i like how ppl sudenly forgot non refrence exist. youll never like the box cooler. get over it. ok prediction.... you wont like the next one lol

Kitkati like how ppl sudenly forgot non refrence exist. youll never like the box cooler. get over it. ok prediction.... you wont like the next one lol

This is simply not true, nVidia do make some decent stock coolers. :(

Big fan, long distance, little exit.

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Poor design (for cooling efficiency).

It may well be that this card is SO ADVANCED that it runs cold and with a silent low speed fan in which case cooling is a moot point. (somehow I dont think so! LOL)

ZubasaThis is simply not true, nVidia do make some decent stock coolers. :(

and what about my statement isnt true?!?!?! its still "decent" but thats never good enough And it still gets more air than the previous card did with 2 vents up front. The other part is how do YOU know how it cools. Plz right a review. Im not saying it isnt ugly. Im just saying ull never be "impressed" by stock

lemonadesodaBig fan, long distance, little exit.

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Poor design (for cooling efficiency).

It may well be that this card is SO ADVANCED that it runs cold and with a silent low speed fan in which case cooling is a mute point. (somehow I dont think so! LOL)

It will blow leaves!

At the end of the day, AMD wont bring something out with a cooler strapped to it if it doesn't do the job it needs to...people said the same about the HD2xxx and HD3xxx cooling designs.

The stock coolers on the above cards did the job; albeit not as well as aftermarket air, but, AMD only needs to offer enough cooling for stock clocks and nothing more...this will do the job. :)

reminds me of the HD4850 stock coolers at launch:shadedshu

"shivers"

lemonadesodaBig fan, long distance, little exit.

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Poor design (for cooling efficiency).

It may well be that this card is SO ADVANCED that it runs cold and with a silent low speed fan in which case cooling is a moot point. (somehow I dont think so! LOL)

I was just going to say this, the tiny vent is way to small to allow proper cooling. ATi's coolers are already extremely loud, this thing is going to be insane!

Kitkatand what about my statement isnt true?!?!?! its still "decent" but thats never good enough

The part where you say I won't like the stock cooler, that part isn't true. I love nVidia's stock coolers. Their stock coolers have been very well designed since the original G92s.

• Silent Fan
• Vent hot air out back of case
• Keeps GPU cool
• Allows for good overclocking headroom

newtekie1I was just going to say this, the tiny vent is way to small to allow proper cooling. ATi's coolers are already extremely loud, this thing is going to be insane!



The part where you say I won't like the stock cooler, that part isn't true. I love nVidia's stock coolers. Their stock coolers have been very well designed since the original G92s.

• Silent Fan
• Vent hot air out back of case
• Keeps GPU cool
• Allows for good overclocking headroom

You could even go back to the G80's (I had a 8800GTS) with Nvidia cooling. Nvidia coolers have been great, and way more quiet than ATi's designs. I am a bit concerned with how the noise will be with this new card.

If they dont size this down, i simply will destroy something!:shadedshu
why cant these morons design a card thats fits in a normal atx case???. my hd cage is fixed:banghead::banghead::banghead:

erockerYou could even go back to the G80's (I had a 8800GTS) with Nvidia cooling. Nvidia coolers have been great, and way more quiet than ATi's designs. I am a bit concerned with how the noise will be with this new card.

Well I couldn't comment on the G80s, as I never owned one...until yesterday when I recieve Paulieg's:laugh: Haven't had a chance to put it in a machine though.

Velvet WaferIf they dont size this down, i simply will destroy something!:shadedshu
why cant these morons design a card thats fits in a normal atx case???. my hd cage is fixed:banghead::banghead::banghead:

They make plenty of cards that fit in normal ATX cases.

It doesn't look longer than a GeForce GTX 280. So relax.

trt740thats big man, and I gotta say that's freaking ugly.

your comment made me laugh for some time :D

newtekie1I was just going to say this, the tiny vent is way to small to allow proper cooling. ATi's coolers are already extremely loud, this thing is going to be insane!



The part where you say I won't like the stock cooler, that part isn't true. I love nVidia's stock coolers. Their stock coolers have been very well designed since the original G92s.

• Silent Fan
• Vent hot air out back of case
• Keeps GPU cool
• Allows for good overclocking headroom

And how does this one sound? write a review.
"Proper" cooling in your head and everyone elses will ALWAYS be aftermarket.
Everything on your list can be tweaked fan speed ect. "i love stock coolers" stop.
Also isn't this GPU smaller than a 3870s??? hmmmmmmmm. That means more heat right???!!
im stupid correct me. so if it has MORE vents on the front and the same size fan and a substantial exit "for a stock fan" which some of "love" lol wouldn't it be ok?
Whats the headroom on a 40nm chip like?

sure It will be loud(maybe not) but look at the 9800GX2 and the dual PCB GTX295, they have similar exausts(the GX2 has worst), both do really good jobs cooling with enough airflo

KitkatAnd how does this one sound? write a review.
"Proper" cooling in your head and everyone elses will ALWAYS be aftermarket.
Everything on your list can be tweaked fan speed ect. "i love stock coolers" stop.
Also isn't this GPU smaller than a 3870s??? hmmmmmmmm. That means more heat right???!!
im stupid correct me. so if it has MORE vents on the front and the same size fan and a substantial exit "for a stock fan" which some of "love" lol wouldn't it be ok?
Whats the headroom on a 40nm chip like?

Have you even seen a HD3870 aka RV670 GPU?
That thing is tiny, and this thing is more comparable to the HD2900XT in size.

The problem with the narrrow outlet is that it forces air molecule to collide with each other, thus naturally creating more noise.
Proper cooling is about more than keeping the card barely alive.

About how long does this card look/appear to be compared to a reference 9800 GT? In order to fit my 9800 into my Raidmax Smilodon without removing the 4 HDDs, I had to break and bend the 6 pin connector to a 45 degree angle to have my power plugged in. :banghead:

I don't really want to have to move my Samsung F1s into the top of the case unless I really have to, as my HD cage is removable.

newtekie1Well I couldn't comment on the G80s, as I never owned one...until yesterday when I recieve Paulieg's:laugh: Haven't had a chance to put it in a machine though.



They make plenty of cards that fit in normal ATX cases.

but it are never the cards that i want :laugh:
the hd 4850 x2 was also an example... it was even bigger than the 4870 x2;)

EDIT: Love the Design from its lookings though. i somehow like it with a backplate

Jstn7477About how long does this card look/appear to be compared to a reference 9800 GT? In order to fit my 9800 into my Raidmax Smilodon without removing the 4 HDDs, I had to break and bend the 6 pin connector to a 45 degree angle to have my power plugged in. :banghead:

I don't really want to have to move my Samsung F1s into the top of the case unless I really have to, as my HD cage is removable.

Think GTX 280/260/275/295 and HD4870X2 all are 10.5 inch.

ZubasaHave you even seen a HD3870 aka RV670 GPU?
That thing is tiny, and this thing is more comparable to the HD2900XT in size.

lol thats the point... might wanna read a few post back ;)

KitkatAnd how does this one sound? write a review.

No thanks, I'm not that good at writing reviews.

KitkatProper cooling in your head and everyone elses will ALWAYS be aftermarket.

Not true again.

KitkatEverything on your list can be tweaked fan speed ect. "i love stock coolers" stop.

Not really, at least not on ATi's side. You can tweak the fan speed, and I do, but then temps are unacceptable. You can make temps lower, but then the noise is unbearable.

This isn't true with nVidia's coolers, I can run every nVidia card I had since G92 was release at full speed and bearly hear the fan, and I can tweak the fan speed to inaudiable levels and still have good enough temperatures to overclock with. So yes, I love the stock coolers on nVidia's cards, and I have never even thought of wasting money on replacing them with aftermarket solutions that are only marginally better.

KitkatAlso isnt this GPU smaller than a 3870s??? hmmmmmmmm. That means more heat right???!!

Who said it would be smaller? It is on a smaller process, but not necessarily smaller die size.

Kitkatim stupid correct me.

I am.

Kitkatso if it has MORE vents on the front and the same size fan and a substantial exit "for a stock fan" which some of "love" lol woudlnt it be ok?

But it doesn't.

KitkatWhats the headroom on a 40nm chip like?

Can be very good, or very bad.

W1zzardas far as i know tomorrow is only NDA press briefings .. public launch is later this month ..

yeah and widely avail in late october.

Damn looks like it got two exhaust pipes from a sports car

i believe this is where the 6 or 8pin is located;)

so then u dont know ANYTHING theyve been more secrative about this chip than any. Why not wait till evidence comes up about how it cools and what it does. before u acualy review it. as for the way it looks its fugly. But thats what i expected from a stock cooler.