Friday, March 25th 2022

Intel Core i9-12900KS Starts Selling on Newegg for $799

Intel started selling its new flagship desktop processor, the special edition Core i9-12900KS, on Newegg for USD $799. Based on the highest bins of the "Alder Lake-S" C0 silicon, the chip has the same configuration as the i9-12900K, with 8 P-cores, 8 E-cores, and 30 MB of L3 cache; but higher clock speeds. The chip offers maximum Turbo Boost frequencies of 5.50 GHz on the P-cores, compared to 5.20 GHz for the regular i9-12900K. The Newegg listing mentions the i9-12900KS to have the same power limits as the i9-12900K, with 125 W processor base power (PBP) and 241 W maximum turbo power (MTP), and not the previously reported 150 W PBP with 260 W MTP.

Update 20:50 UTC: And the listing on Newegg has vanished, which probably has to do with Intel's embargo ending only next week. Sales are supposedly starting not before April.
Sources: Newegg, momomo_us (Twitter)
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69 Comments on Intel Core i9-12900KS Starts Selling on Newegg for $799

#1
Tek-Check
Interesting. Let's see at the end of the year whether they sell more than 5950X.
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#2
Space Lynx
Astronaut
The Ultima Weapon!

This cpu + Arctic 420mm AIO would be a pretty fun combo if you had money to blow. lol
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#3
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
TPU review incoming...

Will be interesting to see just how much more performance can be extracted from these compared to the regular one.
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#4
Cutechri
I'm good with my 5.35 GHz ST processor, thank you lol
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#5
TheDeeGee
Who's crazy enough to buy from newegg after GNs video though?
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#6
HD64G
So, they dare to post that this pre-OCed CPU has the same TDP limits as the 12900K... :kookoo:
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#7
ratirt
With the right disclaimer put in place, they can say the TDP is 100W.
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#8
Chrispy_
I think Intel lost the GHz race when they made the Pentium 4.

Sure, Alder Lake is fast - it clocks high and it has great IPC, but since Pentium 4 nobody ever trusts Intel when they say "fastest" ever again because there are so many caveats.

For a start, will it beat a 64C/128T Threadripper Pro in Cinebench R23, and that's where the definition of "fastest" becomes important. The 4.5GHz 5800X3D is supposedly going to be 20% faster than the 12900K in select games. So there we have it, it won't be the fastest for productivity and it won't be the fastest for gaming. It'll be the fastest at some things, but that's what's so dumb about those claims. Fastest in Photoshop? Fastest in single-threaded synthetic benchmarks?

I really like Alder Lake but I wish Intel would focus on its strengths (the Heterogeneous architecture) and not just crank stupid voltages through Golden Cove cores for the sake of dumb marketing stunts. The future is in lower-power devices (Laptops are still outselling desktops 5-to-1, and phones are outselling laptops by similar margins) so we don't want 241W chips that fall off the efficiency cliff for that last 2%. How about a 6P+32E core solution that runs in the same power envelope as an M1 Ultra?
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#9
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
TheDeeGeeWho's crazy enough to buy from newegg after GNs video though?
I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. It's clear that this was company policy.
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#10
ThrashZone
Hi,
I must have missed the newegg thing
Was it the bundling with exploding gigabyte psu's thing ?

Bottom line this is just a pushed early drop before amd 5800x3d release so price doesn't look anymore silly than it already does at 800.us typical intel lol
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#11
windwhirl
TheDeeGeeWho's crazy enough to buy from newegg after GNs video though?
Basically anyone that doesn't do much research before buying.
Chrispy_Sure, Alder Lake is fast - it clocks high and it has great IPC, but since Pentium 4 nobody ever trusts Intel when they say "fastest" ever again because there are so many caveats.
... A lot of people either forgot about that or weren't around for it.

Also, my previous statement applies too. Either you do your research and buy something that fits your needs within your budget (whether that budget is a bunch of coins and gum in your pocket or a number followed by ten zeroes isn't important), or you don't do your research and buy whatever.
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#12
Metroid
Chrispy_I think Intel lost the GHz race when they made the Pentium 4.

Sure, Alder Lake is fast - it clocks high and it has great IPC, but since Pentium 4 nobody ever trusts Intel when they say "fastest" ever again because there are so many caveats.

For a start, will it beat a 64C/128T Threadripper Pro in Cinebench R23, and that's where the definition of "fastest" becomes important. The 4.5GHz 5800X3D is supposedly going to be 20% faster than the 12900K in select games. So there we have it, it won't be the fastest for productivity and it won't be the fastest for gaming. It'll be the fastest at some things, but that's what's so dumb about those claims. Fastest in Photoshop? Fastest in single-threaded synthetic benchmarks?

I really like Alder Lake but I wish Intel would focus on its strengths (the Heterogeneous architecture) and not just crank stupid voltages through Golden Cove cores for the sake of dumb marketing stunts. The future is in lower-power devices (Laptops are still outselling desktops 5-to-1, and phones are outselling laptops by similar margins) so we don't want 241W chips that fall off the efficiency cliff for that last 2%. How about a 6P+32E core solution that runs in the same power envelope as an M1 Ultra?
no reviews yet on the 5800xv3d, amd said 15%-20%, some people leaked 9% overall. So that means intel is faster on single thread yet and with around 2x more power on multithread, it loses badly to amd, I have a 5900x and only a 20% ipc rock solid will make me upgrade. Let's see what zen4 will bring us. I would not touch on this 12900ks, too expensive and still a furnace.
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#13
ratirt
Metroidno reviews yet on the 5800xv3d, amd said 15%-20%, some people leaked 9% overall. So that means intel is faster on single thread yet and with around 2x more power on multithread, it loses badly to amd, I have a 5900x and only a 20% ipc rock solid will make me upgrade. Let's see what zen4 will bring us. I would not touch on this 12900ks, too expensive and still a furnace.
Squeezing some more performance. 12900KS sounds ok but as usual it's pushed so much. Binned processor. I wonder, if the 12900K can achieve these frequencies. Probably not if these are binned for purpose like best silicon goes as 'KS'
The 3d cache is for games mostly. with your 5900x i dont think it will be much of an improvement across the board. I'd stick to 5900X if i were you. Got a 5800X and I'm not sure if I will jump on the 3dcache wagon. I need to see some benchmarks, price and maybe heat output. It's a new stuff you never know.
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#14
napata
HD64GSo, they dare to post that this pre-OCed CPU has the same TDP limits as the 12900K... :kookoo:
In theory it's possible that it draws even less. What do you think binning is?
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#15
ThrashZone
Hi,
Intel always trolls amd with best gaming performance so amd doing it and if true it will be sweet :laugh:
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#16
ppn
No such item is visible now. combo offers of the KF plus MB at this price. But I would prefer the I9-16900KS only two years away on the 18A node. Must resist. Oh and they accept crypto. I don't care about the return policy, especially on a cpu.
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#17
Unregistered
CutechriI'm good with my 5.35 GHz ST processor, thank you lol
Lucky! My 5950x doesn't even see 5GHz any more. :shadedshu:

Don't know if it's AGESA or something else. I'm going to try it in another board to see if it's a MB issue. :(
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#18
Cutechri
weekendgeekLucky! My 5950x doesn't even see 5GHz any more. :shadedshu:

Don't know if it's AGESA or something else. I'm going to try it in another board to see if it's a MB issue. :(
Which AGESA are you on? I'm still on 1.2.0.3C after reports of the latest ones being kinda bad.
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#19
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CutechriWhich AGESA are you on? I'm still on 1.2.0.3C after reports of the latest ones being kinda bad.
I went back at 1.2.0.3B after trying the latest beta for my board (1.2.0.6c). I was at 1.2.0.5 when I noticed the drop. Still topping out at 4.9ish. (this is all non-pbo - I was seeing 5050-5100 before)

I might have been interested in the 12900ks if it had been in the $650-700 range. I have a spare z690 that I'll lose money on if I try to sell it, so it would have been fun to play with. $800 is too rich for me.
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#20
FeelinFroggy
TheDeeGeeWho's crazy enough to buy from newegg after GNs video though?
While I am not a Newegg "apologist" and I did follow the fiasco at Gamers Nexus, but I have been purchasing components from Newegg for years and never had an issue.

That's just my experience though and I am sure others have had terrible problems. The issue is there are few places to go that have the amount SKUs that Newegg does.
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#21
ThrashZone
Hi,
Kind of funny
AMD people posting on a intel thread and intel people posting on amd thread :laugh:
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#22
Unregistered
ThrashZoneHi,
Kind of funny
AMD people posting on a intel thread and intel people posting on amd thread :laugh:
Hi,

If you're talking about me, I'm neither. (what's and amd person or an intel person anyway?). I have a 12700k and a 5950x sitting right next to each other.
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#23
Turmania
TheDeeGeeWho's crazy enough to buy from newegg after GNs video though?
I have not watched GN after the EVGA brickin controversy and their biased views depending on sponsors. So what is it about?
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#24
ir_cow
HD64GSo, they dare to post that this pre-OCed CPU has the same TDP limits as the 12900K... :kookoo:
1.35V TDP will still be equal among any 12900K/S. However if its binned well enough you don't need that much voltage for 5.5GHz. In theory the KS should lighter on the voltage to overclock overall. In practice, maybe?
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#25
skizzo
FeelinFroggyWhile I am not a Newegg "apologist" and I did follow the fiasco at Gamers Nexus, but I have been purchasing components from Newegg for years and never had an issue.

That's just my experience though and I am sure others have had terrible problems. The issue is there are few places to go that have the amount SKUs that Newegg does.
it was blown out of proportion. I take the same stance as you, Newegg made a handful of mistakes and I don't defend them for those mistakes, but my experiences have been normal, no issues. but anyone who thinks there was some nefarious company policy to fuck over their customers is just looking for stuff to be outraged over. Steve tried to act like he was doing it help the business and there for the tech community but christ he did it bc he was infuriated over his treatment, meaning it WAS personal. he laid on the I want to help you guys routine pretty thick. I mean, imagine how god damn mad you have to be to think you could just show up on a corporate campus during a pandemic and demand to see top executives all while filming it....this was their literal plan until Newegg gave them some options/limits to their requests and they agreed on terms of the meeting(s). he threw a tantrum, and then wanted to be seen as a moderator to help everyone both company and customers......I think he was trying to save face as not being seen as a millennial whine ass.
TurmaniaI have not watched GN after the EVGA brickin controversy and their biased views depending on sponsors. So what is it about?
he bought a open box motherboard, by time it arrived he didn't need it so sent it back. key point here is he didn't even open the shipping box let alone the retail box. his RMA was denied due to RMA tech stating bent pints and/or thermal paste in socket. he proceeds to flip out over their shoddy customer service so publicly flogs them with several videos. read above for some of the insane thought process they had here. in the long run it showed some returns were not getting inspected and/or allocated appropriately as working or damaged. in reality he was sent a broken motherboard from the start so it was unfair to not accept the RMA for this reason. but I don't think he handled it professionally. you can argue sure Newegg wasn't professional so why should they get better treatment? two wrongs don't make a right sorta thing here. frankly, the ppl they met acted very professional, transparent as possible, and I think honestly cared about the groups shortcomings. Steve complains they didn't share enough, all while steve doesnt offer any evidence of "all the fans who sent in emails" about their own similar situations. it should really help both the company and customers in the long run, but it was handled like a shitty soap opera as far as the drama went
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