if this thing is faster ,even a little,,, than 4870 X2,
then 5870 is my new target, just hope the price will start frm 299$.

Velvet Waferi believe this is where the 6 or 8pin is located;)

no they're on the same side as the crossfire connectors near the fan.

Tatsumaruif this thing is faster ,even a little,,, than 4870 X2,
then 5870 is my new target, just hope the price will start frm 299$.

I am hanging out for pricing

ZubasaThink GTX 280/260/275/295 and HD4870X2 all are 10.5 inch.

Ugh, I just measured my 9800 GT against the short side of a sheet of regular printer paper, and it looks like it's 9" long. Damnit. I guess I will have to ditch the HDD cage completely. :banghead:

it'll probably cost like 350 or 400

I sell a kidney for that thing there!!
It looks like a beast, a simple yet mean look, huge, all black with just some red parts, if its silent even better, heck even my HD2900XT was silent when slowed down, inaudible i dare to say, if they employ the same blower at lower speed it wont get to noisy...

And about its size, i have about 20cm from my current card to the HDD cage so i guess size does not matter...
There might be smaller non reference card in the future and the 5850 is probably smaller...

If this thing is 10.5 long then I'm cutting my HDD cage in half, I doubt I'll ever need moer then 3HDDs anyway ( I have space for 6 at the moment)
Anyway it means better air flow :D

As out the exhaust being very small I think it will be enough, just means it will come out at higher pressure, which yes could increase volume a small amount, but I don't think by to much, the fan will be louder then the exhaust area anyway XD Air coming out at higher pressure means heat gets further away from your case as well, this could be a good thing.

the two front red air intakes are innovative.

pantherx12If this thing is 10.5 long then I'm cutting my HDD cage in half, I doubt I'll ever need moer then 3HDDs anyway ( I have space for 6 at the moment)
Anyway it means better air flow :D

As out the exhaust being very small I think it will be enough, just means it will come out at higher pressure, which yes could increase volume a small amount, but I don't think by to much, the fan will be louder then the exhaust area anyway XD Air coming out at higher pressure means heat gets further away from your case as well, this could be a good thing.

It can also means the heat just get transfer to the pci slot plate. :p
The problem with ATi vaccum cleaners is that they come in the single slot USB VC aka weak ass, or the 1200W dust buster aka leaf blower. :respect:
The air can simply be bottlenecked at the plate.

ZubasaIt can also means the heat just get transfer to the pci slot plate. :p

cooling from the back is totally inefficient,normally... they must have made very big design changes, to make this possible;)

There's one unseen side of this card, where the power connectors are located, and I'm expecting there to be a vent similar to that on GTX 295 dual-PCB.



Also, you can see that the air is guided/channeled onto the vent on the back. So I think even large sections of air can be made to flow out of that easily.

ok so im just throwing it out there that this card looks like business and the first thing i think of when i see a card this long plus the bracket on the back is dual core gpu not dual gpu's on the same pcb but dual core gpu. they said that they had a big announcement about this card...i dont know im just sprouting out my first impressions.

Anathok so im just throwing it out there that this card looks like business and the first thing i think of when i see a card this long plus the bracket on the back is dual core gpu not dual gpu's on the same pcb but dual core gpu. they said that they had a big announcement about this card...i dont know im just sprouting out my first impressions.

A "dual-core" GPU is just a bigger GPU. :p
Well... All modern GPUs are "multi-core" :roll:

That would definitely be huge, i dont think they have that ready yet and if its was dual they'd need even bigger cooler...

I think...

Velvet Wafercooling from the back is totally inefficient,normally... they must have made very big design changes, to make this possible;)

Um.... I think you get me wrong.

Try holding a piece of metal in your hand and blow over it with a hair dryer.
Your fingers will start to feel really "interesting" :nutkick:

WTF's up with the tiny exhaust?

ZubasaUm.... I think you get me wrong.

Try holding a piece of metal in your hand and blow over it with a hair dryer.
Your fingers will start to feel really "interesting" :nutkick:

put your finger on an uncooled microchip. you will have the effect even faster ;)

it will work, but will it be fast enough? we will see:D if these is a dual-die card, im pleased anyways, because the single core solutions would be much smaller then:cool:

ZubasaA "dual-core" GPU is just a bigger GPU. :p
Well... All modern GPUs are "multi-core" :roll:

hmm well im talking about the same as a dual core cpu but a gpu version? maybe im totally wrong but i know gpu's are multicored but not in the sense that a cpu is. I know they are two totally different achitectures and all that jazz but maybe im off my rocker...thats just the impression i got from looking at this card.

alright the speculation can stop now. grab the details from here

80 tmu's and 32 rops settles it

this card is gonna be faster than a 4870X2

32 ROPs doesn't make sense for a 256-bit memory interface. Either that's 512-bit GDDR5, or 16 ROPs. One of these.

no GDDR5 can do 32 rops o a 256bit bus
just like the 4770 has 16 rops on a 128bit bus

after seeing the covered part if the cooler my comments are

Frikking huge gpu for a 40nm process = A lot of performance or an epic fail

HD 4890 Die size = 282 mm²

HD 5870 Die size = 330 mm²

Quite the size increase for a die shrink.

The bigger cards get the bigger cases we need, the less room for air to flow around, simple really. I dont like the casing on that card (well it looks like casing to me), i dont like the plastic bits on the vents the red plastic bits, if it wasn't so Duplo kids chunky Lego looking it would be great because it looks like it has a purpose to let air in and out. Another thing is that big cards look like value for money but i prefer the small ones they used to make, just a little add in that gave a lot of performance, i think they should put more effort on reducing the size like they do with a die size.