Gonna test this out specifically for Overwatch

Worth to note that 6xx and 7xx series cards are dropped to legacy support on this driver release.

SlizzoWorth to note that 6xx and 7xx series cards are dropped to legacy support on this driver release.

Wow 7xx dropped already?! that is quite disappointing...

SlizzoWorth to note that 6xx and 7xx series cards are dropped to legacy support on this driver release.

In the patch notes it says that this had already happened with the 304/310 releases, and as far as I know the last Kepler update was just after TW3 was released.

Which is fine. The cards perform as they should.

Vayra86In the patch notes it says that this had already happened with the 304/310 releases, and as far as I know the last Kepler update was just after TW3 was released.

Which is fine. The cards perform as they should.

Yeah, patch notes do say that. Don't think it was widely reported until now.

I've installed the past few driver updates without issue as well. Not sure if I'm going to keep doing it now that it doesn't really effect me having only one GTX 780 now.

SlizzoI've installed the past few driver updates without issue as well. Not sure if I'm going to keep doing it now that it doesn't really effect me having only one GTX 780 now.

The past few updates install as far back as Fermi fine. They just don't do active optimizations for those boards anymore.

Supported: www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/102993/en-us

GeForce 900 Series:
GeForce GTX TITAN X, GeForce GTX 980 Ti, GeForce GTX 980, GeForce GTX 970, GeForce GTX 960, GeForce GTX 950

GeForce 700 Series:
GeForce GTX TITAN Z, GeForce GTX TITAN Black, GeForce GTX TITAN, GeForce GTX 780 Ti, GeForce GTX 780, GeForce GTX 770, GeForce GTX 760, GeForce GTX 760 Ti (OEM), GeForce GTX 750 Ti, GeForce GTX 750, GeForce GTX 745, GeForce GT 740, GeForce GT 730, GeForce GT 720, GeForce GT 710, GeForce GT 705

GeForce 600 Series:
GeForce GTX 690, GeForce GTX 680, GeForce GTX 670, GeForce GTX 660 Ti, GeForce GTX 660, GeForce GTX 650 Ti BOOST, GeForce GTX 650 Ti, GeForce GTX 650, GeForce GTX 645, GeForce GT 645, GeForce GT 640, GeForce GT 635, GeForce GT 630, GeForce GT 620, GeForce GT 610, GeForce 605

GeForce 500 Series:
GeForce GTX 590, GeForce GTX 580, GeForce GTX 570, GeForce GTX 560 Ti, GeForce GTX 560 SE, GeForce GTX 560, GeForce GTX 555, GeForce GTX 550 Ti, GeForce GT 545, GeForce GT 530, GeForce GT 520, GeForce 510

GeForce 400 Series:
GeForce GTX 480, GeForce GTX 470, GeForce GTX 465, GeForce GTX 460 SE v2, GeForce GTX 460 SE, GeForce GTX 460, GeForce GTS 450, GeForce GT 440, GeForce GT 430, GeForce GT 420

SlizzoWorth to note that 6xx and 7xx series cards are dropped to legacy support on this driver release.

The release notes says GeForce 6-series and GeForce 7-series not the 600-series and 700-series
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_7_series
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_6_series

Vayra86In the patch notes it says that this had already happened with the 304/310 releases, and as far as I know the last Kepler update was just after TW3 was released.

Which is fine. The cards perform as they should.

347.88 was the last active update for anything Kepler. It was a damned fine driver too!

rtwjunkie347.88 was the last active update for anything Kepler. It was a damned fine driver too!

Speaking of which, no issues to report with this driver for me yet. Granted, I've only played Elite: Dangerous but just thought I'd check in.

I'm wondering if we're seeing a trend of late-game quality here: I mean where NVIDIA's last driver before a new architecture is amongst the best for the former architecture. It would make sense, their understanding of the former architecture's quirks would be best at this point... And they haven't diverted their team largely to Pascal yet.

R-T-BSpeaking of which, no issues to report with this driver for me yet. Granted, I've only played Elite: Dangerous but just thought I'd check in.

I'm wondering if we're seeing a trend of late-game quality here: I mean where NVIDIA's last driver before a new architecture is amongst the best for the former architecture. It would make sense, their understanding of the former architecture's quirks would be best at this point... And they haven't diverted their team largely to Pascal yet.

Nvidia's driver policy has been that they work hard on the new released cards shortly after release, ever since Kepler. Fermi was only dropped a long time after Kepler launched. So they are definitely 'speeding it up' in that sense.

At least this is my take on it. We've seen Kepler get pretty big boosts through it's lifetime, I really wasn't surprised they were 'done' with it (up to the point that it started producing higher temps and even get a higher temp target for GPU boost). I also feel that with Maxwell and Pascal they are still on pretty much the same kind of arch. It have been refinements - dropping the active support earlier makes sense then.

rtwjunkie347.88 was the last active update for anything Kepler. It was a damned fine driver too!

353.50 was great too, best api overhead perf. so far.. next closest thing was 365.10.

luytenThe release notes says GeForce 6-series and GeForce 7-series not the 600-series and 700-series
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_7_series
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_6_series

intersting

nem..intersting

Those are legacy in the sense that they're not Nvidia's latest generation. You can see here: www.geforce.com/drivers which card has available drivers and when they were released. For example, I can find drivers for a 8600GT released this March for Windows, and last November for Linux. I'd say that's pretty good support.

bugThose are legacy in the sense that they're not Nvidia's latest generation. You can see here: www.geforce.com/drivers which card has available drivers and when they were released. For example, I can find drivers for a 8600GT released this March for Windows, and last November for Linux. I'd say that's pretty good support.

What other form of selective ignorance would you expect from TPU's greatest troll, Nem.

the54thvoidWhat other form of selective ignorance would you expect from TPU's greatest troll, Nem.

Is that the same Nem? If so, he's upped his game a little in posting both sides, looking at his post history...

The stupid pictures are his style though...

The 7xx are not yet legacy drivers, however they can be considered so, since after the 374.xx drivers they got 0 (zero) improvements, but a lot of throttling down in order to make the shity 970 much stronger and faster.

Prima.VeraThe 7xx are not yet legacy drivers, however they can be considered so, since after the 374.xx drivers they got 0 (zero) improvements, but a lot of throttling down in order to make the shity 970 much stronger and faster.

I'm still on 660Ti and I haven't noticed any form of "throttling down". In fact it's working so well, I didn't feel like paying for neither a GTX 760 nor a GTX 960.

bugI'm still on 660Ti and I haven't noticed any form of "throttling down". In fact it's working so well, I didn't feel like paying for neither a GTX 760 nor a GTX 960.

It's weird, people just hate on Nvidia for offering decent driver support from day one, no wonder drivers 6 months later are required.

They have to cut down the FPS of old cards to make new stuff look better.

jaggerwildThey have to cut down the FPS of old cards to make new stuff look better.

Yes, I know it's hip to keep repeating that. I have owned Nvidia for a long time and I tell you I never noticed this behaviour.

Edit: when switching drivers, I run 3DMark specifically to look for regressions. Never saw one that wasn't within the margin of error.

FluffmeisterIt's weird, people just hate on Nvidia for offering decent driver support from day one, no wonder drivers 6 months later are required.

Haters gonna......

jaggerwildThey have to cut down the FPS of old cards to make new stuff look better.

Self hating Nvidia owner....

bugYes, I know it's hip to keep repeating that. I have owned Nvidia for a long time and I tell you I never noticed this behaviour.

Edit: when switching drivers, I run 3DMark specifically to look for regressions. Never saw one that wasn't within the margin of error.

yup...

Review of 780ti from November 2013 on left and most recent GTX1080 review.... (2 1/2 years later).



Had to use 1080p as the other res's have changed over time.

Oh look, the 780ti has got worse over time... no wait - it hasn't...

the54thvoidOh look, the 780ti has got worse over time... no wait - it hasn't...

lol it actually improved. THE LOGIC OF IT!

bugThose are legacy in the sense that they're not Nvidia's latest generation. You can see here: www.geforce.com/drivers which card has available drivers and when they were released. For example, I can find drivers for a 8600GT released this March for Windows, and last November for Linux. I'd say that's pretty good support.

Old series can still have drivers of course Legacy mode still make fix alot things but too mean the optimization gone, the people reported the gimping, its not an mith.


www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1220928

Nvidia past generation GPUs aging terribly - version 2






And here are more. :/


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************ GIMP ALERT!!! **************
If you are running a Maxwell card, pay close attention.
Latest Nvidia drivers 365.19 look like they are gimping Maxwell cards
Proof:
Before updating drivers to 365.19
Prior to installing the new drivers, I ran some tests with 3DMark Firestrike Ultra 1.1
I was averaging around 7820-7837.
See results for details
www.3dmark.com/fs/8419939
www.3dmark.com/fs/8458151
After Updating to 365.19 my Firestrike Ultra scores have dropped by about 1000!!!
I ran 6 different steps (stock and overclocked) and I am averaging between 6200 - 6907
So far, I have been unable to break 7000 with the exact same config:
See and compare my results for yourselves
www.3dmark.com/fs/8458189
www.3dmark.com/fs/8458224
www.3dmark.com/fs/8458256
www.3dmark.com/fs/8458341
www.3dmark.com/fs/8458364
www.3dmark.com/fs/8458392
Note: This is only one test system, so we need more data to be sure. If you are running a Maxwell card, please run tests of your own, and compare with your previous Firestrike scores. I havent tried running Firestrike Extreme or other benchmarks as well, so it might be an issue with 4K only. I have reviewed my results many times over but can find no discernible difference in my config exccept for the change in drivers. Please review my results and feel free to point out any inconsistencies I might have missed. As I said we need more data .
If these drivers have been gimped, it is in everyones interest that this is discovered and exposed. Dont expect WCCFTech or any other tech journalists to do their homework. We are not the ones paying their bills.
Thanks for sharing your feedback.

Sigh, just because they aren't putting in performance improvements does not mean they are "gimping" the cards.