Sunday, July 31st 2022

Intel Core i5-13600K and Core i7-13700K QS CPUs Benchmarked

Is there anything better than yet another benchmark leak of upcoming products? This time around we don't have to make do with Geekbench or some other useless benchmark, as a bilibili user in the PRC has posted a video where he has put the upcoming Intel Core i5-13600K and Core i7-13700K CPUs through 10 different games, plus 3DMark Fire Strike and Time Spy. This has been done at 1080p, 1440p and 2160p at that, using a GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics card. Both CPUs are QS or Qualification Samples, which means they're going to be close to identical to retail chips, unless there are some last minute issues that are discovered. The CPUs were tested using an ASRock Z690 Steel Legends WiFi 6E motherboard, well, two actually, as both a DDR4 and a DDR5 version were used. The DDR4 RAM was running at 3600 MHz with slow-ish timings of 18-22-22 in gear 1, whereas the DDR5 memory was running at 5200 MHz, most likely at 40-40-40 timings, although the modules were rated for 6400 MHz, in both cases we're looking at 32 GB.

Courtesy of @harukaze5719, we have some much easier to read graphs than those provided by the person that tested the two CPUs, but we've included the full graphs below as well. Each CPU was compared to its current SKU equivalent from Intel and in many of the games tested, the gain was a mere percent or less to three or four percent. However, in some games—at specific resolutions—especially when paired with DDR5 memory, the performance gain was as much as 15-20 percent. A few of the games tested, such as FarCry 6 at 4K, the game ends up being GPU limited, so a faster CPU doesn't help here as you'll see in the graphs below. There are some odd results as well, where the DDR5 equipped systems saw a regression in performance, so it's hard to draw any final conclusions from this test. That said, both CPUs should offer a decent performance gain, as long as the game in question isn't GPU limited, of around five percent at 1440p when paired with DDR5 memory.
Sources: bilibili video, bilibili graphs, @harukaze5719 graphs
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84 Comments on Intel Core i5-13600K and Core i7-13700K QS CPUs Benchmarked

#51
ratirt
The mins in some cases are fantastic. I like it :D
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#52
ir_cow
nguyenlet hope W1zzard will use RTX4090 to test these next gen CPUs :d
First NVIDIA has to release it. Who will be first to the market is the real question.
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#53
InVasMani
TheLostSwedeCheck the two graphs with individual results from the person that did the tests, they read 5200.
Yes I didn't notice there were another two additional graphs in the full article initially and two of them list 5600 the other two list 5200. You don't actually see the 5200 charts on the main page and can't cycle between to those charts with the arrow keys unless you click the read full article and click on one. It's easy enough mistake to not spot after a tiring day. I didn't actually notice there were 4 charts in total at first and saw the other two after and figured you must've been referencing the other two of four charts clearly.
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#55
Crackong
Why_Mei7 13700K @ 6GHz w/ MSI Mini-ITX Z690I Unify
1. The video shows 5.9GHz, not 6GHz
2. The video shows 8P and 8 threads only.
3. The CPU is running at 1.445 vcore

Conclusion: He is running the CPU with HT and E-cores turned off and very high voltage, and maybe a chiller in order to do 5.9
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#56
ir_cow
Why do I feel like this 6Ghz thing is a single core XOC type deal.
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#57
Melvis
So....5% on average better? o.k....nothing to much to write home about considering there should be a bigger leap in average FPS from AM4 to 5? and the 5800X3D is doing a great job compared to ADL
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#58
Why_Me
MelvisSo....5% on average better? o.k....nothing to much to write home about considering there should be a bigger leap in average FPS from AM4 to 5? and the 5800X3D is doing a great job compared to ADL
The 5800X3D looks to be doing ok for AMD peeps who are upgrading but Alder Lake looks to be the one peeps are going for when doing a new build.
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#59
InVasMani
AMD moar cores/chips...Intel moar watts/cost!
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#60
Why_Me
InVasManiAMD moar cores/chips...Intel moar watts/cost!
Kind of like how AMD is bending poor folks over a stump with Zen 4 not supporting DDR4?
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#61
ir_cow
Why_MeKind of like how AMD is bending poor folks over a stump with Zen 4 not supporting DDR5?
DDR5 is about it get a lot cheaper.
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#62
Why_Me
ir_cowDDR5 is about it get a lot cheaper.
When?
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#63
InVasMani
ir_cowDDR5 is about it get a lot cheaper.
Not to mention we have yet to see how 3Dstacked cache will work in tandem with DDR5, but we saw how it worked with DDR4 so if there is carry over on the cache negating the need for expensive memory that's huge just grab a cheaper kit of DDR5 and/or higher capacity kit of it and worry less about performance degradation from a weaker memory kit that costs less or a higher capacity kit with weaker timings either way it's good perk if it carries over.
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#64
Why_Me
InVasManiNot to mention we have yet to see how 3Dstacked cache will work in tandem with DDR5, but we saw how it worked with DDR4 so if there is carry over on the cache negating the need for expensive memory that's huge just grab a cheaper kit of DDR5 and/or higher capacity kit of it and worry less about performance degradation from a weaker memory kit that costs less or a higher capacity kit with weaker timings either way it's good perk if it carries over.
Meanwhile back in reality there's no such thing as a cheap DDR5 kit atm. There's plenty of gamers not located in the EU, US, etc ... who are going to be priced out when looking at a Zen 4 build. No doubt DDR5 will eventually reach a respective price but until that happens AMD can kiss off the budget builds.
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#65
InVasMani
Why_MeMeanwhile back in reality there's no such thing as a cheap DDR5 kit atm. There's plenty of gamers not located in the EU, US, etc ... who are going to be priced out when looking at a Zen 4 build. No doubt DDR5 will eventually reach a respective price but until that happens AMD can kiss off the budget builds.
A 2x16GB kit of DDR5 4800 is cheaper than DDR4 4800 right now with effectively better or near identical timings and less voltage. The CL is higher, but the bandwidth is double if cut the bandwidth in half and CL in half they pretty much are evenly matched and slightly better sub timings on the DDR5 kit. Tell me again about reality though. Same general performance way cheaper and more energy efficient.

www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820236826?quicklink=true
vs
www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374290?quicklink=true
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#66
Why_Me
InVasManiA 2x16GB kit of DDR5 4800 is cheaper than DDR4 4800 right now with effectively better or near identical timings and less voltage. The CL is higher, but the bandwidth is double if cut the bandwidth in half and CL in half they pretty much are evenly matched and slightly better sub timings on the DDR5 kit. Tell me again about reality though. Same general performance way cheaper and more energy efficient.

www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820236826?quicklink=true
vs
www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374290?quicklink=true
You think gamers on a budget are looking at a set of $230 RAM?

www.amazon.com/dp/B08PJNVWNZ/
TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 3200 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 $50.99
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#67
TheLostSwede
News Editor
InVasManiYes I didn't notice there were another two additional graphs in the full article initially and two of them list 5600 the other two list 5200. You don't actually see the 5200 charts on the main page and can't cycle between to those charts with the arrow keys unless you click the read full article and click on one. It's easy enough mistake to not spot after a tiring day. I didn't actually notice there were 4 charts in total at first and saw the other two after and figured you must've been referencing the other two of four charts clearly.
Yeah, sorry about that, but there wasn't enough space for four pictures on the front page.
Why_MeYou think gamers on a budget are looking at a set of $230 RAM?

www.amazon.com/dp/B08PJNVWNZ/
TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 3200 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 $50.99
DDR5 is slowly coming down and although you can't get 16 GB of DDR5 for $51 here, it's going for the equivalent of $67, if you don't mind 4800 MHz modules.
24h.m.pchome.com.tw/prod/DSAJ3F-A900F7XHR-000
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#68
Why_Me
TheLostSwedeYeah, sorry about that, but there wasn't enough space for four pictures on the front page.


DDR5 is slowly coming down and although you can't get 16 GB of DDR5 for $51 here, it's going for the equivalent of $67, if you don't mind 4800 MHz modules.
It's coming down but until it gets reasonable along with cheaper DDR5 boards those builds are going to be off limits for a lot of peeps looking to break into PC gaming and / or new builds.

I believe this is the cheapest DDR5 board atm although I could be wrong.

www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A/Overview
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#69
TheLostSwede
News Editor
Why_MeIt's coming down but until it gets reasonable along with cheaper DDR5 boards those builds are going to be off limits for a lot of peeps looking to break into PC gaming and / or new builds.

I believe this is the cheapest DDR5 board atm although I could be wrong.

www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B660M-MORTAR
There will be some very affordable AM5 boards, maybe not sub $150 for now, but sub $200 for sure.

But yes, if you're on a tight budget, you're not going to jump on AM5 on day one.
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#70
InVasMani
I'll be happy if you can get decent board for $175-$200 honestly. I don't consider DDR5 too bad in some cases today there is room for improvement, but time for it as well. By the holiday season I suspect DDR5 will be looking better and better hopefully. It's hard to say given supply and demand. At least there are options and if AMD follows thru on some additional 3Dstacked Zen 3 options plenty of people will have options even if supply of DDR5 gets rather testy.
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#71
ir_cow
Why_MeWhen?
When AM5 comes out. Because the shift to DDR5 will push for higher production. Thus cheaper to produce. Once Intel 14th Gen comes and DDR4 is gone, that when the prices will considerably drop I think.
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#72
Unregistered
fevgatosYou can't read the reviews my man. Also he is not testing at same wattage. You can't compare architectural efficiency at different wattages.
You should read the review, there is an efficiency part, and it is clear that Zen is more efficient.
Testing at the same wattage doesn't make any sense, as different architectures have different efficiency curves. As such the way they do it at TPU is more representative.
#73
fevgatos
Xex360You should read the review, there is an efficiency part, and it is clear that Zen is more efficient.
Testing at the same wattage doesn't make any sense, as different architectures have different efficiency curves. As such the way they do it at TPU is more representative.
Do i have to waste time replying cause you cant understand what you are seeing on a graph? The performance numbers you quoted are from a variety of tests, including single thread tests. Then the power consumption you are quoting is from cinebench. Dont you see the problem?

Testing at the same wattage doesnt make any sense? Really? Is that how you test fans and coolers as well? Dont you normalise for noise first in order to determine which cooler has the best performance to noise ratio? Of course you do. Well that's what you should with cpus as well.
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#74
qcmadness
fevgatosDo i have to waste time replying cause you cant understand what you are seeing on a graph? The performance numbers you quoted are from a variety of tests, including single thread tests. Then the power consumption you are quoting is from cinebench. Dont you see the problem?

Testing at the same wattage doesnt make any sense? Really? Is that how you test fans and coolers as well? Dont you normalise for noise first in order to determine which cooler has the best performance to noise ratio? Of course you do. Well that's what you should with cpus as well.
According to TPU tests on efficiency, the "efficient cores" are only on par with Zen 3 cores.
Unless Zen 4 cores are less efficient, and / or RaptorLake "efficient cores" are much more efficient, otherwise your theory is not correct.
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#75
fevgatos
qcmadnessAccording to TPU tests on efficiency, the "efficient cores" are only on par with Zen 3 cores.
Unless Zen 4 cores are less efficient, and / or RaptorLake "efficient cores" are much more efficient, otherwise your theory is not correct.
I wasn't talking about the Ecores, the golden cove cores (p cores) are way more efficient than ecores
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