X800 GTO² to X850 XT BIOS Mod

[DanishDevil]

Is anybody using the PCI-E power connector that came with their video card box? I'm using the PCI-E power connector that came with my PSU. I mean when i looked at it, only two wires available for the C3D GTO? Is that good enough, a yellow and black wires? So who's using what and have they seen any power issues or what not?

I am now using the cable that came with my card. I am ordering one from ULTRA for my X-Connect PSU. I will try to overclock higher before I install my Zalman. I'll post my results here.

 

[breethon]

I recevied my Connect3d x800gto from Newegg yesterday, unlocked 16p like a charm! IT says I have the R480 core...not sure if I do or not. This is my 3rd try at modding my vid cards. I had the 9500 non pro, the 9800SE, and now this. This is the only one that truely worked flawlessly.....ROCK ON!

 

[Ombracol]

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=16647&vpn=SP-X800GTO256E-OEM&manufacture=SAPPHIRE
is this not the card

That is not the gto 2

 

[Ombracol]

Is anybody using the PCI-E power connector that came with their video card box? I'm using the PCI-E power connector that came with my PSU. I mean when i looked at it, only two wires available for the C3D GTO? Is that good enough, a yellow and black wires? So who's using what and have they seen any power issues or what not?

i dont have the c3d but i have the gto2. I'm using the cable that came with the card no issues there and my psu is only 375w. card runs great with 3 hardrives intalled and 2 dvd roms and tv tuner and 2 case fans and psu fan all set at 100% oh yeah and my speaker system that that gets power from the back of my psu its just 2 speakers and a sub.

 

[DanishDevil]

i dont have the c3d but i have the gto2. I'm using the cable that came with the card no issues there and my psu is only 375w. card runs great with 3 hardrives intalled and 2 dvd roms and tv tuner and 2 case fans and psu fan all set at 100% oh yeah and my speaker system that that gets power from the back of my psu its just 2 speakers and a sub.

What are your complete specs? I'm gonna try and find a link that I had a while ago . . . it gave you spots to fill in everything you had, and it told you the approx. power consumption of all of it.

 

[Cubewood]

Hi i just tryed flashing my GTO² and something is wrong.

I made a floppy bootable, and putted the 3 Flashrom files:

Flashrom
FLASHROM.CHG
FLASHROM.ROM

on the floppy.

Then i did the Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin on the floppy and renamed it to gto16pipe.bin.

I rebooted my comp and went in the boot menu.
Typed Flashrom -p 0 gto16pipe.bin and it gave this error:

ERROR OFL01

Im a noob in this stuff and i hope someone can help me and knows what i do wrong.

Thnx.

 

[DanishDevil]

Try using: Flashrom -f -p 0 gto16pipe.bin

The -f forces it to flash.

Follow this page exactly:
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/vidcard/34/8

GL and HF!

-=DaNiSh+DeViL=-

 

[Cubewood]

Ok thnx i will try it.

*Edit¨

It worked, thnx 16 pipelines now

Now i need to try some overclocking!

*edit*

This is the first time i ever overclocked something, but i cant get that high.
I got a Zalman VF700-CU on the graphic card but it still gets verry hot.
I connected it on the black 12volt connector so it should be at full speed.

Is it normal that it gets that the temps get that high, or did i instaled the fan wrong?

And what Temps + Clockspeed do you guys get?

 

[thetoad30]

Does anyone have any answers to this???

Hi all, it's me again!

Ok, I RMAed my last card and got a cross-ship. I now have another GTO2 and I have left everything stock. I immediately put the memory up to 591 since I know the card can handle that.

I let ATI Tool do the "Find Max Core" and it got up to 605 with 12 pipelines!!! MUCH BETTER than the 462 I was getting with intermittent lockups.

So ATI Tool told me after the reboot that the max working speed was at 589. I have currently backed the card down to 576/591 so that I can have some headroom.

I have been running the scan for artifacts now for 15 minutes and no problems at that speed.

Here's my question: Can a bios flash cause the card to immediately become unable to clock above 450 or so? Or is it more possible that my last card was just bad?

When using flashrom to go back to the 12 pipelines from my backed up bios, could it have left the other 4 pipes on but not used in the bios? Could that have caused my problem if one of the pipes wasn't up to snuff?

I ask this because stupidly I never tested the OC of the first card at stock cooler and bios before flashing.

Thank you

 

[DanishDevil]

Ok thnx i will try it.

*Edit¨


It worked, thnx 16 pipelines now

Now i need to try some overclocking!

*edit*

This is the first time i ever overclocked something, but i cant get that high.
I got a Zalman VF700-CU on the graphic card but it still gets verry hot.
I connected it on the black 12volt connector so it should be at full speed.

Is it normal that it gets that the temps get that high, or did i instaled the fan wrong?

And what Temps + Clockspeed do you guys get?

Did you use Arctic Silver 5 or the thermal paste that Zalman supplies? Those temps look great. The OC on the core doesn't though, but hey try this. Set your memory to stock and just try to overclock the core. if it produces artifacts, lower it until it doesn't. It could just be a bottom of the barrel core . . .

60C load at 522/618

 

[Cubewood]

I uses the Zalman supplies. IT helps much if i use Artic Silver 5? Then i just buy it tommorow, and check if it lowers the temps much.

When I'm playing Brothers in Arms Earned In Blood, with all details high i get 57° too. Is that high or normal?

Will try the overclocking on the way you say it. Hope it gets higher.

Dont know much about this overclocking because I always had a Geforce 4 MX 4400

 

[DanishDevil]

That is normal. Arctic Silver 5 helps. GL.

 

[Ombracol]

What are your complete specs? I'm gonna try and find a link that I had a while ago . . . it gave you spots to fill in everything you had, and it told you the approx. power consumption of all of it.

364.7 w max
+5---22a +5vsb---1.8a
+12-1 --12a +12v-2----12a
+3.3---20a +12v-sp-----1.2a
-12v----0.2a

I know I cant use an nvidia card with this psu

 

[Cubewood]

Ok will buy it as soon as posible.

Now i got core at 429 and allready 59°

*edit*
500/520

Max Load:65°

Think I will keep it like this, till I get the Artic Silver 5.

 

[Sejanus]

Woot!

Hey folks, thought I'd post my results with the Connect3D GTO

Important note: I *am* using a ASRock 939 Dual SATAII motherboard, bios 1.20

I was pretty nervous reading about all the problems folks have had with this card, mysterious crashes, and this motherboard.

The important bits of the rest of my rig:

X2 3800+ (currently not OC'd--that's next!)
Connect3D GTO 256MB PCIe unlocked to 16pipes, running at 560/560, using powercable included with the Connect3D retail package, and stock cooling
XP Service pack 2
2x512mb of PCIq DDR400 memory
Ultra X-Connect 500watt powersupply
Ultra Red Dragon midtower case (nice big puppy for lots of airflow) w/2-4 80MM case fans
I do have some case fans and a cpu fan that are all positioned just right to blow on the backside RAM, and give the card some extra cooling.

3DMark05 benches:

Connect3D GTO 12pp 400/490: 4436
12pp 520/560: 5478
16pp 400/490: 4961
16pp 560/560: 6314

Well, overclock-wise, that's even better than the stock x800xt, and *so far* it seems stable (knock on wood).

Question:
I didn't really check temps before flashing to 16pp, but at stock speeds and 16 pipes, it runs at 76C under load. Is this good/bad/normal? OC'd, it doesn't seem to run more than 1C hotter. I'm not really comfortable replacing the heatsink on the card, so I'd like to know what temps I should be aiming for.

Oddity:
I purchased my card from Newegg. It was supposed to be new, retail box. It came and was not in shrinkwrap. I opened it, and the antistatic bag and the manuals, none of that was sealed. The bag looked even like it had been untaped once already, and there may have been a fingerprint on that diagonal metal strip on the back of the board. I'm thinking I got someone's return. Of course, if it remains stable and those temps are good temps, I'll keep it, but it really kinda steamed me that I'd be paying for new, and getting used.

Thanks a lot Wizz and to the other posters on this board!

 

[Muk]

Has anyone successfully modded an AGP x800GTO?

 

[p0lly]

Ok will buy it as soon as posible.

Now i got core at 429 and allready 59°

*edit*
500/520

Max Load:65°

Think I will keep it like this, till I get the Artic Silver 5.

Cubewood,

Set your fan higher!!! you will be able to go WAY HIGHER than 500... In ATItool click on settings (bottom right corner) and then select "Fan Control" from the pull down menu. Here you can set the fan speed... (NOTE: 90% yields almost NO difference from 100% and it is not as loud)

 

[Cubewood]

Its allready on 100%

 

[p0lly]

Its allready on 100%

There must be a problem with the contact between your heatsink and core... if you would be willing to take it off, check to see if the paste is evenly spread. if it is thick on one side and too thin on the other, this may suggest that the sink is not sitting on the core flat. proper contact can make a difference of more than 20 deg. if the sink is not on properly

 

[kohan69]

sorry for my lame html skills, but here ya go:

 

[kohan69]

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[ranigapc]

My Sapphire GTO2 did not unlock. I ran ATITool and the CONFIG_DIE_FUSES is 0xFFFFBFFF (should be "F" and not "B") and the CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES is 0xFFFFFFF9E (should be "F" and not "E"). I tried flashing it anyways and of course it did not work. Any harm in leaving this bios, or do I need to reflash with the old bios?

I guess the success rate isn't 100% anymore. :shadedshu

 

[BlackPearl]

Sorry to hear that. Where did you buy your card?

 

[thetoad30]

Interesting.

Are you sure that it's a GTO2? That would be my only guess as to why it didn't flash... as I have gotten 2 cards now that were fine for flashing, but the first card I got didn't OC worth a damn.

I just received my RMA card and it is running like a champ at 575/591 at 16 pipes. I could go up to 590 on the core but it starts getting a little flaky even though ATI Tool reports no artifacts. Besides, that's 35 MHz over the XTPE speed I was looking for anyway!

Man, does it pull a lot of power at that speed though.

One last question that hopefully someone will answer: What is the danger in taking the memory above 590? I know it's rated for 600, but if it will go higher is that ok? Or will the memory just cook itself? I'm just thinking that if you can overclock the core, why can't you overclock the memory? Unless GPU's are different than CPU/DDR components.

Thank you

 

[kohan69]

My Sapphire GTO2 did not unlock. I ran ATITool and the CONFIG_DIE_FUSES is 0xFFFFBFFF (should be "F" and not "B") and the CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES is 0xFFFFFFF9E (should be "F" and not "E"). I tried flashing it anyways and of course it did not work. Any harm in leaving this bios, or do I need to reflash with the old bios?

I guess the success rate isn't 100% anymore. :shadedshu

did u use flashrom16?

is it gto2 LITE?