X800 GTO² to X850 XT BIOS Mod

[Reservoir_Dog]

Hi

I already have a x800pro VIVO succesfully modded to a X800XT Pe. (full 16 pipes)

Is it worthwile to go for the x800GTO2 and mod it to a X850XT pe?
Or is the X850XT pe not faster then my X800XT pe 520 560?

Greetings!

 

[p0lly]

Hi

I already have a x800pro VIVO succesfully modded to a X800XT Pe. (full 16 pipes)

Is it worthwile to go for the x800GTO2 and mod it to a X850XT pe?
Or is the X850XT pe not faster then my X800XT pe 520 560?

Greetings!

the stock 850XTPE speeds are 540/590... if you were to up your current speeds to those, they should perform very similar if not identical. because of your question, i assume you are new to OCing (WELCOME!!!)... you could increase your speeds two ways (1) use atitool in windows starts up, or (2) modify your current bios to reflect the new speeds and re-flash (you obviously know how to flash)

cheers

 

[p0lly]

WEIRD ATITOOL ISSUE!!!

I ran "find max core" (for the first time) yesterday on my GTO2 and went for dinner. came back and it was at 644 stable at 60C on stock cooling (artifact free) and still going! now this is WITHOUT a voltmod... THERE IS NO WAY THAT IS CORRECT!!! i then ran it at that speed for an hour without a problem and my heat never went above 60C.

is this a problem in 0.24??? has anyone ever experienced incorrect reporting of the core??? my fan also turns off every now and then for no reason - another issue???

 

[BlackPearl]

Hi

I already have a x800pro VIVO succesfully modded to a X800XT Pe. (full 16 pipes)

Is it worthwile to go for the x800GTO2 and mod it to a X850XT pe?
Or is the X850XT pe not faster then my X800XT pe 520 560?

Greetings!

No, it would not be worthwhile. While benchmark scores could improve a little, you would be very unlikely to notice a difference in games.

 

[Dynamic]

Reservoir_Dog,
There is not much difference in speed when you compare the X800XTPE to the X850XTPE, only in benchmarking within 50-70 points difference or more. Just like BlackPearl has mentioned, you won't notice any difference in games either.
BlackPearl,
Just out of curiosity, do you have an ASRock 939Dual-Sata2 or get on OCWorkbench.com? I thought i've seen you around or even mentioned to you that you can mod your Connect3D GTO card once in that forum, let me know.

 

[kohan69]

WEIRD ATITOOL ISSUE!!!

I ran "find max core" (for the first time) yesterday on my GTO2 and went for dinner. came back and it was at 644 stable at 60C on stock cooling (artifact free) and still going! now this is WITHOUT a voltmod... THERE IS NO WAY THAT IS CORRECT!!! i then ran it at that speed for an hour without a problem and my heat never went above 60C.

is this a problem in 0.24??? has anyone ever experienced incorrect reporting of the core??? my fan also turns off every now and then for no reason - another issue???

u got lucky

nope, u got lucky one guy hit 630core, 670 w/ voltmod
try again and 60c is too high

vga fan turns off when card is cool

 

[Cubewood]

60° for max load isn't high.

 

[BlackPearl]

p0lly - I can't say whether ATITool is wrong, but if it's not those are amazing clocks. As far as I know I never had a problem with temp reporting, but I use 0.25beta7. Also, I don't think that 60C under load is high at all, but I've never had the gpu fan shut down. The default fan speed according to ATITool is 54% and from the utility you can set other fixed or dynamic fan speeds.

Dynamic - yes, I'm using the Asrock board and been on the OCWB forum from time to time.

 

[p0lly]

kohan69,

60 is a good temp... if you look at the temps that x800's put out strait from the box, 75 should be your max temp to keep the card running well. i have seen quite a few threads that ask what is a good temp... if you want a reference point, go with what the manufacturer gave you - anything lower is better.

back to my core issue... there is no way i'm running those speeds without artifacts... has anyone encountered that problem before (atitool giving the wrong info)?

EDIT: BlackPearl, I'll try the beta and see what happens...

 

[DanishDevil]

p0lly,

Run 3DMARK05 for me and see what kind of score you get. The fan issue stems from what I beleive a bad fan choice for the card (and the power of the extra pipes combined with the shitty included power adapter).

I'll see if switching over to a diff. pwn adaptor helps later today. My Enermax Liberty is here!!!

 

[Dynamic]

DanishDevil,
So you're not using the PCI-E power connector from the GTO2 box anymore? Are you using the six wired connector from your PSU now? Three wires wasn't enough since it might of caused that problem for you?

Polly,
Those are some insane frequencies, it's got to be a bug or something, dude don't miss with that shit, hehehe.

 

[DanishDevil]

I will be once I get my Enermax Liberty 620W sleeved and modded.

Also, I would be finding the max OC with the new memory timings, but I'm waiting on my Zalman. The friggin video card fan died on me, so I literally pried off the aluminum cover off the video heatsink to expose the fins, and i stuck a Vantec UV Fan Card under it. 40 Idle 65 Load (on lowest setting cuz I can't stand noise).

100+ POSTS IN UNDER A MONTH! HOOAH! -sry bout the random outburst

 

[Biggeley]

Do you have a dell by any chance?

Nopers.. It's an emachines.. Has good hardware (pc 3200, athlon 64 3500+, ati rs482 mobo) but just a not great power supply.

 

[ShadowFlare]

p0lly,

Run 3DMARK05 for me and see what kind of score you get. The fan issue stems from what I beleive a bad fan choice for the card (and the power of the extra pipes combined with the shitty included power adapter).

I'll see if switching over to a diff. pwn adaptor helps later today. My Enermax Liberty is here!!!

Yes, do that and post your score and what gpu/memory clock speeds were in use. Maybe even post a screenshot of it with the score. The score you get I think should at least approach or exceed 7000 with those clock speeds. Mine gets 6250 at 520/600 and about 5000 at stock 400/490.

 

[XeoNoX]

Got my Connect3d GTO 256MB PCIx today and modded it. Got the R423 Chip. I got the core up to 560 before i stopped it because the temperature of 76 with stock cooling was scaring me and i got the memory up to 550. Im gonna need to buy better cooling. Im gonna get the zalman fan. But what ramsinks do you guys reccomend? Since im lazy, how many ram sinks should i buy?

3DMARK05 Scores Below
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5419 with a x800 XL that i returned back to bestbuy
4590 with C3D x800 GTO stock speeds
5172 with C3D x800 GTO 16 Pipe mod at stock speeds
6277 with C3D x800 16 Pipe mod Overclocked to 520/540
???? (unknown) with overclocked to the max cuz i have to buy better cooling 1st!


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System Specs
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Athlon 64 3500+ Venice (939 Pin)
ECS Nforce4-A939 Motherboard (Cheap)
420W Power Supply (Cheap)
Connect3d X800 GTO 256MB Modded (what a Deal if i ever heard one)

 

[funkioto]

Connect3d GTO

But what ramsinks do you guys reccomend?

Just came back to ask the exact same question!

are these decent? http://www.zalman.co.kr/upload/product/zm_rhs1_c_p.jpg

thanks

 

[noneed4me2]

Connect3d x800gto mod

Hey wWizzard and to all other potential modders Locutus12's iso/bios mod for gto's worked flawlessly on my C3d x800gto card. Now have 16 wonderful pipes of lovin. Just thought everyone should know. PS i used this iso because my new pc has no floppy and was having difficulties unlocking my bios using the flashrom from other boot options after following the techpower's guide.

 

[p0lly]

Yes, do that and post your score and what gpu/memory clock speeds were in use. Maybe even post a screenshot of it with the score. The score you get I think should at least approach or exceed 7000 with those clock speeds. Mine gets 6250 at 520/600 and about 5000 at stock 400/490.

I don't know how to take a screenshot but i just ran 3D05 @ 625/590 and got 6487. i'm kinda scared to run it at the speeds that ATItool says. i'm gonna try the 0.25 beta and see what kinda clocks i get with that... HOPEFULLY something a little more realistic.

 

[XeoNoX]

what zalman fan is everyone getting, i see they have my boy fatal1ty http://www.3gplaza.com/estore/control/Computer3G/productdetails?id=44272&srccode=PW

and they got these http://castle.pricewatch.com/s/search.asp?s=VF700-CU

and do they come with the ram heat sinks?

 

[kohan69]

kohan69,

60 is a good temp... if you look at the temps that x800's put out strait from the box, 75 should be your max temp to keep the card running well. i have seen quite a few threads that ask what is a good temp... if you want a reference point, go with what the manufacturer gave you - anything lower is better.

back to my core issue... there is no way i'm running those speeds without artifacts... has anyone encountered that problem before (atitool giving the wrong info)?

EDIT: BlackPearl, I'll try the beta and see what happens...

60c on load is ok for stock when IM ocing (c3d 16p 580/580) at 63c it crashes/freezes

620+mhz on core is NOT a mistake of atitool
Some other ppl got it too:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1087538#post1087538

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1087569#post1087569

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1097399#post1097399




ad here's a guide i made for noobs

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1114939#post1114939

 

[noneed4me2]

great deal

unless you want to go the mod route wth the gtos, this card is a great deal even without the rebate http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1476859&CatId=0, in case the link doesn't work its the Connect3d X800 XL for 229.00 minus $100 rebate $129.99 at tigerdirect.com while supplys last. Kinda wish they had this when i got my card but at least i got the vivo option.

 

[Pourya]

Stuck at 12 pipes!

I flashed the BIOS with both the AtiFlash and the modded FlashROM. I am still getting 12 Pipes in the ATI tool. I had the F numbers in the correct spots. The retail box of the card says GTO2.

In DOS after I flash it with the -f switch (which I had to do) it tells me the following

ROMID=12
FlashType = ST M25P05/c
SSID=0x1600
DeviceID=0x5d4F

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks!

please contact me by email, AIM or repost here.

 

[DanishDevil]

Get the Zalman VF700-Cu. It comes with some of the best ramsinks you can buy.

GL Guys!

Danish

PS: Still waiting on my VF700-Cu.

 

[dpadmore]

unless you want to go the mod route wth the gtos, this card is a great deal even without the rebate http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1476859&CatId=0, in case the link doesn't work its the Connect3d X800 XL for 229.00 minus $100 rebate $129.99 at tigerdirect.com while supplys last. Kinda wish they had this when i got my card but at least i got the vivo option.

Uh-huh. Only small problem you seem to have missed is that to qualify for the rebate you need to purchase a X-fire master card at the same time as the X800XL. That makes it a tad more pricey. There is a box on the right hand side of the page breaking this good news. Dont forget that a std XL R430 core will only be really happy at less than 450MHz and your R423 core should be a much better clocker so I wouldn't pine after an XL too much if I were you. My C3D GTO arrived 10 mins ago and once modded my bbATI XL is going straight to ebay.

 

[Cubewood]

Hi last time someone gave me this mem settings:

use ati toolhttp://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55485
TRCDRD: 7
TRCDWR: 3
TRP: 5
TRAS: 13
TRRD: 4
TWR: 6
TR2W: CL+2
TW2R: 4
TR2R: USE TWR RULE
TR2R: 2
WR_LATENCY: 1.5
CAS_LATENCY: 7
CMD_LATENCY: 0
STR_LATENCY: WR LATENCY
REFRESH_RATE: 0x75
TRFC: 23

And i saved it but i keep getting artifacts now. If I reboot my comp i still got the same settings, and I tryed reinstaling ATItool, but it wont help.
Can someone plz give me the normal settings from the GTO² ?

Thnx.