Worth going RAID-0?

[LiveOrDie]

Im thinking about picking up a 2nd ssd and going RAID-0 would it worth it i've never used RAID in my life

 

[HossHuge]

The only problem I see is that you will lose TRIM. However, some say that Garbage Collection is still enabled.

Just like all things SSD, some say this and some say that....

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

what i know is that presently trim wouldnt work, you need to download intel Rapid Storage Tool ,its a driver for ahci and raid plus some management software this provides proper raid functionality on intel boards its on ver 10.8 and intel have leaked that they will be enabling trim behind raid with that software at ver 11.8 or 5 i think, still, then id still raid 0 and do a system image now n again then when the update comes out your safe to update without fear of data loss and raid 0 is worth it for sure

 

[Arctucas]

what i know is that presently trim wouldnt work, you need to download intel Rapid Storage Tool ,its a driver for ahci and raid plus some management software this provides proper raid functionality on intel boards its on ver 10.8 and intel have leaked that they will be enabling trim behind raid with that software at ver 11.8 or 5 i think, still, then id still raid 0 and do a system image now n again then when the update comes out your safe to update without fear of data loss and raid 0 is worth it for sure

+1

But, I believe a BIOS update to Intel RAID ROM 11.5.x.xxxx may also be required?

I am trying to get confirmation on this, if anyone knows...

 

[LiveOrDie]

Ok thanks ill wait for that update before going to RAID.

 

[LiveOrDie]

So is there any new on a date for the TRIM support for RAID-O ?

 

[Completely Bonkers]

So is there any new on a date for the TRIM support for RAID-O ?

Yep, it doesnt happen that fast!

 

[JATownes]

I have had a pair of Patriot Inferno 60GB in RAID-0 for the past 10 months. The have Sandforce Controllers and I can tell you definitively that Garbage Collection on Sandforce Controllers work. I have not lost any speed or health on the drives over the past 10 months, and as they are my system drive, they get pretty heavy use.

I say go for it. A pair of SSDs in RAID-0 are pretty damn fast.

 

[LiveOrDie]

So i shouldn't worry about TRIM and go buy a 2nd SSD now?

 

[Super XP]

I have had a pair of Patriot Inferno 60GB in RAID-0 for the past 10 months. The have Sandforce Controllers and I can tell you definitively that Garbage Collection on Sandforce Controllers work. I have not lost any speed or health on the drives over the past 10 months, and as they are my system drive, they get pretty heavy use.

I say go for it. A pair of SSDs in RAID-0 are pretty damn fast.

Wow you are lucky because my Patriot 32GB SSD x2 drives in RAID 0 messed up in a matter of months. Anyhow got a refund for them.

LOve the Avatar

 

[JATownes]

Here is a bench I ran after having the drives for about a month:

Here is a bench I ran just a few minutes ago:

As you can see, I have had no performance degradation at all. The drives are actually a little faster now on my new motherboard. I might be the exception to the rule, but everything I read about the Sandforce Controllers say that Garbage Collection is the same function as TRIM. It is just at the controller level instead of at the OS level.

Here is a good quote:

All this is common for all SSDs. An SSD with a SandForce controller has one other factor related to this GC and TRIM story. Due to their data compression techniques most data will be reduced when written to the drive. This results in a larger OP, with the same user capacity. In contrast if the OS did the compression you would fit more data on the drive, but the OP would be the same. This larger OP results in faster performance during GC. The RevoDrive cannot use TRIM because of the RAID controller onboard. This is true of all RAID controllers that I know of today, so it is not OCZ's fault it does not pass through. However, since OCZ chose the SandForce controller they have the advantage of automatically having more OP with most data and that results in higher performance normally only seen with the TRIM command.

Source

 

[LiveOrDie]

umm but looks like im getting faster speeds from just my single ssd than yours in raid 0?

 

[JATownes]

Correct. I am running SATAII SSDs. You are running a SATAIII SSD. So you will be running faster. But a pair of SATAIII SSDs in RAID-0 will max out your controller and be f#$%ing screaming fast!!! I say do it!!! And post screenshots so I can drool over it, and convince myself that I need to trade my drives for SATAIII drives.

 

[LiveOrDie]

ill need to do a clean install im guessing ?

 

[JATownes]

Yes. Technically you could make an image of your drive, and then load it onto the array, but I would just recommend a fresh clean install of Win7.

 

[LiveOrDie]

Ok thanks ill see if i can pick up a 2nd ssd on the way to work later today.

PS whos tites are those?

 

[JATownes]

My wife's. Now all I have to do is find her and marry her.

 

[LiveOrDie]

My wife's. Now all I have to do is find her and marry her.

HAHA i just went and picked some think up

 

[JATownes]

Hell yea, now just RAID those babies & show me some benchies! Congrats! That will be a sick little setup!

 

[musek]

lol, good comment about this future wife of yours, JATownes.
I'd like to see a bench or two as well. Go for it, Live OR Die!

 

[LiveOrDie]

Ok just reinstalled a fresh copy of windows 7 here a bench i just ran

 

[musek]

That is just sick!

Now what I would do:
- Buy myself some nice pimpin' 64GB RAM set
- Create 50GB RAM disk
- Put most needed software and games on it
- Enjoy totally lag-free environment

With ~800MB\s read\write it would take ~1-2 minutes for some RAM disk software to backup\restore this partition during system startup\shutdown.

Yeah, I know, I'm crazy

But seriously, performance is tremendous!

 

[LiveOrDie]

64GB RAM set haha when there like $600 then sure

 

[Completely Bonkers]

Those SSDs are screaming as loud as that disco-booty you got there! Lovely combination

 

[LiveOrDie]

Ok here a bench after installing all my programs and games ?