Thursday, June 19th 2008
NVIDIA Gently Intros GeForce 9800 GTX+
AMD today took a major point for the red team by positioning its brand new ATI Radeon HD 4850 cards between NVIDIA's GeForce 9 series and GTX 200 series cards. The all new HD 4850 cards beat NVIDIA's GeForce 9800 GTX while also maintaining the very reasonable MSRP of $199. Currently NVIDIA has no card that can compete in this category, but that's eventually going to change in mid-July, when the company will announce a new mid-range video card dubbed GeForce 9800 GTX+. The card will be idential to GeForce 9800 GTX from the outside, but from the "inside" it will use a smaller and more efficient 55 nanometer GPU with increased default clock/shader speeds: from 675MHz to 738MHz and from 1688MHz to 1836MHz respectively. Memory speeds for this card will be dropped slightly to 1GHz (1100MHz for GeForce 9800 GTX). Other than that the card is virtually the same as GeForce 9800 GTX, the three-way SLI support also remains untouched. NVIDIA expects to start offering GeForce 9800 GTX+ with a MSRP of $229. The company also plans to drop the price of the 65nm GeForce 9800 GTX to $199.
First card is Leadtek 9800GTX, second one is GeForce 9800 GTX+
Source:
bit-tech.net
First card is Leadtek 9800GTX, second one is GeForce 9800 GTX+
137 Comments on NVIDIA Gently Intros GeForce 9800 GTX+
- Christine
I motion that this smilie be added to our smilie arsenal here at TPU! :toast:
back OT - this is a smart move on nVidia's part, but even if these new cards are in the same ballpark for performance that the 4850 is, I forsee ATI dropping their price even lower as the 4870s are filling stock. With how the HD4000 series is stanced right now to really take it to nVidia's front door, ATI are going to be willing to go extreme in their tactics and marketing again.
Watch . . . the 4850 will drop in price from it's current $199 to about $160~ once these new nVidia cards roll out . . .
???
Nvidia :
280
260
GX2
9800
8800 GTS 512
8800 GT
8800 Ultra
8800 GTX
8800 GTS 640
Every card on that list can play pretty much any game, at nearly any resolution (with exception to Crysis), and still be above a 'tolerable' level. Yes there are exception, but on a whole they are all powerful cards.(I didn't even mention the later model 8600 and 9600 mid-range, which are peppy in their own right)
ATi:
4850
3870 X2
3870
3850
The most recent and most powerful to date by ATi. Where their current top card (minus and unknown status of the 4870, yet to be seen). Is faster than two of the cards in Nvidia's top end lineup of the last two years(8800 640 GTS and 8800 GT - the rest are too marginal to make claims over).
That alone should speak volumes.
It doesn't really matter who you 'side' for, these are the products on the market, and even if ATi's dual GPU solution 4870X2 puts down the 280, who cares. A) The frames we'd be looking it would be way more than needed for any game, it would be as pointless to purchase an X2, as people said about the GX2. B) Nvidia will still hold all the cards, and while ATi struggles to out do themselves in the future, Nvidia sits comfortably bidding their time.
my reasoning being is that ATI have only just released their mid-range card for the series, 4870 and 4870x2 are still later down the road. Considering how well the 4850 is performing so far, and it's current price, they'll sell better than what nVidia is currently offering.
So, nVidia has to remarket and lower their price to compete; fine and dandy, but what does ATI tend to do once they release their upper-end model? Lower the price of their mid-range even further, meaning that the ball will stay in ATIs favor, as now their mid-range will still be far below nVidia's competing price, and the 4870s will be priced well, (hopefully) perform better than what nVidia currently has out, and they'll be selling like hotcakes.
nVidia will counter again with another price drop and new hardware, and then we'll see the 4870x2 roll out, ATI lower the prices on their other models on shelf, and the ball is still in ATI's court . . . and a few months after that, I'm sure ATI will further lower the price of the 70x2.
We're seeing hardball here like we haven't seen between the companies in a few years.
any opinions on what i should do being an 9800GTX owner?
If AMD wants to get it's resources, honor and title back.. they will have to do a lot better than what they are currently capable of.
No one using anything but a Scalar architecture can hold the performance crown. That has been proven. The price/performance crown should not interest us nearly as much. I'm sure the.. what is it now X4K series(?).. has cost AMD much money to make than they will counter by selling it at the mere 200$ price-point. But it's their fault - the card is no better than the G92.
Lets not forget that in a few months, these "high rollers" will be replaced with, perhaps, other high rollers. this is a big waste of money imo.
RAM prices are dirt low, and CPU's nearly as low.. why can't both GFX companies take the price-performance route too?
Oh and basing any argument on Fud kills your argument before you even started it. 75% of the stuff posted on Fudzilla is complete BS.
And as for the high prices and you being tired of them, nVidia has beat ATi price to performance for a long time now. They have higher priced cards, but they destroyed ATi's offerings. Until the 4850's laung ATi didn't have a single card worth considering, for every ATi card there was an nVidia card that gave a better price to performance in the same price range.(with the exception of maybe the 3870x2, but that is only because nVidia didn't have a card in that price point) So I would really like you to back up your overpriced comment with some history proving that you have a reason to be "tired" of it. If you don't want to pay high priced, buy a lower end card. Just because they have a $600 card, that doesn't mean you have to buy it.