Monday, April 12th 2010

AMD Phenom II X6 PIB Units Pictured, Turbo Core Technology Detailed

Here they are, boxes that carry AMD's first desktop six-core processors, the Phenom II X6. This line of "true six core design" processors from AMD target performance/price sweet-spots in the sub-$300 segment, targeting higher-end Intel Core i5, and even Core i7 series processors from Intel. The Phenom II X6 is based on the 45 nm "Thuban" core, and comes in the socket AM3 package. The processor is said to be backwards-compatible with socket AM2+ on motherboards with a BIOS update. Expreview sourced pictures of three Phenom II X6 processor-in-box (PIB) units, of model 1055T.
Apart from a numerical boost in processor cores over the Phenom II X4, the Phenom II X6 brings in a landmark new feature for AMD, the Turbo Core technology. This new feature senses load on each of the processor cores, and adjusts each individual core's power-states and frequencies accordingly. Unlike with the comparable Intel Turbo Boost technology, AMD's Turbo Core tech gives the processor higher number of "Turbo" cores when the multi-threaded load is low. Turbo Boost does not require any special software to work, not even new drivers for any given OS. All its logic is embedded on-die.

Sensing low multi-threaded power load, Turbo Core powers down three of the six cores, while sending the three remaining cores into a "Boost state". In this state, the cores' clock-speed is boosted by up to 500 MHz (multiplier +2.5x). Throughout the Boost state, the processor stays within the processor's defined TDP. The processor leaves Boost state when it senses more multi-threaded power is needed. Following are slides from AMD's press-briefing where it specifically talked about Turbo Core:

Apart from Phenom II X6, Turbo Core technology will also be featured on Phenom II X4 900T "Zosma" series quad-core processors. These chips will offer two Boost-state cores.
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75 Comments on AMD Phenom II X6 PIB Units Pictured, Turbo Core Technology Detailed

#51
crazyeyesreaper
Not a Moderator
we shall see in due time anyway i find the results intresting but ill wait till real reviews are up
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#52
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
i think this chip came out just in time as im considering what my next build will be - I could well be going back to AMD if this chip pulls through - though I would want to see what the scores are like in direct comparison to a i7
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#53
enzolt
that 1055t is mine!!!
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#54
Radical_Edward
Just think of the PPD you'd get with crunching with one of these.... :D
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#55
crazyeyesreaper
Not a Moderator
as far as i know a 1055T seems to use the same wattage as a 965 BE C2 and has about the same heat lvls so a good cooler should allow these 6 core cpus to hit 3.6 or so on air which isnt bad when u think about it for for a locked chip thats speculation of course but cherry picked 940s can hit 4ghz and most PIIs have about 800mhz of clock speed in them so id say 2.8 = 3.6 average air overclock mileage may very
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#56
Unregistered
(FIH) The Donremember you need a MB with a G34 socket for that cpu
what the hell are you talking about, it's even still compatible with AM2+
#59
(FIH) The Don
wahdangunwhat the hell are you talking about, it's even still compatible with AM2+
if you looked above and saw the post then you would see WHAT is was talking about, relaxe!
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#61
(FIH) The Don
you shouldnt, i still find the new p55 platform one of the best atm, mainly because you can have either SLI or CF without changing MB as with the AMD boards youd have to get another board, and since AMD and Nvidia wont be doing work together on the new boards then that is not gonna happen and you restricted to crossfire only,
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#62
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
(FIH) The Donyou shouldnt, i still find the new p55 platform one of the best atm, mainly because you can have either SLI or CF without changing MB as with the AMD boards youd have to get another board, and since AMD and Nvidia wont be doing work together on the new boards then that is not gonna happen and you restricted to crossfire only,
yeah... who'd want SLI anyway, when the current cards are fermi?

i'm iffy on P55 due to it being PCI-E 1.0 only. screws up plans for USB3.0 add in cards, for one.
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#63
Kantastic
So can someone enlighten me as to what benefits 890FX has to offer over the current enthusiast AM3 platform 790FX? I just scored a UD5P for a very, very good deal (seriously, very good) and want to make sure I'm not making a mistake. ;)
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#64
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
KantasticSo can someone enlighten me as to what benefits 890FX has to offer over the current enthusiast AM3 platform 790FX?
Native SATA 6 Gb/s, built on 40 nm (cooler).
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#65
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
btarunrNative SATA 6 Gb/s, built on 40 nm (cooler).
and they tend to come with USB3.0 as well (even if its not part of the chipset natively)
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#66
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Musselsand they tend to come with USB3.0 as well (even if its not part of the chipset natively)
Yeah, most 890FX boards will have that NEC chip, and it will be wired to the 890FX NB (and not SB850), with a PCI-E 2.0 x1 link.

Also, naturally it will have higher future-proofing. Sure, recent 790FX boards will be able to support X6, X4T, but not what's next.
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#67
Kantastic
btarunrYeah, most 890FX boards will have that NEC chip, and it will be wired to the 890FX NB (and not SB850), with a PCI-E 2.0 x1 link.

Also, naturally it will have higher future-proofing. Sure, recent 790FX boards will be able to support X6, X4T, but not what's next.
What can possibly be next? I don't see AMD releasing native 8-12 core processors for AM3 anyway. That's going to be for Bulldozer which is on a different socket.

So if USB 3.0 is the only benefit then I guess I have nothing to lose by sticking with 790FX. I can always buy an add-in card for SATA/USB 3. :cool:

Thanks for the replies guys. :toast:
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#68
Imsochobo
waaaants.
Hope it works with am2+, so i get a smooth upgrade path :P
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#69
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
Imsochobowaaaants.
Hope it works with am2+, so i get a smooth upgrade path :P
the CPU will for sure, not sure about turbo mode or any other new features.
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#70
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
KantasticWhat can possibly be next? I don't see AMD releasing native 8-12 core processors for AM3 anyway. That's going to be for Bulldozer which is on a different
There is talk that Bulldozer will continue to run on the AMx socket.
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#71
Imsochobo
Musselsthe CPU will for sure, not sure about turbo mode or any other new features.
I've heard talks about yes and no, so confused, and all the working, and traveling stealing valuable research time :banghead:

the old PHII am2+ becomes a vmware esxi node like all my prev comps, wonder what i will run now. need better internet connection and maybe i can host more crap =)

Really the reason why i buy amd, cause i can add them to the esxi cluster =) got an intel for nas tho :P
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#72
Hayder_Master
(FIH) The Donyou shouldnt, i still find the new p55 platform one of the best atm, mainly because you can have either SLI or CF without changing MB as with the AMD boards youd have to get another board, and since AMD and Nvidia wont be doing work together on the new boards then that is not gonna happen and you restricted to crossfire only,
my friend six core now same price as my 860
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#73
theonedub
habe fidem
Musselsyeah... who'd want SLI anyway, when the current cards are fermi?

i'm iffy on P55 due to it being PCI-E 1.0 only. screws up plans for USB3.0 add in cards, for one.
Am I missing something? I don't think that is true.

EDIT: I see chipset lanes, my mistake.
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#74
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
Loving the blue color, but their boxes typically are more green with some gold and black, this is all bluey and I likey.
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#75
xtremesv
If the 2 additional cores scale 1:1 compared to the X4's and get enough OC room, then Intel's entry-level i7's will have some serious competition in the USD200-350 range not to mention that every i5 will be crushed (750 included).
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