Windows 11 General Discussion

ThaiTaffy · Oct 2, 2021

Probably that kind of attitude is why the masses don't adopt Linux over Mac os or Windows personally I've been using windows for nearly 30 years through the bad and good I used windows me for years so why change now.

R-T-B · Oct 2, 2021

ThaiTaffy said:
Probably that kind of attitude is why the masses don't adopt Linux over Mac os or Windows personally I've been using windows for nearly 30 years through the bad and good I used windows me for years so why change now.

It's the only thing holding me back. The rest of the progress on the Linux front has been amazing but for HDR, it's windows 11 for the best experience basically.

mtosev · Oct 2, 2021

ThaiTaffy said:
Probably that kind of attitude is why the masses don't adopt Linux over Mac os or Windows personally I've been using windows for nearly 30 years through the bad and good I used windows me for years so why change now.

I've been on Windows since 1997 when I got my first PC. It had Windows 3.11 later I went thru 95, 98, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 10 and gonna be on Windows 11 when it comes out.

FireFox · Oct 2, 2021

johnspack said:
Still don't understand why people need windows though.

I need it because i don't need/like Linux.
Sure you will ask if i have tried Linux, before you ask, yes i have tried it.

You like Linux, i prefer Windows.
As the old saying goes, to each their own.

P4-630 · Oct 2, 2021

Khonjel said:
I've avoided trekking here since I'm not gonna install W11 for a long time still. But are we talking about this:
Windows 11 will hobble gaming performance by default on some prebuilt PCs | PC Gamer

In our testing with pre-release builds of Windows 11, a feature called Virtualization-based Security (VBS) causes performance to drop. VBS is enabled by default after a clean install of Windows 11, but not when upgrading from Windows 10. This means the same system can get different benchmark scores depending on how Windows 11 was installed and whether VBS is enabled or not. We plan to add VBS detection to our benchmarks in a future update to help you compare scores fairly.

UL benchmarks are ready for Windows 11

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Much appreciated

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Hugis · Oct 2, 2021

Handy hidden Win 11 admin account with no uac www.ghacks.net/2021/10/01/how-to-enable-the-hidden-windows-11-administrator-account

Mr Bill · Oct 2, 2021

Did something change with the Snipping tool, mine disappeared off my taskbar.

ThrashZone · Oct 2, 2021

Mr Bill said:
Did something change with the Snipping tool, mine disappeared off my taskbar.

Hi,
Yeah I hate that
I use win-7 snipping tool/ paint and notepad on my desktops in a folder
All you need it a copy of each with en-US folder in it with them make shortcuts boom done.

theFOoL · Oct 2, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yeah I hate that
I use win-7 snipping tool/ paint and notepad on my desktops in a folder
All you need it a copy of each with en-US folder in it with them make shortcuts boom done.

It's still there... Just a new UI

ThrashZone · Oct 2, 2021

theFOoL said:
It's still there... Just a new UI

Hi,
I hate the way newer snipping tool opens
I open 7 snipping tool it's already taken a screen shot just have drag where I want to snip
Newer you have to hit New before it does anything lol

Mr Bill · Oct 2, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yeah I hate that
I use win-7 snipping tool/ paint and notepad on my desktops in a folder
All you need it a copy of each with en-US folder in it with them make shortcuts boom done.

I was wondering when MS would start screwing some things up with 11. :cool:

ThrashZone · Oct 2, 2021

Mr Bill said:
I was wondering when MS would start screwing some things up with 11.

Hi,
They started that in win-10 lol
So it's just another continuation
Paint is a freaking sad joke in 11 UI is so bland it's childish.

P4-630 · Oct 2, 2021

ThrashZone said:
you have to hit New before it does anything lol

That's how the snipping tool works for me on win 10.

Mr Bill · Oct 2, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
They started that in win-10 lol
So it's just another continuation
Paint is a freaking sad joke in 11 UI is so bland it's childish.

I can deal with it, it's just the icon looks like a pre-school thing.

ThrashZone · Oct 2, 2021

P4-630 said:
That's how the snipping tool works for me on win 10.

Hi,
It's a step backwards seems paint/ notepad are all steps backwards so I did an alternative that doesn't change and I don't get the silly message they have moved when I go to use them anymore :cool:

Mr Bill said:
I can deal with it, it's just the icon looks like a pre-school thing.

Surprised the shortcut didn't stay and you get it moved message.

Mr Bill · Oct 2, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
It's a step backwards seems paint/ notepad are all steps backwards so I did an alternative that doesn't change and I don't get the silly message they have moved when I go to use them anymore

Surprised the shortcut didn't stay and you get it moved message.

No, there was just a blank area left on the taskbar, I right clicked in that area to unpin, then went to apps and found the new one and pinned it back to the taskbar.

ThrashZone · Oct 2, 2021

Mr Bill said:
No, there was just a blank area left on the taskbar, I right clicked in that area to unpin, then went to apps and found the new one and pinned it back to the taskbar.

Hi,
Yep that shit don't happen anymore

theFOoL · Oct 2, 2021

Mr Bill said:
No, there was just a blank area left on the taskbar, I right clicked in that area to unpin, then went to apps and found the new one and pinned it back to the taskbar.

I hated that at first but me use to it now. Apps updating without one noticing

ThrashZone · Oct 2, 2021

lynx29 said:
yeah my laptop has tpm 2.0 as well, but my i7-7820hk cpu is too old... even though the i7-7820hq is just fine for win 11.... pathetic M$

Hi,
Seems the manufacture would be the one to hammer not ms
I mean they support 79...x series and it's the same age.

Shrek · Oct 2, 2021

Which CPU chips have TPM 2.0 built in?

FireFox · Oct 2, 2021

Mr Bill said:
it's just the icon looks like a pre-school thing.

Sadly it's not just the Snipping tool that looks like that but the whole UI :oops:

P4-630 · Oct 2, 2021

Andy Shiekh said:
Which CPU chips have TPM 2.0 built in?

According to google:

Ever since Skylake (6th gen), nearly all Intel CPUs have an embedded TPM 2.0 that Intel calls Platform Trust Technology (PTT).
AMD CPUs have an embedded TPM 2.0 called fTPM since the AM4 platform (2016)

I have a Skylake CPU and yet it isn't officially supported... :banghead:

Intel CPU's are officially supported from 8th gen.

windwhirl · Oct 2, 2021

johnspack said:
It looks really good. And if i could afford 1000s for a new computer, I'm sure it would would run good. Still don't understand why people need windows though.
There are choices.

Dude, no offense, but it's starting to look like you have a hate boner for Windows.

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yeah I hate that
I use win-7 snipping tool/ paint and notepad on my desktops in a folder
All you need it a copy of each with en-US folder in it with them make shortcuts boom done.

Ah, I should check if PicPick has fixed their tool. I don't like Windows's.

Hugis said:
Handy hidden Win 11 admin account with no uac www.ghacks.net/2021/10/01/how-to-enable-the-hidden-windows-11-administrator-account

It's been around since Windows 10 at least, if not 7. Though, I still enable full UAC on all accounts, even the factory admin one, with secure desktop and password field.

Andy Shiekh said:
Which CPU chips have TPM 2.0 built in?

On AMD's side all since Zen, I think. It depends on whether you can enable it, though.

Intel... I think Skylake, but again it depends on your motherboard allowing you to switch it on.

lexluthermiester · Oct 2, 2021

johnspack said:
It looks really good. And if i could afford 1000s for a new computer, I'm sure it would would run good. Still don't understand why people need windows though.
There are choices.

ThaiTaffy said:
Mainly brand awareness and popularity for example I'd guess a good percentage use IPhone's for the brand not the ease of use or security. Opensource os's are free so inherently have very little brand awareness, people know about Linux, Unix,temple os from users and word of mouth so the likelihood of someone who just uses their computer for emails, word processing and web browsing going with anything other than Mac or Microsoft is extremely slim. People also just aren't interested most of the time my brother in law is young and plays pc games occasionally but has no idea what ryzen is but understands the difference between intel models.

Once again, this thread is about Windows 11. Everyone is welcome to also discuss things which are related to Windows 11 as well. However, we do NOT want this thread to be polluted with "Linux is better!/No Windows is better!" back and forth nonsense. Take the Linux talk elsewhere!

Final warning before I ask the mods to start issuing thread bans.

Space Lynx · Oct 2, 2021

Windows 11 will hobble gaming performance by default on some prebuilt PCs

Microsoft 'will be enabling VBS on most new PCs over this next year' and that can tank PC gaming performance by around 25%.

www.pcgamer.com

how does one turn off VBS in win 10 and win 11? that's what I want to know.

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