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Windows Experience Index.... what does it take to get a 7.9?

Bill_Bright said:
a benchmark program... [is] ...synthetic and abusive to hardware.
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slozomby said:
running a benchmark isn't horribly abusive to hardware.
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That's splitting hairs. "Not horribly abusive" is still abusive.
overclocking to the point of instability just to get a higher score in the benchmark is.
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Agreed. And I note that is exactly how some of those programs work and sadly, is exactly how some ill-informed and naïve users use them.

alucasa said:
Running a bechmark is just like rendering, pushing hardware to 100%. Just watch out for some stress tools that push stuff to 120%.
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You just illustrated the contradiction, and validated my point by confirming some benchmark programs abuse the hardware. Pushing the hardware beyond 100% (or to the point of instability) is abuse. Will it damage the hardware? Maybe, maybe not. But it will increase aging.

FTR - I have no problems running hardware at 100%. In fact, as an electronics technician, I say all electronics should be able to run at 100% of "published specs" 24/7 and remain stable and without overheating (assuming "normal" operating environments). But this capability can easily be verified by running a rendering program, or searching for ET or the cure for cancer (Folding) without running a program that intentionally abuses the hardware in an artificial scenario.

If you really know what you are doing and understand there are potential catastrophic consequences (and you own the hardware), and you are willing to accept those potential consequences, then go for it if that makes your boat float.

But again, benchmark programs don't improve performance and don't reflect your own real-world scenario. And that is especially true of WEI.
 
Which benchmark runs hardware beyond 100 %? I want to try it.
 
CAPSLOCKSTUCK said:
Which benchmark runs hardware beyond 100 %? I want to try it.
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The furball benchmark. I don't even remember the name now. It used to be used for GPU stress test until its dev went overboard.

I think Prime95 is also considered abuse.

For me, I just do a render for system test.
 
Bill_Bright said:
That's splitting hairs. "Not horribly abusive" is still abusive. Agreed. And I note that is exactly how some of those programs work and sadly, is exactly how some ill-informed and naïve users use them..
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doom at 4k with everything on ultra/nightmare runs my gpu at 100%. how is that any different from running timespy or heaven other than I can shoot demons in doom.


"or searching for ET or the cure for cancer (Folding) without running a program that intentionally abuses the hardware in an artificial scenario." it is frowned upon to use boinc or folding for stability testing. and they wont really tell you anything about performance other than it sees your gpu and can use it to get an answer. if you're going to use boinc collatz is one of the few projects that has a consistent workunit.

the running a benchmark that tests multiple components and compares them to similar systems is highly useful when building. if you are significantly outside the norm for a component then you can start troubleshoot why that is. now if you're just running benchmarks to run benchmarks then i'd consider that abuse. but as long as its not my hardware ( and i dont have to try and fix it later) I don't really care what they do with it.
 
cdawall said:
Man I don't know even my 5960x@4.6 doesn't get a 7.9
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Yup My CPU and ram get a 7.8, everything else is 7.9, honestly don't care about that deal.
 
eidairaman1 said:
Yup My CPU and ram get a 7.8, everything else is 7.9, honestly don't care about that deal.
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My ram got a 7.9, just the CPU "holding it back"
 
Knoxx29 said:
Weird because my Xeons get 7.9:D
Old Gen vs new Gen and the winner is Old Gen:toast:
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Maybe I will have to run it again without the internet browser open and a dozen background programs?
 
cdawall said:
That or kick the chip up some more it is at 4.6 with 1.3v it seems to be a pretty strong little bastard.
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If i was you i would OC till i reach 1.35V.
 
Knoxx29 said:
If i was you i would OC till i reach 1.35V.
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It's my work pc if it dies I'll just get another.... I have been tempted to see what it does at 1.42
 
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johnspack said:
Under Win7, with my current hardware, I should be able to hit 7.9, but only my 970 rates... what does it take to hit 7.9 under Win7.... just wondering?
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It takes the worst part of your system scoring a 7.9 ie the lowest individual score sets the final score , mines beat 7.9 for example as it's a well balanced system at least it did last time I ran it but that's a few years ago and my C drive moved from a pciex ssd (ocz revo2)(which still works fine but 120Gb)to my present 950 evo
 
cdawall said:
It's my work pc if it dies I'll just get another.... I have been tempted to see what it does at 1.42
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First try 1.35V then come back and report:D
 
I love the way my 7970 is supposedly better at gaming than your 1070 @P4-630..........:)
and my overall graphics score is higher than @Durvelle27 's 480

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slozomby said:
doom at 4k with everything on ultra/nightmare runs my gpu at 100%. how is that any different from running timespy or heaven other than I can shoot demons in doom.
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In many cases, running a benchmarking program is like pushing a solid tone (single frequency) through a speaker or amplifier at full power. Okay, it will tell you if the amp and speaker can handle it, but music, even 130dB rock music does not put a load on speakers or amps that way. It is constantly varying many times a second just as the most challenging computer game is constantly varying as action moves. I realize it is not a perfect analogy comparing analog loads to digital loads, but the idea is the same. Benchmarking programs are synthetic and some get totally obsessive over achieving the best benchmarking scores instead of just enjoying their games.

A few years ago I saw the same thing with overclockers. Their only goal was to reach the highest clocks so they could brag they got a higher clock. If that is why you build your computer, then fine.
 
I think people are confusing benchmark programs and stress test programs.

There is a difference.
 
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