X800 GTO² to X850 XT BIOS Mod

ShadowFlare · Dec 3, 2005

VTwedge said:
geez i hate it when people slug the c3gto. whoput the fire blade above the gto as better? guys wake up i moded my gto when this article had like wot 9 pages long? and it worked as for the whose better thats completely objective! clock for clock the r423 is BETTER than the r480 u have on the saphire gto2 im running a sempron 3100 1.8 overclocked to 2.25ghz and my c3gto unlocked at 520/520 at stock cooling and i get 6166 at 3dmark 05. now someone get an athlon 3200 at 2.2 put their gto2 at 520/520 run the benchmark and come back at post their scores, currently waiting for my arctic cooling silencer 5 to overclock more..any takers on the bet that at the same frequency the gto2 is gonna score lower?when all else is the same?

I can try it out for you. I'll post the results when I do.

skane said:
Hi, I just got a retail GTO2 from NewEgg on 11/30. How did you review and mod the bios? Did you do the 3-step save, flash to x850xt pe w/-newbios, and flash over orig w/out -newbios, or actually mod a copy of the stock bios? I've been reading through this thread and would prefer having a modded bios using the original bios from my card as a base, since it appears there are different versions of these BIOS for the card. I want to avoid having anything back-leveled using an earlier modded GTO2 bios, or having residue from a X850XT PE flash hanging around in the BIOS.

Open up Catalyst Control Center, go to Information Center, then Graphics Hardware. Is the BIOS version 009.010.001.011, BIOS part number 113-AA78000-100-PC, and the BIOS date 2005/09/14? If so, then you have the same BIOS as me and could use the modded bios attached to this message. I've also attached the original for anyone who wants it. BTW, unlike the previous version, this one is 64 KB.

Viperman5686 · Dec 3, 2005

LAME. I got a Connect3D GTO. It has the R423 core, but it doesn't work. The fuses aren't the same.

Does anyone know if the bridges really are cut on this version, or is it just some kind of change that's messing it up?

ShadowFlare · Dec 3, 2005

dkdent said:
Hi you all,

i got a sapphire x800gto² graphics card and tried to do the flash, but after entering

'flashrom -p 0 newbios.bin' (the renammed file from the guide)

im getting a flashing red errormessage, that the SSIDs doesn't match
original SSID: 0x1600
new bios SSID: 0x0302

can anybody tell me what i have to do to solve my lil prob??

thx a lot,

dk

The reason that happens with the bios in the guide is that the one W1zzard put up isn't based on the exact same X800 GTO2 bios (it's a prerelease bios). Actually that bios won't even make the card identified as a RADEON X800 GTO. The modded bios I've attached will not require you to force the flash and will have the card showing as a RADEON X800 GTO. Of course, if you have the full retail version (which is a newer revision of the card), you would use the bios I posted in the above message. If you don't have the newer revision card, you could still use the newer bios anyway, if you want to.

skane · Dec 3, 2005

ShadowFlare said:
Open up Catalyst Control Center, go to Information Center, then Graphics Hardware. Is the BIOS version 009.010.001.011, BIOS part number 113-AA78000-100-PC, and the BIOS date 2005/09/14? If so, then you have the same BIOS as me and could use the modded bios attached to this message. I've also attached the original for anyone who wants it. BTW, unlike the previous one, this one is 64 KB.

ShadowFlare, thanks for the response. Yes, my Sapphire GTO2 retail has same BIOS version, BIOS part number, and BIOS date as yours.

Will this work?
1) Make a copy of Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.256.Samsung16_050914.bin to gto16p.bin ** i.e. use shorter filename for bios to flash

2) atiflash -s 0 gto12p.bin ** save a copy of my bios in case need to backout

3) atiflash -p 0 gto16p.bin -newbios ** assuming i need to use -newbios parm to update the pipeline setting

if #3 doesn't flash, force the flash atiflash -f -p 0 gto16p.bin -newbios

or will I need to use the modified flashrom? Sorry in advance for my noobie questions, but I just want to do this once

ShadowFlare · Dec 3, 2005

skane said:
ShadowFlare, thanks for the response. Yes, my Sapphire GTO2 retail has same BIOS version, BIOS part number, and BIOS date as yours.

Will this work?
1) Make a copy of Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.256.Samsung16_050914.bin to gto16p.bin ** i.e. use shorter filename for bios to flash

2) atiflash -s 0 gto12p.bin ** save a copy of my bios in case need to backout

3) atiflash -p 0 gto16p.bin -newbios ** assuming i need to use -newbios parm to update the pipeline setting

if #3 doesn't flash, force the flash atiflash -f -p 0 gto16p.bin -newbios

or will I need to use the modified flashrom? Sorry in advance for my noobie questions, but I just want to do this once

Yes, that is exactly how you should do it. One more recommendation for you, though (and for anyone flashing their video bios): download both utilities in case one of them doesn't work right (as in says that there was an error writing the bios). If that happens, then you will have the other utility ready to try out without rebooting. I've heard of this happening to someone once. Luckily, they had both utilities ready to use.

Migons · Dec 3, 2005

Viperman5686 said:
LAME. I got a Connect3D GTO. It has the R423 core, but it doesn't work. The fuses aren't the same.

Does anyone know if the bridges really are cut on this version, or is it just some kind of change that's messing it up?

What are the fuses (screenshot etc)?

Kcomp · Dec 3, 2005

Does anyone have the original retail bios for the (locked) connect3d gto cards with the following fuse data (please post it if you do)?

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES : 0xEFF37FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES : 0xFFFFF71E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES : 0x861

Or if its the same as the 12 pipe one in the article could someone please confirm so? Many thanks.

nspot · Dec 3, 2005

Thanks Kcomp. I guess it was the wrong bios I was flashing it to. But I finally got the 16 with my C3D GTO. Awesome.

Viperman5686 · Dec 3, 2005

Migons said:
What are the fuses (screenshot etc)?

The fuses are wrong; did I get an R423 with cut pipelines?

Migons · Dec 4, 2005

Viperman5686 said:
The fuses are wrong; did I get an R423 with cut pipelines?

I guess you did. And because DIE_FUSES isn't F (you've B), the pipelines seem to be locked inside the core.

Viperman5686 · Dec 4, 2005

Migons said:
I guess you did. And because DIE_FUSES isn't F (you've B), the pipelines seem to be locked inside the core.

So they're physically cut?

Roybin · Dec 4, 2005

Viperman5686 said:
The fuses are wrong; did I get an R423 with cut pipelines?

Hi, I have exactly same fuses data as yours. It is also not moddable to 16 pipe. It is a pity. :confused:

How many core and memory frequency did you overclock to? I got 560/520 max

Viperman5686 · Dec 4, 2005

Roybin said:
Hi, I have exactly same fuses data as yours. It is also not moddable to 16 pipe. It is a pity.
How many core and memory frequency did you overclock to? I got 560/520 max

I only got 565/515.

skane · Dec 4, 2005

Reporting back... Flashed my card with the 09/14/05 modded bios from ShadowFlare. Got the 16 pipelines.
With 12 pipelines, max. artifact-free clocks looping 3DMark03 Mother Nature was 537 / 639. After the flash to 16 pipes, I had to back down to 519 / 610 for clean runs in 3K03 Nature, and ATITool artifact tester.

Score comparisons, 12p vs. 16p. Stock VC cooling, stock Opteron 148.

3DMark03
12p, 537 / 639 = 11877
16p, 537 / 639 = 12966 (artifacts)
16p, 519 / 610 = 12688

3DMark05
12p, 537 / 639 = 5766
16p, 537 / 639 = 6514 (artifacts)
16p, 519 / 610 = 6293

I'll probably install a Zalman vf700-cu to maybe get a boost on the core clocks, and at least bring down the temps (~ 64C load). The Opty 148 will also get OC'd after I put it under a waterblock.

Much thanks to W1zzard and ShadowFlare for sharing their knowledge!

DanishDevil · Dec 4, 2005

SorANET said:
I use Connect3D X800GTO. It can mod to 16pp.

But Anyone know. Can I flash it to X850 XT PE? Because My card work correctly at X850 XT PE speed (540/590) on Water Cooling.

Thank you.

No you cannot. The Connect3D X800GTO has a different core than the X850XTPE (R480 on the X850XTPE). If you try, you will fry your card or render it useless.

VTwedge · Dec 4, 2005

still waiting for your results danish

DanishDevil · Dec 4, 2005

From? If it's from the Enhanced Memory Timings, they're here:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=46422&postcount=1192

p00lb0y · Dec 4, 2005

Newer Card Serial Numbers

Would some of those who have received cards that are now locked please care to post all or perhaps the trailing portions of the serial numbers for those cards? This might allow others, including me, to make a better guess whether to open the packages that will be delivered soon, in my case, from NewEgg.

Thanks in any case.

p00lb0y

p00lb0y · Dec 4, 2005

Moddable Sapphire GTO2

Is this the correct video card to purchase that is able to be unlocked to the 16 pipes?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102634

Thanks again for any and all replies.

p00lb0y

Migons · Dec 4, 2005

Viperman5686 said:
So they're physically cut?

Yeah...

ShadowFlare · Dec 4, 2005

p00lb0y said:
Is this the correct video card to purchase that is able to be unlocked to the 16 pipes?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102634

Thanks again for any and all replies.

p00lb0y

Yep, that's the one. I got one of those exact ones from there just recently and it did unlock and did overclock fairly well (up to around 540/600, possibly to 560/600 with better cooling since it didn't crash before that point). Plus, with that one since it is the full retail version, you get games with it. When you get the card, use my modded bios which is dated 09/14/2005 (posted just a little earlier in the thread). I think I may make a thread for bios mods. If I do, then you could more easily find it there than having to look through the pages here.

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john57 · Dec 5, 2005

connect3D X800

I got lucky that my card from NewEgg was unlocked and I was able to unlock all 16 pipes. It had all the right F's in the right places.

p00lb0y · Dec 5, 2005

Connect 3D Unlocked

john57 said:
I got lucky that my card from NewEgg was unlocked and I was able to unlock all 16 pipes. It had all the right F's in the right places.

Would you share the date you ordered your card? Any sort of revision or serial information you might care to share would help [me] decide if the one I have on the way is a lesser serial number which [might] allow me to infer what to expect.

Thanks in any case.

p00lb0y

john57 · Dec 5, 2005

connect3

I did had a lot of trouble in getting the Zalman cooler to stay flat on the GPU betting all copper and just two screws holding it. I not going to pull the card out again but I will show a picture on the back. ordered on 11/15

Processor	Athlon 64 Venice 3200+ 2.0 GHz, max 2.6 GHz with Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu
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Memory	1 GB (2x512 MB) DDR400 Corsair XMS C2 series, max 233 MHz @ 2-3-2-9 1T
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Motherboard	EpoX 9NPA+Ultra nForce4 Ultra with Zalman ZM-NB47J
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Memory	1 GB (2x512 MB) DDR400 Corsair XMS C2 series, max 233 MHz @ 2-3-2-9 1T
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Radeon X800GTO2 256 MB PCIe max 540/600, modded to 16 pipes
Storage	Seagate 80GB SATA, Maxtor 160GB PATA, Maxtor 200GB PATA
Display(s)	Dell 17" Trinitron CRT
Case	Lian Li PC-60B Plus
Audio Device(s)	Built-in Realtek chip
Power Supply	Enermax Noisetaker EG495AX-VE, 485 watts, active PFC
Software	Windows XP Pro SP2, Windows XP Pro x64, Windows Vista RC1 32-bit

Processor	Athlon 64 Venice 3200+ 2.0 GHz, max 2.6 GHz with Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu
Motherboard	EpoX 9NPA+Ultra nForce4 Ultra with Zalman ZM-NB47J
Cooling	All Zalman heatsinks (CNPS7000B-AlCu, ZM-NB47J, VF700-Cu)
Memory	1 GB (2x512 MB) DDR400 Corsair XMS C2 series, max 233 MHz @ 2-3-2-9 1T
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Storage	Seagate 80GB SATA, Maxtor 160GB PATA, Maxtor 200GB PATA
Display(s)	Dell 17" Trinitron CRT
Case	Lian Li PC-60B Plus
Audio Device(s)	Built-in Realtek chip
Power Supply	Enermax Noisetaker EG495AX-VE, 485 watts, active PFC
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Processor	Athlon 64 3500+ ClawHammer
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Case	Antec Performance PlusView1000AMG
Audio Device(s)	Sound Blaster Live! 5.1
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