from microsoft store. I don't know if it's W10, the CPU (2nd gen i3) or something else, for now it's fine.
 
I finally bit the bullet and upgraded to Windows 11 a few months ago for WSL host networking and improved HyperV featureset.

The only Gamer^tm reason to upgrade windows would be a new DirectX version.

I don't see AI being a reason until the LLM with speech and voice recognition can look up wikis and anwers faster and more accurately than a Gamer^tm without impacting performance. Not for a few more years and node improvements. By which point games will start using NPUs more, bringing us back to Windows 16 being slower that W15 due to the LLM competing for the NPU.

EDIT: No performance issues, I think W11 is quite decent. However, I have recent hardware so one would hope that was the case.
 
razaron said:
I finally bit the bullet and upgraded to Windows 11 a few months ago for WSL host networking and improved HyperV featureset.

The only Gamer^tm reason to upgrade windows would be a new DirectX version.

I don't see AI being a reason until the LLM with speech and voice recognition can look up wikis and anwers faster and more accurately than a Gamer^tm without impacting performance. Not for a few more years and node improvements. By which point games will start using NPUs more, bringing us back to Windows 16 being slower that W15 due to the LLM competing for the NPU.

EDIT: No performance issues, I think W11 is quite decent. However, I have recent hardware so one would hope that was the case.
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Id say these days DirectStorage is more apparent to end users than DirectX version. Besides DX12 has been around for a while now and updated with new features, but most developers dont even use these features. DirectStorage at least provides some tangible benefit in Win11 vs Win10.
There's also improvements to AutoHDR vs Win10 and a new WGC graphics model (24H2) has improvements over older DXGI.
 
What are limitations of the Windows 10 LTSC if compare to Windows 10 Pro ?

Considering to switch to LTSC as Windows 11 Pro is not good enough.
 
Krit said:
What are limitations of the Windows 10 LTSC if compare to Windows 10 Pro ?

Considering to switch to LTSC as Windows 11 Pro is not good enough.
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Practical limitations, none.

Store or store apps not installed by default, but can be manually installed.
Some defaults are different such as no onedrive by default.

The main difference is licensing and support duration.

There is actually less limitations.

Some examples, can set telemetry to a lower level, can use applocker.
 
When new OS needs years to overtake old one and it's still not because it's so good but because Microsoft has to artificially push it by killing off the old version and imposing stupid hardware requirements. I have a laptop that used to run Windows 11, but can't anymore without hacking the stupid thing to bits to bypass the requirements. I was so tired of it I just installed Linux on that system and ended up loving it so much I installed it on other one too that can run latest Windows 11, but I decided to just use Linux instead. Good job Microsoft.

On Mastodon and Lemmy, there are ongoing campaigns to move people from Windows 10 to some flavor of Linux. Instead of throwing away a perfectly good and still capable system, I can totally see someone use KDE flavor of Linux. That system that can't run Windows 11 anymore now has Linux and that system is mostly used by my mom now. She doesn't even care I have flipped between GNOME and KDE several times as I was testing distros. She just knows she has to open browser with orange icon of a fox and that's that. It doesn't matter if it's Windows or Linux or which GUI it's using. I bet 3/4 of people have equally demanding requirements and don't actually need Windows 11 and especially don't need to buy new system if it can't be installed without hacks.

I just wish Linux distros had option for fully automatic updating, at least of minor updates if major version ones aren't recommended. It's so stupid to maintain distros if you're not sitting around and poking them the entire time...
 
chrcoluk said:
Store or store apps not installed by default, but can be manually installed.
Some defaults are different such as no onedrive by default.
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That's a big plus actually.
 
Krit said:
That's a big plus actually.
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I agree.

On pro a lot of apps are preinstalled on the storage, even if the user thinks they not installed, in addition uninstalling doesnt remove from storage, it just removes from the desktop and start menu. (A bit like how on android you can disable system apps, but not uninstall them).

Apps can also be installed without the store. e.g. I have the 8bitdo controller app installed using the winget package manager, and nvidia control panel. You only need the store for 'paid' store apps.
 
Wow that win7 holdout!!!

Nice
 
Every new shipped computer for business that comes with windows comes with windows 11.
Every retired 3 years or 5 years cycle computer coming from an amortization plan goes with windows 10.
Most of other computers within those plans but not being retired and using office365 are migrating to windows 11 for "free".

That is what that figure shows.
 
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