Monday, December 29th 2008
G92-Based GeForce 9 Series Products to be Renamed GeForce GTS 200 Series
The NVIDIA G92 graphics processor has had the reputation of spanning across two generations of GeForce graphics accelerators, which could well become three with talk about NVIDIA executing another re-branding to products based on the GPU. The re-branding will use the B1 revision of the G92 GPU (aka G92b), which is known to have been manufactured on the 55nm fabrication process, along with the 65nm A1 revision.
The new series created will include two SKUs based on the G92, the GeForce GTS 240 and GeForce GTS 250. These are the 112 SP and 128 SP variants of the G92 core, presently branded under 8800/9800 GT and 8800 GTS 512, 9800 GTX/GTX+ respectively. NVIDIA looks to capitalise on the sales improvement the GTX 200 series has seen for the past two or so months now, by giving it a present-generation branding. The re-branding, or rather, releasing products with the new naming scheme is said to be operationalised by February 2009.
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The new series created will include two SKUs based on the G92, the GeForce GTS 240 and GeForce GTS 250. These are the 112 SP and 128 SP variants of the G92 core, presently branded under 8800/9800 GT and 8800 GTS 512, 9800 GTX/GTX+ respectively. NVIDIA looks to capitalise on the sales improvement the GTX 200 series has seen for the past two or so months now, by giving it a present-generation branding. The re-branding, or rather, releasing products with the new naming scheme is said to be operationalised by February 2009.
66 Comments on G92-Based GeForce 9 Series Products to be Renamed GeForce GTS 200 Series
And as for the 8800GS and 9600GSO, that is a true mind bender. Originally, the 9600GSO was just a rebadged 8800GS, so the two were identical. However, nVidia re-released the 9600GSO, and crippled its shader count while upping the memory bus width. So the old 9600GSO performed identically to the 8800GS, while the new 9600GSO is worse.
HM (HyperMemory)
SE (Special Edition)
LE (Limited Edition)
GT (Gran Turismo)
RX
(Plain, no suffix)
GTO
Pro
XL
XT (eXTreme)
XT PE (eXTreme Platinum Edition)
XTX
pain in the but to tell with nvidia's suffixes though. though wiki made some pretty good arguements.
nvidia also does it and is supposed to be arranged from lowest to highest based on the category
which should be LE, GS, GSO, GT, GTS, GTO, GTX, ultra, and GX2,
but I guess this doesn't sometimes always work especially in the case of 8800GT vs 9800GT and 9800GTX.
NV had better do something fancy and at least throw like a gig of GDDR3 on it to satisfy me.
Some benchmarks, depending where reviewed, which games and what driver revision was used, had the 2900 beating the 3870 or vice versa, but it was pretty much a wash and the gamer couldn't tell on a blind test.
On a different note, I've got several high end graphics card by now, including a 2900XT 1GB & an 8800 GTX. The benchies to this day have a GTX beating the 2900, but more importantly, the game playing experience (frame rate) is so much smoother on the GTX at high resolutions and/or high AA & AF. The 2900 makes a bloody awful noise while losing, as well. That was my lemon purchase of last year. :)
Yeah, ATI really screwed up with the 2900, which was a great shame, since it held back the development of faster cards for over a year through lack of competition.
I always thought 2900XT was slightly behind 3870 but I stand corrected.
I wonder how the 2900xtx 1gb gddr4 fairs, Its a rare card.
I don't work in the auto industry, or have anything to do with it, yet I don't just go onto a car lot and buy the one with the biggest number in the model name.
I don't work in the audio industry, or have anything to do with it, yet I don't walk into Best Buy and buy the stereo system with the best sounding name.
I don't work for the TV industry, or have anything to do with it, yet I don't just buy the TV with the biggest model number.
With the internet being the way it is today, with all the data available on virtually any product, there is no excuse for not being informed about what you are buying. Especially, when it comes to computer related items. Anyone that doesn't inform themselves before making a purchase is not what I would consider intelligent.
You don't have to know a damn thing about computers to go online and find out what is better than what in the world of graphics cards.
Also there are people who just buy things on impulse and are beyond help :).
It took my friend weeks to figure out how to determine what type of video card he had with me telling him EXACTLY WHAT TO DO...
Lol brilliant. :toast:
Here's a link on the HIS website that shows a nicely presented tech spec comparison between the different 2900 versions:
www.hisdigital.com/un/product1-45.shtml
Oh and in the name of full disclosure, mine is a Sapphire Pro model, which I flashed the BIOS on to turn it into an XT. I can overclock the CPU to 800MHz+ and the RAM to 2.2GHz+ on it. :) :) To achieve perfect stability however, one has to increase the supply voltage and that makes a bad noise problem simply intolerable, though. I wonder how those enthusiasts who o/c two of these in Crossfire could stand the environmental noise hazard!
I've also got a HIS HD4870 512MB and that baby just blows the doors off it for performance and noise. The difference is astounding; even more than the benchmarks and reviews would suggest.
Ironically, despite it being a lemon, I find the 2900 the most visually attractive card I've seen (and yes, I'm the one person who actually liked the flame design on it lol). The 4870 looks pretty cool too, though. If I didn't want to fiddle around with the 2900 occasionally, I'd just eBay the thing and get back what I could on it.
Also, I now have a Leadtek 9800 GX2 that I got b-grade recently for cheap and it's (deep intake of breath) fast...
the 8800GT doesn't support DX10.1
the 9800GTX is an 8800GTS512, and outperforms the GTS, same with these cards
go look it up, do your homework, look up some benches, then get back to me.
It really is not that difficult to do some simply product research before buying. Yeah, I was wondering this also. 1.) The 9800GT doesn't support Tri-SLI. With the sole exception being a special card made by ASUS, but the reference 9800GT does not support Tri-SLi.
2.) No G92 or G92b based card support DX10.1. Not even the GT200 cards support DX 10.1.
3.) The 9800GTX had higher clocks than an 8800GTS512, that is why it outperformed it. When clocked the same, the two performed the same.
4.) The 9800GTX is definitely not an 8800GST512. The 9800GTX was definitely a better card than the 8800GTS512, though not for reasons that really affected performance(clock for clock).