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The windows registry is not a bad thing, it is just used poorly by most software (and hardware) installls. Actually the poor part is not the installs, but the uninstalls.
There is no reason that the registry entries of a program cannot be removed on an uninstall, yet most programs leave all kinds of crap behind.
This is not a problem with the registry, but with the way the uninstall code handles the removal of an application.
There would be no need for a program like CCleaner if the uninstalls would do good registry management.
 
IggSter said:
3. I disagree on IE at the very least. How are you going to get online to get a different browser? Not many people are going to have it on a flash drive.

This is where i believe a software repositry will be invaluable

4. One if not 3. One for Home users, one for Businesses, and one geared specifically for GAMERS.

I concede your point, but at the core I beleive these all should be the same OS with repositry items added (probably at a cost to keep Microsoft share prices high

5. Why buy needed apps like FF and media players when they are already free?

Sorry, I did not mean you pay for already free applications, but what about Photoshop, Virus scanners, demo then pay etc

7. And use what instead?

to be honest, a piece of paper and a pencil would be better

8. I dont care as long as its standard and I know how to find it easily. One reason I hate linux is because I have to create/do everything myself when I want it to be done in seconds by the OS.

I totally agree on the linux front...it can be very painful and soul destroying....my gripe with windows is: I install an app to program files\appname....no problem, but Windows also dumps stuff to my registry which it does not tell me about, more files to my docs\appname and even more to \Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application Data\appname....why can't i specify c:\data\appname and at least have some visibility and be able to backup these files in one go!
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3. Im not really aware of a software "repository." :banghead: Explain this for me please.

4. I could totally agree with you if the idea in my head is what I believe you are getting at. See last sentence in my number 3. :)

5. I woudlnt use that anyway. Free FTW!

8. I agree with what Kreij stated. Its not Microsoft's fault with teh registry but the companies that dont know how to take their shit out of it properly when you uninstall their product. If that were to be fixed, there would be less issues with the registry.
 
zOMG :) :) :)

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ATM just a bit more mess and bling-bling. RAM usage is the same ar Server 2008.
Oh yes - new MS Paint. Now it looks like Office 2007, which i hate because it took me 10 minutes to find how i can print out something :banghead::banghead::banghead:
Micsosoft ruined good old Paint :shadedshu
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New stuff - Windows Powershell and its graphical console (at the top)

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Looks very nice with the odd vista look for good measure and paint was never good but that looks weird. :wtf:
 
The one thing Windows is really missing is an emulator for Windows 95-Windows XP. I don't mean a "Compatibility Wizard" either--I mean a full-fledged virtual environment running on Windows 7. I find it increasingly difficult to want to upgrade operating systems because I have no guarantee that I will be able to continue to use my existing software.
 
I might try windows 7 this weekend,i have an iso of that same version.

Hows is it compared to xp/vista pagalms? How is it on games?
 
You shouldent start testing games in a pre beta.
I agree with the emulator thing! They still have time to implement it, so lets hope they are making one.
 
Don't know about games. Yesterday i tried to install Vista's sound driver and got BSOD. Right now i'm trying to install Vista's VGA driver. Previous Windows 7 beta worked fine with Vista drivers.
 
when is this due to time out?(all the ms beta's are timebombed from my exp)

dont wana bother moving from server 2008 till I know theres a good reasion to :P
 
Trial period is 30 days.
I'm on Server 2008 too. Installed 7 just to check out what's new in it.
 
i love my server 2008, and its great having ligit keys for it(thanks microsoft!!!)
 
i too have a beta copy of 7. the machine i was going to test it on has been sold... so no testy for me :(
 
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Mussels said:
i too have a beta copy of 7. the machine i was going to test it on has been sold... so no testy for me :(
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Well put it on another machine then i no you got a few :p
 
Triprift said:
Well put it on another machine then i no you got a few :p
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i sold my 939 rig to get my AM2, and the bloody store lied. they never had the hardware in, and tried to con me to lower end hardware so i had to cancel the order.

ATM no free hard drives either, except a 160GB IDE... and i cant fit that in the lan rig. Could try and get it into the main PC i guess...
 
Virtual PC FTW :)
 
which VM solution allows 3D acceleration these days? last time i messed with it, DX 8.0 was the highest i could get running.
 
Sooo
VGA drivers: installed (somehow :| )
Sound drivers: can't install
Games: M3 Challenge crashes when i push Drive button.
Windows 7 Milestone 1 was better. :|
 
Mussels said:
which VM solution allows 3D acceleration these days? last time i messed with it, DX 8.0 was the highest i could get running.
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DX was marked as experimental last time I looked at VMware Workstation, but a new version has been out for some time now. I normally work with VMware Server so I don't know past that.

Don't let classic games die! :)

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win 7 sucks i do win vista install
 
Thats not suprising it is in beta stage wait for a few more betas and the full version then the usual bs of it not being at its best till a sp or 2.
 
CrAsHnBuRnXp said:
3. Im not really aware of a software "repository." :banghead: Explain this for me please.

4. I could totally agree with you if the idea in my head is what I believe you are getting at. See last sentence in my number 3. :)

5. I woudlnt use that anyway. Free FTW!

8. I agree with what Kreij stated. Its not Microsoft's fault with teh registry but the companies that dont know how to take their shit out of it properly when you uninstall their product. If that were to be fixed, there would be less issues with the registry.
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A software repositry is a central location where you can access most/all of the software that you may need for your O/S. This is generally accessed via a management GUI within the O/S itself.

Think along similar lines of the windows update site but without using a web browser and not limited to patches/fixes and Microsoft only products.

Here is a current example of s/w install in Windows:

I want xyz application
I google it
I find develpoers site
I navigate through a number of pages and find download page
I (possibly) fill in my email etc
I have to choose the correct download...32bit? 64bit? msi installer? zip file?
I download
I run install
Error.."You require .NET version 2 to be installed"
I google .NET version 2
...
...
...
...

Now a repositry example:

I run the O/Ss built in s/w management application.
I enter the name of the application in the search box
This application is listed (only the correct version for my OS is shown)
I tell management application i want to install xyz
management application tells me that xyz also needs .NET2 to work and asks if it should include that in install.
I say yes
management application then downloads all the components and installs
Done!
 
Kreij said:
LOL ... what kills me is how short people's memories have become.
Vista has problems (mostly driver related).
XP had problems (It was a nightmare before SP1 and did not really shine until SP2)
W2000 had problems (Not bad by SP4)
NT had problems which again had to be addressed by SPs
ME was just an abomination
98 tried to fix 95 and did okay, but still had problems.
95 was a crap shoot on reliability.

When you are writing an operating system with a tens of millions of lines of code there are going to be problems.
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Exactly! I currently use both Vista and XP (Home & Work), and I found most of my issues were either "duh's" on my part or patch related. I absolutely cannot understand the "fanboism" regarding one OS versus the other. Lots of times it depends on the unique users habits and needs. Anywho, I'm looking forward to Windows 7, and I have no doubts there will be issues with the original release. If writing OS's were easy, we'd see lot's of other companies besides MS out there.....;)
 
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