Tuesday, August 20th 2019

NVIDIA 436.02 Installer Buggy, Always Installs GeForce Experience, No GDPR Consent

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btarunr
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NVIDIA today released its GeForce 436.02 WHQL Gamescom Special graphics drivers. You can read all about them here. The installer of these drivers appears to have a major bug that forces the installation of GeForce Experience without obtaining GDPR-compliant consent from the user. With the ratification of GDPR, NVIDIA driver installers present a selection screen right at the start of the installation, which lets users opt to install GeForce Experience (and give their GDPR consent in doing so), but a second option lets users decline GDPR consent, forcing the installer to install GeForce drivers without GeForce Experience. A bug with the installer of GeForce 436.02 WHQL disregards the user's choice at this screen, and installs GeForce Experience without the GDPR-mandated user-consent.

Making matters far worse is the fact that you cannot deselect GeForce Experience from the list of components in the Custom Install screen. The Custom Install list lets you make the installer skip installation of optional components that are otherwise installed by default in Express Install (GeForce Experience features in this list only if a user gives GDPR consent in the previous screen). We're hoping that this is a simple installer bug by NVIDIA, because anything worse would put the company in violation of EU privacy laws. We at TechPowerUp are in the final stages of developing a free utility that lets users take complete control over their NVIDIA graphics driver installation, called NVCleanstall. Using this software you may skip lot more optional components than what the NVIDIA Installer allows, such as Telemetry. Grab a beta version of NVCleanstall from here.

Update 16:27 UTC: NVIDIA has removed the 436.02 drivers from their website, and confirmed that this is a bug.

Update Aug 21st: The 436.02 drivers are available again, and the GeForce Experience install problem is fixed. Look for the suffix "-rp" in the file name to identify the fixed version.

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40 Comments on NVIDIA 436.02 Installer Buggy, Always Installs GeForce Experience, No GDPR Consent

#26
robert3892
NVIDIA notified me they are working on the issue and will reissue the driver once it is fixed.
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#27
_larry
This is why I have stuck with AMD...Their cards aren't the most powerful, but at least their drivers improve performance over time and I don't have to deal with this. :D
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#29
dicktracy
Download is not available anymore. Nvidia is probably releasing a fix.
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#30
ExV6k
I've had this issue with older driver packages as well. Please try installing the driver without an internet connection. As per my understanding, the installer seems to do some sort of checks with NVIDIA's servers and sometimes for whatever reason, it completely skips the part where it asks you whether you want GeForce Experience or not; this may be a server-side issue but for me, completely disconnecting the PC from internet has always been a viable. Hope this help!
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#32
erek
pretty unprofessional way to pull the driver. it's still in the list, but they removed the executable so it gives a 404 (small gripe i guess)
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#33
Fluffmeister
I just use GFE, installed the driver and moved on with my life.
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#34
RichF
xkm1948EU and its absurd law problems.

Seriously on one hand, EU screams about protection of privacy. On the other hand it moves to censor as much as it can regarding information. So weird.
Logical fallacy.

Tu quoque.
btarunr"Installing GeForce drivers without our data-mining app is crazy"
True. It violates the spirit of Windows 10.
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#35
thesmokingman
Agent_DWhile I've always been an AMD fan, I have to say their drivers continuously disappoint on the video front. I can't get a decent driver for the Radeon VII that fully works as intended, at least as far as wattman and clock speeds go. With 19.5.2 I can run my 2025/1200 overclock, but memory clock never drops down from 1200, with 19.8.1, the clock speeds drop when not in use as normal, but if I try to set any overclock value it automatically runs the card at 1650/850. After numerous full clean uninstalls and reinstalls, and even a Windows fresh install, it's just a buggy driver issue. That's just the easy stuff, not to mention the random times the memory clock gets locked at 350 or 500MHz and I have to reboot to fix it. While I hate ngreedia and their business practices, I sometimes consider going back because, well, "it just works", or at least that was my experience owning a 970/1060/1080/1080ti.
I've no problems like that on my VII, with that driver or the latest one. Are you using afterburner? As for it just works, nah NV has problems too, looks at mah Titan XP.
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#36
Sora
ExV6kI've had this issue with older driver packages as well. Please try installing the driver without an internet connection. As per my understanding, the installer seems to do some sort of checks with NVIDIA's servers and sometimes for whatever reason, it completely skips the part where it asks you whether you want GeForce Experience or not; this may be a server-side issue but for me, completely disconnecting the PC from internet has always been a viable. Hope this help!
nothing to do with it, there was an issue with the DisplayDriverExt.dll in the original package resulting in the selection from the first screen of the installer not being passed to the components part of the installer.
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#37
Agent_D
thesmokingmanI've no problems like that on my VII, with that driver or the latest one. Are you using afterburner? As for it just works, nah NV has problems too, looks at mah Titan XP.
I haven't used any third party software for overclocking it since I've gotten it, just wattman. I just did a full uninstall today and am going to see how it goes with another fresh install; hopefully the dice will roll better. Would just like to keep my 2025/1200 @ 1100mv and still have idle clocks, lol.
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#38
thesmokingman
Agent_DI haven't used any third party software for overclocking it since I've gotten it, just wattman. I just did a full uninstall today and am going to see how it goes with another fresh install; hopefully the dice will roll better. Would just like to keep my 2025/1200 @ 1100mv and still have idle clocks, lol.
Hmm... well I do use afterburner and set up profiles. I also added the powerplay play registry edit for 24000mhz/1400mhz core/mem clocks. It's working w/o issue. And with afterburner, I can check to see if any bad apps are calling for 3D acceleration on the desktop and disable it via RTSS.
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#39
thesmokingman
Agent_DI haven't used any third party software for overclocking it since I've gotten it, just wattman. I just did a full uninstall today and am going to see how it goes with another fresh install; hopefully the dice will roll better. Would just like to keep my 2025/1200 @ 1100mv and still have idle clocks, lol.
Btw, I just saw the patch notes on the new radeon driver.

AMD Radeon VII graphics card may experience elevated memory clocks at idle or on desktop.

drivers.amd.com/drivers/beta/Win10-64Bit-Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-2019-Edition-19.8.2-Aug26.exe
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#40
Agent_D
I actually saw that when I went to grab them also. Comically enough, I did a fresh install of Win 10 1903 and the memory clock issue isn't happening with the 19.8.2 drivers, though I did have a really stupid time with Radeon Chill trying to force itself on and having to spam the toggle key for it to get it to turn off.
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