Wednesday, June 30th 2010

GeForce GTX 460 to Come in Distinct Variants, Launch Date Surfaces

The much talked about upcoming GeForce GTX 460 GPU from NVIDIA was recently pictured and detailed. Out of its first, grainy pictures, it became clear that the GF104 core it's based on indeed supports a 256-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface, but that only six of its eight 32-bit wide channels were occupied (192-bit), yielding 768 MB of memory. Fresh reports suggest that NVIDIA indeed will release the GeForce GTX 460 in two variants, a 768 MB one, and a 1024 MB (1 GB). The 1 GB variant by design will be faster, even if an application doesn't need all its video memory, because it will have a wider 256-bit memory interface, that's 25% higher memory bandwidth. Both variants will have the same memory clock speed of 900 MHz (3600 MHz effective). The GF104 core will be clocked at 675 MHz on both models, with 336 CUDA cores. Built on the 40 nm process at TSMC, the GeForce GTX 460 768 MB will have a TDP of 150W, while the 1 GB model will have a TDP of 160W. New reports suggest that the 768 MB model will be priced at less than $200. NVIDIA will release the GeForce GTX 460 on the 12th of July.

Source: DonanimHaber
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35 Comments on GeForce GTX 460 to Come in Distinct Variants, Launch Date Surfaces

#1
sapetto
So which ATI card is this fighting against?
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#3
[Ion]
WCG Team Assistant
Sweet!
I could see getting the 786MB model if it's a decent bit faster than my GTX260
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#4
dr_dream
by: [Ion]
Sweet!
I could see getting the 786MB model if it's a decent bit faster than my GTX260
a decent bit faster than GTX260 ? so what's the point ? where's the improvement ?
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[Ion]
WCG Team Assistant
by: dr_dream
a decent bit faster than GTX260 ? so what's the point ? where's the improvement ?
What?

Assuming that the sub-$200 GTX460 is significantly faster than the GTX260 I already have, I could see getting it. If the difference is minimal, I'd likely save up and get something faster
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#6
slyfox2151
i dont think the GTX460 is that much faster then a 260 to warrent the upgrade... would be better to go the 470.



or maybe sell your 260 and get 2 x 460s.
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#7
toyo
I pretty much like how these all sound. Depending on benchmarks, this could be the car I will replace my trusty HD4850 with.
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#8
KieranD
I still think that the only upgrade that is worth doing from my GTX260 is the ATi 5850, seeing as its still a bit pricey for me personally i doubt that will happen anytime soon.

Id like to see the performance of a GTX260 compared to a GTX460 it must be better it cant just be slightly otherwise it would be useless.
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#9
Aleksander
I knew the launch date 2 weeks ago
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#10
punani
by: Aleksander Dishnica
I knew the launch date 2 weeks ago
Information like that could be sold for überdollars :D
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#13
phanbuey
cant wait for the 475...

but srsly... why are the prices on these still so damn high? :shadedshu

this really costs alot for the performance that it offers.
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#14
Roph
What's the point? This is just the FX 5000 series all over again.
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#15
Mussels
Moderprator
uggh, not another thing like this.


GTX 460 has two distinct models, one with a 192 bit bus one with 256 bit... and you bet your ass people are gunna get confused and wonder why their 192 bit card isnt as fast as a 256 bit card they found in a review
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#16
xtremesv
I believe 460 will be 10% to 15% faster than 260 and if it costs under $200, it'll be a winner. I think it’s historically normal that midrange cards don’t offer a big jump in performance compared to the previous generation, e.g.:

Nvidia: 7600GT – 8600GT-9600GT being the exception GTX260
ATi: X1650-HD2600-HD3650 being the exception HD4770

Just high-end performance cards offer 2 times the power of previous gen these days: 9800GTX-GTX285-GTX480 and HD3870-HD4870-HD5870
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#17
Mussels
Moderprator
by: xtremesv
I believe 460 will be 10% to 15% faster than 260 and if it costs under $200, it'll be a winner. I think it’s historically normal that midrange cards don’t offer a big jump in performance compared to the previous generation, e.g.:

Nvidia: 7600GT – 8600GT-9600GT being the exception GTX260
ATi: X1650-HD2600-HD3650 being the exception HD4770

Just high-end performance cards offer 2 times the power of previous gen these days: 9800GTX-GTX285-GTX480 and HD3870-HD4870-HD5870
one example falls apart there, nvidias highend went 8800GTX, 9800GTX (small leap/ slightly modified 8800GTS) GTX 280, then 285, then 295, then 480. there were many 'high end' cards released, and most of them didnt offer large boosts at all.

(ATI went 3870, 4870, 4890, 5870 - so there is also one card there with only a 'small' leap)
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#18
CounterZeus
by: xtremesv
I believe 460 will be 10% to 15% faster than 260 and if it costs under $200, it'll be a winner. I think it’s historically normal that midrange cards don’t offer a big jump in performance compared to the previous generation, e.g.:

Nvidia: 7600GT – 8600GT-9600GT being the exception GTX260
ATi: X1650-HD2600-HD3650 being the exception HD4770

Just high-end performance cards offer 2 times the power of previous gen these days: 9800GTX-GTX285-GTX480 and HD3870-HD4870-HD5870
8600GT to 9600GT was a big jump (almost double performance?)
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#19
Fourstaff
Why can't they just name it 460 for 192 bit and 461 for 256 bit instead to avoid confusion?
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#20
Mussels
Moderprator
by: Fourstaff
Why can't they just name it 460 for 192 bit and 461 for 256 bit instead to avoid confusion?
because this way, people read reviews on the 256 bit card and buy the cheap 192 bit card not knowing the difference. its the same old scam as DDR3 and DDR2 variants of cards (i recall that with 8600GT cards as the most recent example)
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#21
CounterZeus
by: Fourstaff
Why can't they just name it 460 for 192 bit and 461 for 256 bit instead to avoid confusion?
I'm also wondering how they'll avoid confusion, maybe naming it gts460 en gtx460?
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#22
Mussels
Moderprator
by: CounterZeus
I'm also wondering how they'll avoid confusion, maybe naming it gts460 en gtx460?
what makes you think they will, when they haven't previously?
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#23
CounterZeus
by: Mussels
what makes you think they will, when they haven't previously?
I just think it's unfair for all those people who don't know that the model with less memory also has a crippled memory bus :(
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#24
OnBoard
by: Mussels
uggh, not another thing like this.

GTX 460 has two distinct models, one with a 192 bit bus one with 256 bit... and you bet your ass people are gunna get confused and wonder why their 192 bit card isnt as fast as a 256 bit card they found in a review
At least this time the card with more memory is actually faster. Those that get the higher priced option get more value for money first time ever. We have 2GB and 4GB cards in ATI lineup that just consume more power and cost more for next to nothing in performance.

Just yeasterday in NFS World beta I heard a guy say why does thing game run so bad and I have a 1GB video card.. (had some old Pentium D and didn't bother to find out how old the graphics card was).

So 192bit against 5770 and 256bit against 5830? Propably the real world situation, but NVIDIA might think 5830-5850, as I though GTS 450 was coming against 5770.

Come to think of it, NVIDIA might replace whole GF100 lineup with these GF104s. GTX 460 1GB -> GTX 465, GTX 475 -> GTX 470 and dual gpu (460s) GTX 490 -> GTX 480. Then go for broke with GTX 495 that has two GTX 475s and beat 5970 :p
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#25
Aleksander
I learned that if i voltmod my 7600GS to 1.7 Volts, it will double clock speed. Normally i will benefit from this at 100% cuz the vram is ddr3, not ddr2 and what is more it is 80nm (latest modification)
I am really proud to have a card like this, cuz it competes 8600GS when overclocks to max. Normally my voltage is 1.1 which means it is totally stock. If only anyone could help me voltmod my 7600GS i am totally sure it will come up to 8800GT. Till now my card has beaten the 7600GT 90nm. The only difference between gs and gt 7600 is that gt is 1.3 volts and gs is 1.1
I think the real differences between the cards like 8600 or 9600 is the manufacturing technology lets people voltmod them higher.
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