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X800 GTO² to X850 XT BIOS Mod

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My OC is totally stable. It'snot maxed out. I am running 2 optical drives, 1x120mm, 1x92mm, & 3x80mm fans on rheostats. I also have the SB Audigy 2 and a tuner/capture card. The following are on USB ports: scanner, printer, card reader, & keyboard/mouse. My voltages are stable even under load. Whatcha think?

Also, I did bring the memory down and try to work the core up with no better results.
 
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You can have the BEST CPU/MotherBoard combo, but your PSU should be the most important factor when it comes to powering them together. If not you'll have lockups, reboots, crash with sound loops just like you've mentioned. Why don't you try disconnecting some of those hd's and just keep your Raptor. Try shooting for higher clocks and see if it's stable with games. If it still does it, then take the GTO2 over to one of your buddies and see how it works over there. With any results, you should know what you need to do, right? Good Luck!

Note: y0 try this site and tell us how much watt's you're using from your PSU, okay?

http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/Power_Supply_Calculator.php?cmd=AMD

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/index.jsp (This one is better)

If neither one suites you do a search for a better one....
 
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What cooling are you using for your GTO? How are you testing it anyhow? I can't get mine any higher then 550core/565memory. With an R423 anything is possible, you can do a volt mod, but seriously how much performance can you get out of this card when there are cards like GTX 512 or X1800XT that are out right now that you probably desire more then GTO @16pp 600/600 and beside i think the higher you go without proper cooling and voltage you scores drop or doesn't go higher at all.
 
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570/570 on a GTO w/stock cooling is pretty damn good kid. How are you testing that beast? Did you leave the ARTIFACTS running for like 5-6 hours on it yet? hehehehehe. No, that's probably nuts, well i don't know you have to take risks in life right? Well, at least tell me this, have you had any crashes or artifacts in your games with this so far? If no, then try 580/580. hahaha.
 

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Dynamic said:
Put your memory to 565, then test your core going up from 550. You might get lucky at 555 or 560. Your memory should be good at 565, let me know, good luck!

ok ... i will try it. but i doubt that i find the time for this before thursday. i will keep you updated !
 

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Dynamic said:
570/570 on a GTO w/stock cooling is pretty damn good kid. How are you testing that beast? Did you leave the ARTIFACTS running for like 5-6 hours on it yet? hehehehehe. No, that's probably nuts, well i don't know you have to take risks in life right? Well, at least tell me this, have you had any crashes or artifacts in your games with this so far? If no, then try 580/580. hahaha.


Yeap, no crashes, no artifacts in any games or 3dmarks. Totally stable at 570\570 on w\stock cooling. Hmm maybe go to 590? BUt is too much risk.
MY friend have 575\575 on the same card , with w\stock cooling too.
 
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blsnelling said:
My OC is totally stable. It'snot maxed out. I am running 2 optical drives, 1x120mm, 1x92mm, & 3x80mm fans on rheostats. I also have the SB Audigy 2 and a tuner/capture card. The following are on USB ports: scanner, printer, card reader, & keyboard/mouse. My voltages are stable even under load. Whatcha think?

Also, I did bring the memory down and try to work the core up with no better results.


486 Watts my friend. You are in deep shit when it comes to that PSU. Get the Enermax Liberty 620Watt.
 
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My OC'ed Rig w/ Screenshot

Hi guys, back with an update. I am running:

A64 3200+ Venice @ 2.35Ghz
DFI nf4 Ultra Infinity Mobo
Connect3d X800GTO @ 16 Pipes and 510/550
1GB (2x512) GeIL DDR400 Value Ram @ 392mhz and 2,3,2,7
250GB WD SATAII (3GB/s) 16MB cache
RaidMax Virgo 811 Case with (1) 120mm and (1) 80mm fan
Aspire 520W PSU w/ 3 fans

3dMark05 Score: 6234

This is all with stock cooling. I have ordered:
Another 120mm fan for the front of the case
Another 1GB of the GeIL RAM
Zalman VF700-Cu 2 Ball VGA Cooler Fan
Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu LED 2 Ball LED Light Cooling Fan
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Cooling Compound

I know I can go higher on the video card, but I'm afraid to with stock cooling. I'll be sure to give updates when I get my new stuff installed...

Here is a screenshot:
 

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hey i can't find my post in this GIANT thread LOL. i found it before i rebooted and flashed my card again, but it's been over 15mins i've been searching this. oh well lol. wanted to say thanks to whoever suggested to use RaBit to edit my bios. worked great :D "Found New Hardware" "ATi Radeon x800XT" :D
 

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DanishDevil said:
486 Watts my friend. You are in deep shit when it comes to that PSU. Get the Enermax Liberty 620Watt.
If you put CPU and Vid Card at 100%, I'm at 513W!!!!! Might be time for an upgrade???!!!
 
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Yeah I assume so. Like I suggested, the Enermax Libery 620W PSU is a GREAT power supply, and would be perfect for your rig.
 

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I have the exact same power supply as blsnelling, but I have far less extra components in my computer, so it is just fine for mine. :) BTW, does that Enermax Liberty 620W PSU have active PFC or not?

I know for certain that on my system, it uses far less than 485 watts. I have my system connected to a battery backup that is only for 410 watts and I also have my 17 inch monitor and a satellite receiver connected to it. When I'm not overclocking my CPU, the only time the overload light goes on is sometimes when I turn my monitor on. This happens even with the computer off when turning on the monitor. When overclocking the CPU, the overload light does sometimes go on while the system and the monitor are already running, but it rarely happens even at load when overclocking the CPU and video card.

According to http://www.extreme.outervision.com/index.jsp my system would use about 350 watts at full load when overclocked, about 307 at full load with nothing overclocked, and 317 with only video card overclocked (I selected X800 XL for non-overclocked speed and X850 XT PE for overclocked speed).
 
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I hadn't ever calculated it before, but I figured I was probably pushing it. I'm probably getting by because I could never use all the components at one time. I monitor my voltages on my LCD and they are always steady. I may still look into replacing it. It's just a pain to rewire everything with so much in my system:(
 

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Well, you do have more in your system than I'll probably ever have in mine. :) I actually have a pretty good margin on mine right now; 350 watts max used on a 485 watt power supply. That leaves a little over 25% unused even when overclocking.
 

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This is primarily a Photoshop/video editting machine since I do photography on the side. That's why I have the large RAID10 array and 2GB memory. PS is a memory hog.
 

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C3Dgto with 16 pipes unlocked & on Powercolor x800xt bios... problems :eek:(

I have a connect3d gto unlocked and on the above bios...
The card plays nearly all games, is fast, doesnt overheat, never crashes and is at the default x800xt, 500 core & 1gig memory.

However, in some games I get the most awful corruption, like a broken mirror effect... Ive noticed it in...
-Americas Army, bridge crossing map
-F.E.A.R. but only when I go for the renaming of fear.exe to anything.exe which is supposed
to give better performance
...and most annoying of all...
-In the actual catylist control centre itself, where it shows you the car going along the road

is anyone else experiencing these or similar problems? with this setup?

I just wanted to run at x800xt speeds without having to manually overclock, but it looks as though I may have to go back to original c3d bios but with 16 pipes & manually overclock from there... :eek:( Bummer!

My Systems is...
-Athlon64 3200+ @ default 2 gig
-Asrock dual sata2 with Uli chipset (the one that does Pci-E & Agp)
-512 of twinmos ddr 400 cl 2.5 (yeah I know I need more & better!)
-74Gb WD Raptor
-C3D gto @ 500 core, 1000 mem on Powercolor x800xt bios
-with no other mods or overclocking
 

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kapeeteeleest_peeg said:
I have a connect3d gto unlocked and on the above bios...
The card plays nearly all games, is fast, doesnt overheat, never crashes and is at the default x800xt, 500 core & 1gig memory.

However, in some games I get the most awful corruption, like a broken mirror effect... Ive noticed it in...
-Americas Army, bridge crossing map
-F.E.A.R. but only when I go for the renaming of fear.exe to anything.exe which is supposed
to give better performance
...and most annoying of all...
-In the actual catylist control centre itself, where it shows you the car going along the road

is anyone else experiencing these or similar problems? with this setup?

I just wanted to run at x800xt speeds without having to manually overclock, but it looks as though I may have to go back to original c3d bios but with 16 pipes & manually overclock from there... :eek:( Bummer!

My Systems is...
-Athlon64 3200+ @ default 2 gig
-Asrock dual sata2 with Uli chipset (the one that does Pci-E & Agp)
-512 of twinmos ddr 400 cl 2.5 (yeah I know I need more & better!)
-74Gb WD Raptor
-C3D gto @ 500 core, 1000 mem on Powercolor x800xt bios
-with no other mods or overclocking
First use ATITool to find out if your card can even handle those speeds. If it can, you could use RaBiT 1.7 to set the default speed for your card's own bios rather that having to use another card's bios.

Also, if your card can handle certain speeds with a certain bios (like your original bios, for exampe), that doesn't necessarily mean it can handle those speeds when using a different bios.
 

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Not to offend anyone, but no one ever needs more than a 350W power supply, and that's for SLI.

These guys have pretty good equipment for testing power. Give it a look before you spend hard-earned cash on a power supply that has way more output than you will ever need.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article28-page4.html

Buy a power supply that is BETTER, not BIGGER. I personally use a SeaSonic S12-500W. Why 500? Because it comes with the PCIe power connectors that the newer video cards use. That's the only reason. Other than that, if the 430W or even the 350W PSU had that I would have probably gotten that for my system instead.
 

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ShadowFlare said:
First use ATITool to find out if your card can even handle those speeds. If it can, you could use RaBiT 1.7 to set the default speed for your card's own bios rather that having to use another card's bios.

Also, if your card can handle certain speeds with a certain bios (like your original bios, for exampe), that doesn't necessarily mean it can handle those speeds when using a different bios.

my card hits 80c stable in ati tool whilst doin artifact scan, cat control centre says that this is just short of amber/red on the scale, so Im not concerned too much with that, and it didnt make an error after 30 mins of artifact scan. Not interested in o/c over x800xt speeds...

Thanx for your comments, they seem to be the way to go :toast:
like I say, most games are fine, but its a bit of a worry it occurs in cat control centre animation :twitch:
 

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had the same problems as you with the x800xt bios on my c3d gto it would cause hangups in some games or throw me back to desktop at 500/1000, when i flashed my own bios over it again 520/520 is stable so yeah shadowflare is probably right if it can handle 520/520 with my bios it doesn't mean it can handle even 500/500 with another;)
 

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best bios/settings for C3D gto?

VTwedge said:
had the same problems as you with the x800xt bios on my c3d gto it would cause hangups in some games or throw me back to desktop at 500/1000, when i flashed my own bios over it again 520/520 is stable so yeah shadowflare is probably right if it can handle 520/520 with my bios it doesn't mean it can handle even 500/500 with another;)

Hmmm, I flashed to c3d gto 16 pipe bios @ 500/500 usin rabit... still corrupt in cat control centre...

I flashed to c3d gto 16 pipe @ 400/490 default... still corrupt in cat control

Im begining to think that the last quad of 16 pipes is faulty, the one I enabled with the mod?!!!
...hmmm, is my r423 out of the rubbish bin? or the surplus parts bin? lol
...any ideas?

on the games front the card plays BF2, FEAR & Americas Army(except bridge) superbly, on powercolor x800xt bios...
 

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kapeeteeleest_peeg said:
Hmmm, I flashed to c3d gto 16 pipe bios @ 500/500 usin rabit... still corrupt in cat control centre...

I flashed to c3d gto 16 pipe @ 400/490 default... still corrupt in cat control

Im begining to think that the last quad of 16 pipes is faulty, the one I enabled with the mod?!!!
...hmmm, is my r423 out of the rubbish bin? or the surplus parts bin? lol
...any ideas?

on the games front the card plays BF2, FEAR & Americas Army(except bridge) superbly, on powercolor x800xt bios...
Have you tried overclocking with your original 12 pipe bios?
 

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ShadowFlare said:
Have you tried overclocking with your original 12 pipe bios?
Yeah, thats where Im goin next...

just to try and erradicate cat control centre 'car' corruption...

...after that, I may go back to the pwrcolor x800xt bios or rabit'ed C3D16pp@500/500 & go through my game collection to see how many games it is 'actually' gonna corrupt.
...wished I'd gotten the 7800gt I'd promised myself now :ohwell:
 

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Rabit?

Hey guys, what are you talking about when you refer to "Rabit" mods? Link, anyone?
 
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