Tuesday, March 14th 2017

Microsoft Ending Vista Support April 11th, Says Few Older Computers Ready for 10

Windows Vista, an OS that faced large amounts of criticism in life, is finally being laid down to die. Whether the criticism was fair, whether it was a victim of its own faults or the faults of simply being too ahead of its time (a question that is still being hotly debated to this day), it matters not now: it's done. On April 11th, Microsoft is ending Windows Vista support.

If you still happen to be using the OS, you may want to consider upgrading. Running an older, unsupported OS is not recommended for general security reasons. The latest bugfixes and exploit patches will simply no longer be issued, and Microsoft will have nothing to do with the OS from this point forward.
In its farewell to Vista, Microsoft makes the obvious upgrade pathway clear: Windows 10. It then goes on to make the fairly bold claim that "Very few older computers are able to run Windows 10." Factually, this depends a lot on what you call "old" and perhaps even, what you consider "running." It may be true that some machines bought in the Vista Era may be sub-optimal for Windows 10, but not all, and most of them can probably run still "run it." As an example; this news writer is currently writing from a 1.8Ghz Core 2 Duo Panasonic CF-52 Toughbook with Intel Integrated Graphics and it runs Windows 10 fine. Actually, if you have a DirectX 9 capable CPU and around a gig or two of ram then there really aren't many machines in that class that can't run Windows 10. Obviously the more you put in, the more you get, but that is nothing new.

If this were an editorial, I would theorize that this is Microsoft attempting to push users into upgrading their hardware to a new prebuilt computer for their own benefit. But as this is not an editorial, I will leave that claim to you, the reader.

This post is simply a tech-funeral for Vista. The comments be what they may, Vista will soon be EOL'd. Do you have any fond memories of Vista, or absolutely hated moments you'd like to share? Do you think Microsoft is up to no good pushing PC upgrades, or did a weasel-word news editor just put that thought in your head? We'd love to hear all your Vista related thoughts, below.
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55 Comments on Microsoft Ending Vista Support April 11th, Says Few Older Computers Ready for 10

#1
xkm1948
Still have Windows Vista running on one of my VMs. Strangely I do like Vista's interface over both Windows 7 and 10.

I never understood why people hate Vista so much. It ran perfectly on my old build of Q6600 with 8GB of RAM, way better than XP.
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R-T-B
I remember blaming Vista for all my GPU issues, being too young to realize that the driver vendors were more to blame...

I also remember the old generic AHCI driver crashing constantly on my old ABIT motherboard with it's strange SATA setup... :laugh:
xkm1948Still have Windows Vista running on one of my VMs. Strangely I do like Vista's interface over both Windows 7 and 10.
I was kinda partial to it too, actually. I miss the glass effect even though it probably didn't help my early GPU woes any.
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#3
xkm1948
One of the best looking OS put out by MS for sure. I miss my Dreamscenes :(

I still remember the first time I saw Windows 8 on a PC in BestBuy. I felt MS fired all their talents who worked on Vista and hired a bunch of degenerates to make Windows 8.
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#4
R-T-B
Oh man, Dreamscene. I mean it used 20% of one of my whole dual core Phenom at the time, but it was pretty.
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#5
xkm1948
R-T-BOh man, Dreamscene. I mean it used 20% of one of my whole dual core Phenom at the time, but it was pretty.
I tired to get my then GF now wife's Macbook to run Vista as well as Dreamscene. It didn't end well. The drain on macbook's battery was amazing.
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#6
Steevo
R-T-BI remember blaming Vista for all my GPU issues, being too young to realize that the driver vendors were more to blame...

I also remember the old generic AHCI driver crashing constantly on my old ABIT motherboard with it's strange SATA setup... :laugh:



I was kinda partial to it too, actually. I miss the glass effect even though it probably didn't help my early GPU woes any.
This. I hated the get it across the line way MS handled the late BETA builds, many of the features that wre original selling points were thrown out to get the OS finished, that left it with a very lacking feel until the first service pack. Users finding that cheap and many expensive device manufacturers didn't know how to write drivers for a more secure grown up version of windows didn't help. Where manufacturers used to use parts of the OS that were exposed like a hole in a submarine they now found a more rigid matrix of do and don't and many were forced to eventually write better drivers. When is the last time a LAN or other driver caused a system crash?
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#7
R-T-B
SteevoThis. I hated the get it across the line way MS handled the late BETA builds, many of the features that wre original selling points were thrown out to get the OS finished, that left it with a very lacking feel until the first service pack. Users finding that cheap and many expensive device manufacturers didn't know how to write drivers for a more secure grown up version of windows didn't help. Where manufacturers used to use parts of the OS that were exposed like a hole in a submarine they now found a more rigid matrix of do and don't and many were forced to eventually write better drivers. When is the last time a LAN or other driver caused a system crash?
Oh man, OT but remember how bad device drivers were in the 9x era?

XP was like a hybrid between 9x kernel model (I can do anything I'm the device driver) and Vistas more sensible model (Why do you need this? I don't think so, device driver).

There's a reason XP and Vista both broke a lot more drivers than say, Vista to 7 or consequent OS upgrades.]

This thread is some kind of nostalgia-fest, heh.
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#8
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
I have one Vista laptop and an SSD I could put in it. Don't really want to blow $100 on Windows 10 for it because it is almost a decade old. At the same time, don't want to buy a new laptop either. Much conflict. Very uncertain. [insert Doge here]


Vista has been fine since SP1. Windows 7 and Windows 10 are still better. Windows 10 especially because of the fast booting.
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#9
evernessince
xkm1948Still have Windows Vista running on one of my VMs. Strangely I do like Vista's interface over both Windows 7 and 10.

I never understood why people hate Vista so much. It ran perfectly on my old build of Q6600 with 8GB of RAM, way better than XP.
Visually vista was good looking but under the hood it was a nightmare. There was an issue for awhile with vista where it was using double the RAM it was supposed to and is ultimately what lead most people to label it a resource hog.
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#10
m0nt3
I always liked Vista. I remember when it first came out, me and my buddy upgraded to it. He had all kinds of drivers issues with it on his 7900GT and my ATi X1900XTX was flawless. I really do miss those days sometimes. However, I like life here in arch linux land.
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#11
Melvis
Good bye Windows Vista you big pile of pooh!:nutkick: Bloated, slow, non responding POS, most Vista computers I just updated to 7 and that transformed the Computer completely! or installed XP that just put Vista performance to shame! No love lost here let me tell you over the thousands of PC's ive worked on with that crappy OS.
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#12
R-T-B
m0nt3I always liked Vista. I remember when it first came out, me and my buddy upgraded to it. He had all kinds of drivers issues with it on his 7900GT and my ATi X1900XTX was flawless. I really do miss those days sometimes. However, I like life here in arch linux land.
Arch linux and gentoo are like my mistress OS's... I install them whenever Windows frustrates me.
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#13
xkm1948
I am writing on Vista VM right now. Sadly this will also be Firefox last support version of Vista. Welp at least it will live inside my VM forever.
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#14
TheLostSwede
News Editor
Pre SP1 it was a slow turd, but it worked mostly fine after that as long as you had enough RAM. The problem was, most people didn't. And as mentioned, there were a lot of driver issues early on, but this is kind of par for course with Microsoft no? I'm not generally nostalgic about this stuff and Vista was just one of the not so great Windows versions to me.
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#15
R-T-B
TheLostSwedeI'm not generally nostalgic about this stuff and Vista was just one of the not so great Windows versions to me.
I'm nostalgic, but not necessarily how you think. I had a lot of pain in this era, but I always liked learning computers, and boy was it a time of learning.
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#16
MrGenius
Still gonna use it. Just like I still use XP. Just not for important stuff. Both are still good for what they're good for. I've got programs that will only run on one or the other...and not on 7 or 10.
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#17
XiGMAKiD
Never used Vista before as I jump straight to 7 from XP, so never experience the cause of all the hate
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#18
Readlight
TheLostSwedePre SP1 it was a slow turd, but it worked mostly fine after that as long as you had enough RAM. The problem was, most people didn't. And as mentioned, there were a lot of driver issues early on, but this is kind of par for course with Microsoft no? I'm not generally nostalgic about this stuff and Vista was just one of the not so great Windows versions to me.
yes my 2 gb pc always froze, that was annoying.
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#19
Hood
MelvisGood bye Windows Vista you big pile of pooh!:nutkick: Bloated, slow, non responding POS, most Vista computers I just updated to 7 and that transformed the Computer completely! or installed XP that just put Vista performance to shame! No love lost here let me tell you over the thousands of PC's ive worked on with that crappy OS.
That's my experience as well - good riddance! It used too many resources for most systems at the time, so slow that things like Windows Update required hours of waiting sometimes. Not fun. Also, Vista was the first widespread use of a 64 bit OS, and drivers were notoriously terrible, almost as bad as XP 64 bit.
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#20
Caring1
I had Vista home Premium and it ran fine after I upgraded the Ram from 1.5Gb to 4Gb.
Only used it for a year then jumped ship to W7, I still have the discs here, including a W7 upgrade disc that I wouldn't recommend as that was a nightmare and a clean install was much easier.
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#21
CounterZeus
I used vista for a long time on my gaming laptop I bought in 2007 (C2D T7200, 2GB RAM, X1900). It ran just fine for me, no performance improvements when running XP. Most people with severe issues was because they only had 1GB RAM.
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#22
londiste
xkm1948I never understood why people hate Vista so much. It ran perfectly on my old build of Q6600 with 8GB of RAM, way better than XP.
because the publicized minimum requirements were 512 megs of ram and intel wrangling microsoft's arms to get aero working on intel's (at that time abysmal) igpus.

technically, minimum requirements for windowses haven't changed since vista.
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#23
john_
Well, Vista had the almost perfect name, at least when thinking them in Greek. Because if you put an "s" in front of "Vista" and make it "sVista", well, "svista" translates literally to "erase them" in Greek. Still have a Vista Business here, using it on a virtual machine.
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#24
trog100
i have an old core 2 era lenovo thinkpad.. it had vista on it.. i put windows 10 on it and ditched the old hard drive.. it was like a new machine..

vista was slow and a resource hog without a doubt compared to windows 10..

trog
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#25
Naito
SP1 on was quite solid - used Vista happily for a few years. You can definitely notice the age when you go back to it...
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