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peche · Dec 17, 2015

flash light screwed your pic lad.... cables seems to be pretty well!

Regards,

[Ion] · Dec 17, 2015

Core i3 3240
Intel 320 80GB
Biostar H61G board
Enermax 500W PSU
EVGA GTX460 EE
1x8GB DDR3
Antec NSK3480

The SSD was installed last week and the i3 last night. Not the flashiest setup, but it does pretty well. Small, nearly silent, and decent on my 1600P LCD. Looking for an R9 290 or 290X sometime soon; 1GB just isn't enough for this many pixels

tabascosauz · Dec 21, 2015

Back in the air travel game! Lil' desktop is going home to reunite with his mATX brethren.
So far so good. Rig has changed in terms of components, but old parts are still around and unscathed from last time. The fat one is no more! Rig went on a little diet and is now just 22 pounds.

This one is for @MIRTAZAPINE, since I have a hard time describing the setup with words. This is how it's packed. Wheels are on the left (front bezel of SG05 faces down when rolling), t-shirt underneath to cushion and fill in the height gap, mains lead and in this case a bunch of E-loops on the right.

Last of the potato pictures, I promise. Will be home and reunited with my camera in less than 12 hours.

peche · Dec 21, 2015

nice carrying case lad.... if were mine, decales were everywhere...!

PHaS3 · Dec 21, 2015

My H100 gave up (finally). The pump still pumps but doesn't report anything to the board, and the block doesn't spin the fans anymore. Replaced it with an H105. I had some issues getting it to fit in my Define R4, but discovered if I removed the RAM, installed the rad, then replaced the RAM, it all fit

I was bleak when I saw this TIM out the box (lucky I prefer my own MX4

):

Apologies for the cable management mess. I was too hot and hung over to fiddle any more once I got the cooler in. It'll be fixed up later

peche · Dec 21, 2015

PHaS3 said:
My H100 gave up (finally). The pump still pumps but doesn't report anything to the board, and the block doesn't spin the fans anymore. Replaced it with an H105. I had some issues getting it to fit in my Define R4, but discovered if I removed the RAM, installed the rad, then replaced the RAM, it all fit

thats why i have a thick 120mm rad... my old case was a pain in the ass for having 240mm rads, i love how they look... im glad you could make it!

PHaS3 said:
I was bleak when I saw this TIM out the box (lucky I prefer my own MX4 ):

knowledge is strong with you ! replacing the paste on those units = epic win !
using arctic mx4 = ultimate win ...

PHaS3 said:
Apologies for the cable management mess. I was too hot and hung over to fiddle any more once I got the cooler in. It'll be fixed up later

later= somewhere else in the future where al the magic, mistic, imposible and maybe all the things we just wont do are scheduled for happening ... !

:toast:

regards,

MxPhenom 216 · Dec 21, 2015

Just finished stealth mounting my platter drive to the side of the 5.25" bay of my 750D. In the near future I plan to move the lower rad to the front. get a taller reservoir, cut the bottom part of the 5.25" bay out, and have a short line going from the front rad to the top 360 radiator. And then create a lower divder to run all the way along the bottom to cover up the PSU. Hoping to god the double sided 3M tape holds the hard drive. Oh and I changed the routing of the GPU power cables a little bit to now stick out like a sore thumb like before.

Jetster · Dec 22, 2015

RMA has returned 12/4 to 12/21 turn around time

MT Alex · Dec 22, 2015

MxPhenom 216 said:
Just finished stealth mounting my platter drive to the side of the 5.25" bay of my 750D. In the near future I plan to move the lower rad to the front. get a taller reservoir, cut the bottom part of the 5.25" bay out, and have a short line going from the front rad to the top 360 radiator. And then create a lower divder to run all the way along the bottom to cover up the PSU. Hoping to god the double sided 3M tape holds the hard drive. Oh and I changed the routing of the GPU power cables a little bit to now stick out like a sore thumb like before.

I wish most girls shaved as clean as that looks, young shaver!

Jetster · Dec 22, 2015

That hard drive is going to heat up that tape then it may fall. But that tape is pretty secure. Its a pain to get off later. Ive done a few SSDs and it can be tough

MxPhenom 216 · Dec 22, 2015

Jetster said:
That hard drive is going to heat up that tape then it may fall. But that tape is pretty secure. Its a pain to get off later. Ive done a few SSDs and it can be tough

I think it should be okay. My drive doesn't get any hotter really than my ssds. And I got the idea from a couple other builds over at OCN. And it seems to be work fine to them. Maybe having the drive still in one of the sleds helps.

I'll definitely keep an eye on it though. If it does fall ill change the tape to an outdoors doubled sided tape that is weather and temperature resistant, and holds up to 5lbs. And also use few tiny zip ties to zip tie it to the bay.

MIRTAZAPINE · Dec 23, 2015

tabascosauz said:
Back in the air travel game! Lil' desktop is going home to reunite with his mATX brethren.
So far so good. Rig has changed in terms of components, but old parts are still around and unscathed from last time. The fat one is no more! Rig went on a little diet and is now just 22 pounds.

This one is for @MIRTAZAPINE, since I have a hard time describing the setup with words. This is how it's packed. Wheels are on the left (front bezel of SG05 faces down when rolling), t-shirt underneath to cushion and fill in the height gap, mains lead and in this case a bunch of E-loops on the right.

Last of the potato pictures, I promise. Will be home and reunited with my camera in less than 12 hours.

The picture don't look potato to me. Excellent like french fries, process and cooked.

This new silverstone is so cute in that bag! Tiny little there. Where the huge one went too? You sold it? I have a very soft spot for mini pcs. You are tempting me alot! Hopefully with time I can build one as small as possible! I am still keeping watch for Sentry Pc case which is console size and shape. Plus the dan a4 case. Their still raising funds from their designers. Or maybe I'll build my own case with boxes around from ikea.

GreiverBlade · Dec 23, 2015

MIRTAZAPINE said:
The picture don't look potato to me. Excellent like french fries, process and cooked. This new silverstone is so cute in that bag! Tiny little there. Where the huge one went too? You sold it? I have a very soft spot for mini pcs. You are tempting me alot! Hopefully with time I can build one as small as possible! I am still keeping watch for Sentry Pc case which is console size and shape. Plus the dan a4 case. Their still raising funds from their designers. Or maybe I'll build my own case with boxes around from ikea.

"off track"
i concurs, except for one thing French fries are not French, they are Belgian (OCD about the French in the fries denomination ... it should be potatoes fries or Belgian fries, then they would be excellent) i still fail to see why it's called "french" fries since so long ... :laugh:

"on track"
oh well 2.6ghz P4 build is ... no good (thanks to that cheap MSI mATX mobo ...) i really need to find some DDR2 for the XFX 650i Ultra (PCIe) or try to revive the DFI NF4 U (PCIe) or use the MSI K8N Neo2 (agp) instead, just doing another retrorig (P4 build would be enough for oldies that only run on win Xp tho C2D and Athlon 64 build would even be a bit overkill :laugh:

even for PS2 emulation and some old games)

uh my Wiko only take blurry pics .... i need to check what's wrong, yes it's a old beige pc case and yes i need to do the dust it a bit (only a bit? )

t_ski · Dec 23, 2015

MIRTAZAPINE said:
The picture don't look potato to me. Excellent like french fries, process and cooked. This new silverstone is so cute in that bag! Tiny little there. Where the huge one went too? You sold it? I have a very soft spot for mini pcs. You are tempting me alot! Hopefully with time I can build one as small as possible! I am still keeping watch for Sentry Pc case which is console size and shape. Plus the dan a4 case. Their still raising funds from their designers. Or maybe I'll build my own case with boxes around from ikea.

I believe the "potato" pic reference is to using his phone for a camera instead of a dedicated camera

Ferrum Master · Dec 23, 2015

I also modded the case to fit the HDD in the place of ODD cage. Took 4 motherboard spacers, screws, nuts and a drill... a bit foam for sound dampening in the mouth of ODD's. It looks as it should be there from the start.

F-Zero · Dec 23, 2015

Ferrum Master said:
I also modded the case to fit the HDD in the place of ODD cage. Took 4 motherboard spacers, screws, nuts and a drill... a bit foam for sound dampening in the mouth of ODD's. It looks as it should be there from the start.

Looks great man ! Very nice !

DarthBaggins · Dec 27, 2015

How my rig currently sits (until I get the desk area reorganized)

PP Mguire · Dec 27, 2015

Took the drive cage cover off for easier access to my card rads. It doesn't look as good but when I'm swapping stuff it makes it super easy, plus the side panel covers it up mostly.

tabascosauz · Dec 28, 2015

DarthBaggins said:
How my rig currently sits (until I get the desk area reorganized)

That's one hell of a beautiful M8. I was looking to get a X2M this Christmas, but sadly there's no end to the CAD's decline.

DarthBaggins · Dec 28, 2015

I was looking at snagging an X2M myself to make a mobile folder/gaming monster, but I've put that on hold since I have a CoolerMaster Elite 130 lying around and a 4790k that's been collecting dust since I tore down the build it was in.:

My modded Corsair Vengeance C70 (modded to a reverse ATX case and painted)

PP Mguire · Dec 28, 2015

Did you do the twist of the hose on purpose?

DarthBaggins · Dec 28, 2015

Yes that was very purposeful, Still held around 65c on full F@H load on the CPU @ 4.7 1.258vcore (4790k)

peche · Dec 28, 2015

DarthBaggins said:
I was looking at snagging an X2M myself to make a mobile folder/gaming monster, but I've put that on hold since I have a CoolerMaster Elite 130 lying around and a 4790k that's been collecting dust since I tore down the build it was in.:

My modded Corsair Vengeance C70 (modded to a reverse ATX case and painted)

nice paint job lad!

DarthBaggins · Dec 28, 2015

Thanks, I used Montana Spray Paints to do it, some of the best rattle can paints I've ever used (Acrylic based). :toast:

peche · Dec 28, 2015

i always wanted to paint my case in a sick color scheme ... but i gotta recognize that i do suck on paint ... my skill aren't better than a potato with a pressure paint pistol on a wall...

Regards.

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Processor	AMD RYZEN 9 5950X
Motherboard	ASUS Strix X570-E
Cooling	2x 360 + 280 rads. 3x Gentle Typhoons, 3x Phanteks T30, 2x TT T140 . EK-Quantum Momentum Monoblock.
Memory	4x8GB G.SKILL Trident Z RGB F4-4133C19D-16GTZR 14-16-12-30-44
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Power Supply	Fractal Design Newton R3 1000W
Mouse	Razer Basilisk
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Software	FEDORA 40

Processor	Intel Pentium III-S 1.4 Ghz
Motherboard	Asus TUSL2-C
Cooling	CoolerMaster Sckt.370
Memory	Kingston 2x256Mb SDR 133 Mhz
Video Card(s)	3dfx Voodoo 5 5500 AGP 64Mb
Storage	Crucial BX500 240GB
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Case	Antec PlusView 1000 AMG
Audio Device(s)	Creative X-FI XtremeGamer
Power Supply	XFX TS 550W Bronze
Mouse	Glorious MODEL O-
Keyboard	Corsair K70 RGB MK.2
Software	Windows XP
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Processor	i7 6900k
Motherboard	ASUS x99 Deluxe
Cooling	Custom Water Cooled using EKWB components
Memory	Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB DDR4 2400 CL10 (4 x 8GB)
Video Card(s)	MSI Aero OC GTX 1080Ti
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Case	InWin 303 Black
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Power Supply	Corsair RM850x
Mouse	Logitech G Pro x Superlight
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VR HMD	Quest 2
Software	Windows 10 Pro

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Processor	Intel Xeon 1650 V3 @ 4.2GHz
Motherboard	eVGA X99 FTW K
Cooling	EK Supremacy EVO, Swiftech MCP50x, Alphacool NeXXos UT60 360, Black Ice GTX 360
Memory	2x16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000MHz
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Storage	HyperX Predator 240GB PCI-E, Samsung 850 Pro 512GB
Display(s)	Dell UltraSharp 34" Ultra-Wide (U3415W) / (Samsung 48" Curved 4k)
Case	Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Acrylic Edition
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Mouse	Logitech G502
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