Monday, January 18th 2021

Shuttle Announces Space-Saving Barebones For AMD Ryzen Processors

Some eight years after the last AMD-based Mini-PC from Shuttle, a second processor manufacturer is once again being incorporated into the company's own product line. As an initial model to revive this segment, Shuttle is supplying a robust 1.3-litre PC for AMD Ryzen processors with Socket AM4.

The first product with the model name XPC DA320 is a Barebone from the "XPC slim" family which measures just 4.3 cm. It features the standard design of the range, but also supports the latest AMD Ryzen CPUs in Socket AM4 and up to 32 GB of RAM. Like all Shuttle products in a 1.3-litre format, this solution is also regarded as particularly robust. The AMD Radeon graphics unit which is integrated into the processor works well with up to three UHD displays which can be connected via HDMI 2.0 and DisplayPort and used simultaneously.
The two Gigabit network cards and two COM ports are also advantageous for professional applications. In locations which are difficult to access, the remote power-on connection offers a real benefit because it allows the Mini-PC to be started remotely. The flat steel chassis does not take up much space and can be fixed on lots of surfaces with the VESA/wall mount which is also supplied. Approval for use in an ambient temperature of up to 50°C adds the finishing touch.

As well as a processor and RAM, the DA320 can also be equipped as you wish with a 2.5" drive and two M.2 modules. Typically WLAN in the M.2-2230 slot and a fast NVMe SSD in the M.2-2280 slot. USB and audio ports are available on the outside of the device.

The dual fan cooling system with efficient heat pipes and a 120 Watt external power adapter ensures reliability, even under heavy load.

Optionally available accessories are stands for vertical operation (PS02), a connecting cable for the remote power-on socket (CXP01), a WLAN/Bluetooth module (WLN-M), a VGA connecting cable (PVG01), a 19" rack mount (PRM01), a DIN-Rail mounting kit (DIR01) and an LTE kit (WWN03).

Shuttle's recommended retail price for the XPC Barebone DA320 is EUR 198.00 (ex VAT).

For more information, visit the product page.
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20 Comments on Shuttle Announces Space-Saving Barebones For AMD Ryzen Processors

#1
ixi
Good for AMD customers. Wondering for price, if 200euro, then neat :).
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#2
londiste
"Space-saving". Two vent holes on the flat side of the thing means you need to keep that side free and some space there.
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#3
Flanker
This is nice if the desk mini is not small enough
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#4
Spartoz
Nice little system, I wish it had a A520 chipset instead to support 4000 series APUs
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#5
ixi
SpartozNice little system, I wish it had a A520 chipset instead to support 4000 series APUs
Do you know where to buy apu 4xxx?
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#6
Chomiq
londiste"Space-saving". Two vent holes on the flat side of the thing means you need to keep that side free and some space there.
Except:
Its slim metal chassis comes with a VESA mount included
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#7
Spartoz
ixiDo you know where to buy apu 4xxx?
You can find them easily on eBay and Aliexpress for cheap :)
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#8
Chrispy_
Better late than never.
Where was this in 2017?!
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#9
Mysteoa
Chrispy_Better late than never.
Where was this in 2017?!
Zen1 was barely out, and you want companies to jump and make a product for questionable market space?
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#10
Zareek
I don't get why these companies make dual GLAN with Realtek controllers. I can't think of a scenario to use dual LAN where Realtek controllers are an acceptable compromise.

Router or any kind of networking appliance - Definitely not, strongly discouraged!
Small Server or Storage - Nope, too risky for most uses.
Networked computer vision system, or automation system with GLAN connected camera or networked connected I/O - Camera and I/O manufacturers will not support it, so no thanks.
Any business critical system where reliability is important enough for redundancy.

Is there something I am missing? Before anyone says teaming, again why bother with Realtek LAN? I know they have improved over the years and maybe they are much better than they used to be. That would need to be an insane improvement for me to trust them for anything I would use dual LAN for.
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#11
bug
londiste"Space-saving". Two vent holes on the flat side of the thing means you need to keep that side free and some space there.
I was thinking the same thing, I miss the days when my desktop actually sat on top of my desk and right under my monitor.
Also why waste the precious little space on not one, but two COM ports? I haven't missed those since I used to stick a mouse or a joystick in there.
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#12
Chrispy_
MysteoaZen1 was barely out, and you want companies to jump and make a product for questionable market space?
Alright, Zen1 was new then, but what about 2018, 2019, or 2020?

Zen2 in particular was the clearly better SFF option given that AM4 was mature at that point, Intel were suffering serious supply issues and terrible chipset launches whist Zen2 was on the far more power-efficient TSMC 7nm and compatible with older 300-series chipsets anyway.
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#13
londiste
Chrispy_Zen2 in particular was the clearly better SFF option given that AM4 was mature at that point, Intel were suffering serious supply issues and terrible chipset launches whist Zen2 was on the far more power-efficient TSMC 7nm and compatible with older 300-series chipsets anyway.
And By Zen2 you mean 4000-series that came out summer of 2020, right? :)
These are only compatible with 500-series chipsets, by the way.

This box in the story is 300-series chipset and geared towards 2000/3000 series APUs, so Zen+ at best (3400G).
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#14
Chrispy_
londisteAnd By Zen2 you mean 4000-series that came out summer of 2020, right? :)
These are only compatible with 500-series chipsets, by the way.

This box in the story is 300-series chipset and geared towards 2000/3000 series APUs, so Zen+ at best (3400G).
No I meant Zen2 3000-series desktop CPUs. The competition (Zotac ZBOX for example) was using Zen2 when it launched 18 months ago, pairing it with dGPUs.

Just wondering why it's taken shuttle this long to offer SFF on AM4, especially when the competition has been doing it with Zen1 and Zen+ since 2017. We're about to retire almost a dozen ZBOX machines used in smaller boardrooms, they're some flavour of Geforce 900-series and 1st-Gen Ryzen (R5 1500X, I believe, but don't quote me on that!)
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#15
Valantar
Chrispy_No I meant Zen2 3000-series desktop CPUs. The competition (Zotac ZBOX for example) was using Zen2 when it launched 18 months ago, pairing it with dGPUs.

Just wondering why it's taken shuttle this long to offer SFF on AM4, especially when the competition has been doing it with Zen1 and Zen+ since 2017. We're about to retire almost a dozen ZBOX machines used in smaller boardrooms, they're some flavour of Geforce 900-series and 1st-Gen Ryzen (R5 1500X, I believe, but don't quote me on that!)
Shuttle is a small niche manufacturer catering to mostly business and industrial markets. These are typically highly conservative markets and prioritize reliability above all else. It makes sense for them to be slow in adopting new tech - reflected in this using what is now an old chipset, and being geared toward two-year-old APUs. They probably have slim R&D budgets too, which would make moving to an entirely new platform (rather than iterating upon well established Intel platforms) much easier.
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#16
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
ZareekI don't get why these companies make dual GLAN with Realtek controllers. I can't think of a scenario to use dual LAN where Realtek controllers are an acceptable compromise.

Router or any kind of networking appliance - Definitely not, strongly discouraged!
Small Server or Storage - Nope, too risky for most uses.
Networked computer vision system, or automation system with GLAN connected camera or networked connected I/O - Camera and I/O manufacturers will not support it, so no thanks.
Any business critical system where reliability is important enough for redundancy.

Is there something I am missing? Before anyone says teaming, again why bother with Realtek LAN? I know they have improved over the years and maybe they are much better than they used to be. That would need to be an insane improvement for me to trust them for anything I would use dual LAN for.
Realtek is discorage on routers because most are based on FreeBSD and the Realtek drivers for FreeBSD are pretty bad. Though the latest release appears to be decent.

Every other use, Realtek should be fine. I manage several servers with Realtek NICs in them and never had a problem. Granted, those are Window servers.

Realtek gets a bad rap, they work just fine. The worst disadvantage is they rely more on the CPU, so CPU load is higher. They got a bad name back when CPU power was really limited, but now you can't even tell the difference in Task Manager with even a weak modern processor. But the reputation never went away.
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#17
bug
newtekie1Realtek gets a bad rap, they work just fine. The worst disadvantage is they rely more on the CPU, so CPU load is higher. They got a bad name back when CPU power was really limited, but now you can't even tell the difference in Task Manager with even a weak modern processor. But the reputation never went away.
Well, when you go Gigabit or higher, that can bite you pretty hard.
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#18
Chrispy_
ValantarShuttle is a small niche manufacturer catering to mostly business and industrial markets. These are typically highly conservative markets and prioritize reliability above all else. It makes sense for them to be slow in adopting new tech - reflected in this using what is now an old chipset, and being geared toward two-year-old APUs. They probably have slim R&D budgets too, which would make moving to an entirely new platform (rather than iterating upon well established Intel platforms) much easier.
I guess I just miss the days when Shuttle was consumer-focused. Built my first xpc in 1999 and it was a proprietary size, bleeding-edge i440BX motherboard.
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#19
bug
ValantarShuttle is a small niche manufacturer catering to mostly business and industrial markets. These are typically highly conservative markets and prioritize reliability above all else. It makes sense for them to be slow in adopting new tech - reflected in this using what is now an old chipset, and being geared toward two-year-old APUs. They probably have slim R&D budgets too, which would make moving to an entirely new platform (rather than iterating upon well established Intel platforms) much easier.
That used to be true maybe 30 years ago. These days businesses just lease their stations and couldn't care less about CPUs and chipsets. As long as it doesn't break every day and it can be replaced in a timely manner, they're fine.

What you do need to cater to bigger businesses, is volume. This is what I suspect held back Shuttle.
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#20
Zareek
newtekie1Realtek is discorage on routers because most are based on FreeBSD and the Realtek drivers for FreeBSD are pretty bad. Though the latest release appears to be decent.

Every other use, Realtek should be fine. I manage several servers with Realtek NICs in them and never had a problem. Granted, those are Window servers.

Realtek gets a bad rap, they work just fine. The worst disadvantage is they rely more on the CPU, so CPU load is higher. They got a bad name back when CPU power was really limited, but now you can't even tell the difference in Task Manager with even a weak modern processor. But the reputation never went away.
Like I said I can't speak for the newer Realtek controllers. That's because I avoid them like the plague. I do so because I've had so many negative experiences with them both in my personal and my professional life. They might not currently deserve the bad rap but they more than earned it in years past. It wasn't just about performance either. They had compatibility issues and stability issues as well.
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