Monday, August 24th 2009

AMD Lists Out Cypress Technologies, Tentative Branding?

In a release to its AIB partners, AMD listed out the key features of its high performance GPU in the Evergreen family, codenamed "Cypress". While not getting into the GPU specifications, it lists out the key technologies the GPUs support. It comes as no surprise that AMD will name Cypress-XT and Cypress-Pro as Radeon HD 5870 and Radeon HD 5850, a model number scheme that's been running for the past two generations. While product launches, tentatively on September 22, and (p)reviews keep us busy in September, retail availability can be expected only in October, just in time for that of Windows 7.
  • 1GB GDDR5 memory
  • ATI Eyefinity technology with support for up to three displays
  • ATI Stream technology
  • Designed for DirectCompute 5.0 and OpenCL
  • Accelerated Video Transcoding (AVT)
  • Compliant with DirectX 11 and earlier revisions,supports OpenGL 3.1
  • ATI CrossFireX multi-GPU support for highly scalable performance
  • ATI Avivo HD video and display technology
  • Dynamic power management with ATI PowerPlay technology
  • 2x DL-DVI, DisplayPort, HDMI
  • PCI Express 2.0 interface



Sources: VR-Zone, ATI-Forum
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60 Comments on AMD Lists Out Cypress Technologies, Tentative Branding?

#1
Mussels
Moderprator
three displays on one card? improvement there.
AVT sounds like AVIVO renamed.
DC 5.0/OCL :)


and it seems that some rumours were false, they did keep the 'HD' branding
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#2
csendesmark
"AMD will name Cypress-XT and Cypress-Pro as Radeon HD 5870 and Radeon HD 5850"
I heard the new radeon's name will be Radeon 7 (like Windows 7)

AMD already did it once Windows XP -> Athlon XP
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#4
cavemanthreeonesix
are we too expect much of a performance gain compared to the 4000 series, or is it just a 4870 with dx 11 support and a bit more fine tuned gpu?
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#5
Mussels
Moderprator
by: cavemanthreeonesix
are we too expect much of a performance gain compared to the 4000 series, or is it just a 4870 with dx 11 support and a bit more fine tuned gpu?
look at the 4770 compared to the 4850 - with a die shrink and half the memory bus, they managed to match a more complicared, more expensive model.

if they applied the same tweaks to a 4890, they'd have a monster with ease.

so far no one knows speed, but a 50% boost over a 4870 for the 5870, is quite easy to imagine.
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#6
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: csendesmark
"AMD will name Cypress-XT and Cypress-Pro as Radeon HD 5870 and Radeon HD 5850"
I heard the new radeon's name will be Radeon 7 (like Windows 7)

AMD already did it once Windows XP -> Athlon XP
XP for windows was eXPerience, and for Athlon was eXtremePerformance.
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#7
AltecV1
so the 5800 series will have 1gig of gddr5 at stock that is very cool:rockout: now i cant wait for (p)reviews:banghead:
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#8
legends84
nice..cant wait to see what it can do:)
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#9
Beowulf
From what i've read (rumors of course) cypress will feature over 1600SP, and that its around HD4870X2 in performance.

Pure speculation of course, but the rumored die size taken into consideration, its possible.
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#10
wiak
sweet, 1GB GDDR5 on vanilla ^^
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#11
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
Hopefully with this generation they can do what Nvidia has been doing and make some gains. Nvidia still has cards that trounce ATIs using GDDR3.
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#12
Nemo~
wicked sick,if they hit market with some nice price tags they'll sell like hell
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#13
ahkiet
Is 5850 the direct x 11 version of 4770? with similar low power consumption ?
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#14
MrAlex
by: WarEagleAU
Hopefully with this generation they can do what Nvidia has been doing and make some gains. Nvidia still has cards that trounce ATIs using GDDR3.
Because of the larger memory bus. No other reason.
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#16
Easo
Nice specs, but three displays? o_O
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#17
wiak
by: Easo
Nice specs, but three displays? o_O
3 outputs, heck the demo card had Dual DVIs, DisplayPort and HDMI
so basicly you can run two DVI monitors, DisplayPort Monitor and a HDMI Monitor :cool:

by: ahkiet
Is 5850 the direct x 11 version of 4770? with similar low power consumption ?
every card in evergreen family is twice as fast as the old RV770 generation
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#18
csendesmark
by: wiak
[quote="ahkiet, post: 1525884"]Is 5850 the direct x 11 version of 4770? with similar low power consumption ?
every card in evergreen family is twice as fast as the old RV770 generation[/quote]OFC the new high-end is faster than the old mainstream stuff, he asked the powe consumption.
And as a High-end card, its use a lot of energy ^^ (I bet, the new 5850 will use the double power)
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#19
largon
Considering the die on Cypress is way over twice as big as a hypothetical 40nm shrink of RV770 (16RBE/40TMU/800SP) there's a significant performance increase to be expected. 32RBE/80TMU/1600SP is a conservative estimate, there could very well be more than 1600SPs.
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#20
JrRacinFan
Served 5k and counting ...
I absolutely love this news! Bring on Sept. and the new cards.
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#21
dalekdukesboy
question begged to be asked however...what is Nvidia doing? I rather doubt they're just sitting there twiddling their thumbs waiting for ATI to release next gen cards first and react later...if they take gt200 and shrink to 40nm and use ddr5...nevermind if they improve the architecture and so on just the two improvements I just listed with higher clockspeeds and perhaps more shaders etc would be competition for the theoretical performance gains of this ATI monster. Then again, all theory, but simply saying that Nvidia has a very good starting point to come up with one heck of a card, yet no news recently on it and only talk of ATI...beware the quiet ones they say.
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#22
wiak
they said power consumption it will be around current 4800 gen
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#23
miloshs
by: largon
Considering the die on Cypress is way over twice as big as a hypothetical 40nm shrink of RV770 (16RBE/40TMU/800SP) there's a significant performance increase to be expected. 32RBE/80TMU/1600SP is a conservative estimate, there could very well be more than 1600SPs.
But why would you make something thats more than 50% more powerfull than the last thing you made!? Money is in baby steps not big steps. Sell the cards for the same money as they were 50% faster while being only 15-25% faster is an easy way to earn more money.

I'd say 1200SP is more likely... or 2400SP on 5870x2...

I just hope the price is right...

as the power goes i don't see why not have the same or less power consumption than 4800's. 4800's had almost the same power consumption as 3800's (a bit bigger, depending on the model)

I think 5800's are coming to soon to be revolutionary... i hope DX11 delivers better than DX10, and i hope we see some PhysX stuff from ATI!!!
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#24
human_error
by: miloshs
But why would you make something thats more than 50% more powerfull than the last thing you made!? Money is in baby steps not big steps. Sell the cards for the same money as they were 50% faster while being only 15-25% faster is an easy way to earn more money.

I'd say 1200SP is more likely... or 2400SP on 5870x2...

I just hope the price is right...

as the power goes i don't see why not have the same or less power consumption than 4800's. 4800's had almost the same power consumption as 3800's (a bit bigger, depending on the model)

I think 5800's are coming to soon to be revolutionary... i hope DX11 delivers better than DX10, and i hope we see some PhysX stuff from ATI!!!
...what? They'll make them as fast as they can whilst keeping within a defined overall cost (same as the previous cards were). They won't sell less if the cards are 50%+ faster than the previous gen - they will sell even more as there is a greater reason to upgrade for current gen card owners. Plus the HD4K series was over 50% faster than the 3K series was it not? (plus many other generations in the past like the 8800 series over the 7900s)

As to physx with dx11 physx is officially dead - developers will not make a game with physx support which only works on nvidia cards when they can make the game with dx11 physics compute which does the same as physx but will work on any dx11 capable card.
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#25
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: miloshs
But why would you make something thats more than 50% more powerfull than the last thing you made!? Money is in baby steps not big steps. Sell the cards for the same money as they were 50% faster while being only 15-25% faster is an easy way to earn more money.
That's what NVIDIA did with 8800 GTX (something that was >50% faster than 7900 GTX), and it worked.
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