nice native quad core. now if they can get the phenoms up in normal time.

I wonder what socket they will be.

probably F socket

a111087probably F socket

nope. am3. amd announced that they will be reverse-compatible with am2.

Random Murderernope. am3. amd announced that they will be reverse-compatible with am2.

What, even with these pre-"consumer" release workstation and server orientated Opterons?

That kind of defeats their tried and tested release model :/ I really hope they know what they're doing ... where's the incentive for non-professionals to wait for non-professional orientated processors?

So basically their early professional-orientated Opterons are exactly the same as the non-professionally orientated processors. They're just literally rebranded processors. So not even ECC memory, or more HT links? Does this mean that we'll basically (as non-professionals) be able to scale these processors linearly with appropriate mainboards?

Edit: Didn't mean to thank you. Clicked on the wrong darned button.

Edit #2: Coming to thing about it, this is brilliant news for customers. No longer needing to pay for enterprise hardware ... Sun Microsystems out of business in 5, 4, 3 ... :P

what about 64bit?

I think/hope it's native quad-core, and was supposed to be x86-64, but who knows, maybe AMD is planning on doing a completely turn around saying, "Y'know what? Fuck 64-bit"
After that, they then shoot down ATi, and go off to hang themselves.

Either that or it could just be a typo. Who knows.

4 cores. 32 bit?

im thinking the same ... only 32 bit?? no 64 bit?

defiantly 64 bit compatible.....considering they have 64 bit compatible cpus out now. this is good news......something to finally compete with kentsfield, competition only benfits the consumer :toast:

Technically the 64bit we all know and love is a form of x86. More specifically called, x86-64.

However marketing people like to call it X64, AMD64 (Even though AMD did "invent" it), and INTEL 64 which was previously called EM64T.

thats cool, don't have to buy another mobo :)

Random Murderernope. am3. amd announced that they will be reverse-compatible with am2.

It's actually AM2+, AM3 will have DDR3 support.

error_f0rceAMD announced today that Quad-Core AMD Opteron™ processors, code-named “Barcelona,” are planned for shipment in both standard and low power versions at launch later this summer. This would be the first time AMD has made both standard and low power parts immediately available as part of a new processor launch.

During this first launch, processor speeds are expected to be available up to 2.0 GHz.

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Source: AMD.com

Thank freaking goodness hope this turns out alright AMD has had a hard way to go lately.

So does this mean it will work in my mobo!?!?!

You can answer that question by asking yourself if your motherboard is AM2. If the answer is yes, the other answer is yes.

ChaoticBlanknessIt's actually AM2+, AM3 will have DDR3 support.

Actually, Barcelona is Socket 1207, not AM2+. Budapest is the chip for desktops.

rybotoActually, Barcelona is Socket 1207, not AM2+. Budapest is the chip for desktops.

I thought someone was being somewhat overly optimistic ;)

I've just gone to an AMD rig and finding it way better than my Intel P4.
Hope fully AMD do a good job of this CPU and beat the Intel C2D.

I have the feeling that with every news about Barcelona people start comparing it to C2D and I end up saying that Barcelona is no a desktop product and therefor it is pointless to compare it.

DanTheBanjomanI have the feeling that with every news about Barcelona people start comparing it to C2D and I end up saying that Barcelona is no a desktop product and therefor it is pointless to compare it.

Its all people know ;)

DanTheBanjomanI have the feeling that with every news about Barcelona people start comparing it to C2D and I end up saying that Barcelona is no a desktop product and therefor it is pointless to compare it.

Just because it's a server part, doesn't mean we can't compare. The Xeons use the same Core 2 arch that the C2D's use. The Barcelona chips are the same K10 arch that will go into the desktop, so why can't we test them against each other?

rybotoJust because it's a server part, doesn't mean we can't compare. The Xeons use the same Core 2 arch that the C2D's use. The Barcelona chips are the same K10 arch that will go into the desktop, so why can't we test them against each other?

is why.

May I draw your attention to the part labeled #2.

Also known as a 256bit memory bus.

rybotoJust because it's a server part, doesn't mean we can't compare. The Xeons use the same Core 2 arch that the C2D's use. The Barcelona chips are the same K10 arch that will go into the desktop, so why can't we test them against each other?

Like Dippy said, it's a different platform. Different chipset, different memory subsystem. Who cares if the server platform beats the competitions desktop platform?

DanTheBanjomanLike Dippy said, it's a different platform. Different chipset, different memory subsystem. Who cares if the server platform beats the competitions desktop platform?

I care, because it's the K10, it's going to come to the desktop, so why not compare it?