farlex85I almost don't like AMD b/c of the constant fanboyism they receive...

OzzmanFloyd120You are quick to point the fanboism on the AMD side, but whenever AMD pulls out a good card the intel fanbois are the first to cry out "NO DATS NOT TEH POSSIBLE! i7 IZ TEH ULTIMATE ARCHITECTURE!"
At least us AMD fanboys can sit back and shut the hell up when we know we're going to lose instead of crying over it.

Edit: Also I remember a few months back btarunr posted some benches showing the Deneb engineering samples beating out the i7 engineering samples.

OzzmanFloyd120Also I remember a few months back btarunr posted some benches showing the Deneb engineering samples beating out the i7 engineering samples.

CyberDruidWTH first Obama wins the election and now AMD hit's 6ghz?! It's the end of days I tell ya :D

btarunrI don't remember doing so :confused:

CyberDruidWTH first Obama wins the election and now AMD hit's 6ghz?! It's the end of days I tell ya :D

Silverel1.9v ain't that much :p
I've got ram that runs at 2.5v (DDR)

farlex85Please don't make a fanboy of fanboy's argument (arguing why some fanboys are better than others), it sickens me :laugh:. I just meant that many people seem like they would buy AMD even if they weren't even close in performance and charged nearly the same price. AMD fanboyism far, far outnumbers reverse, and it seems to have little reason, although from what I can gather it has aroused from previous trends before I was into computers. I was being facetious when I said I almost don't like AMD b/c of it (such strong fanboyism that to me seems unwarranted makes me the opposite fanboy :laugh:), I really don't care about brand at all, only product. Anyway, yay processors. :)

Edit: I guess I missed that thread. That would be quite the feat though and great for the market, probably a bit too good to be true though.

OzzmanFloyd120Does anybody know anything about the architecture? Is it going to be just like the same old phenoms loaded down with cache or did they change the way they operate?

The transistor drive current for AMD's 45-nm devices is much lower than that of the Intel HKMG transistors. But power consumption is quickly becoming a high priority for server chips. AMD's transistors exhibit very low channel leakage. Our transistor benchmarks indicates that leakage current is less than one-third of the value measured on AMD's 65-nm process. It's also significantly lower than the Intel 45-nm HKMG process. In fact the Ion/Ioff ratio for AMD's PFET is nearly 10 times better than that for the Intel PFET.

$ReaPeR$.....imo AMD is doing to intel the same thing that it did to Nvidia.

Judging by our sources, ATI guys are making great changes inside the company and changing the product line-up in ways that old AMD would never think of.

BluesmanThe word on the street is that the ATI team is significantly changing the culture at AMD. For example, HERE you will see the following comment:


i can see your point and totaly agree with it. thanks for the info.. lets hope the PII will be as good as they look.

BluesmanIMHO, AMD is using "guerrilla marketing" to promote Phenom II. Formal advertising and benchmarks prior to launch will only result in a crushing Intel response. AMD needs enthusiasts to get excited about a big product rollout. Think ATI 48xx marketing and how nVidia was caught flat-footed on pricing and marketing.