Thursday, February 5th 2009

Intel 32 nm Silicon Technology On Course for Late 2009

Having reacted rather sharply to the ongoing global economic slump by planning massive workforce and production cuts, one would expect Intel to be conservative with its development potential. In a contradiction to just that, a recent conversation EETimes had with Mark Bohr, director of Intel's technology and manufacturing group, the director said that the company is on course with its plans to introduce the newer 32 nm silicon fabrication technology by late 2009.

"The 32 nm technology is getting ready to go into the manufacturing phase, we are lining up fabs to support it and we expect great demand. We are on track for shipping products in the fourth quarter and have 22 nm technology in development for 2011" said Mr. Bohr. The conversation previewed some of the papers Intel plans to present at the International Solid-State Circuits Conference that convenes next week.

Intel follows a "tick-tock" model of product development cycle, wherein, the company designs new microprocessor designs and silicon fabrication technologies in alternation. In each cycle, an architecture gets to be made on at least two successive fabrication technologies before itself being succeeded by a newer design. Currently Intel employs the 45 nm High-K metal gate manufacturing technology, on which it introduced later variants of the Core 2 series CPUs, and has introduced its Nehalem architecture, with Core i7 being its first commercial implementation.Source: EETimes
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21 Comments on Intel 32 nm Silicon Technology On Course for Late 2009

#1
FreedomEclipse
Crazy Dogmatic Bullsh!t!
Meh, & where the hell are AMD in the midst of all of this??? after just releasing a new quad core that just about competes with the Q6600 which has already come & gone :shadedshu

& now with the 32nm procesors comin - everyones gonna flock over the wall to 'intel' territories to try out their uber overclocking chip prowess.

not good for AMD yet again. AMD might not target the 'high end' market. but at the end of the day I doubt their low to mid end range gear is bringing in huge profits at the same time. Its only a matter of time before they dissapear,
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PCpraiser100
Great, I hope Westere will work with my P6T or is it just same old Intel behind the compatibility trouble?
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DanTheBanjoman
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by: FreedomEclipse
Meh, & where the hell are AMD in the midst of all of this??? after just releasing a new quad core that just about competes with the Q6600 which has already come & gone :shadedshu

& now with the 32nm procesors comin - everyones gonna flock over the wall to 'intel' territories to try out their uber overclocking chip prowess.

not good for AMD yet again. AMD might not target the 'high end' market. but at the end of the day I doubt their low to mid end range gear is bringing in huge profits at the same time. Its only a matter of time before they dissapear,
I would say where they've always been, behind. The XP and A64(X2) lines were just exceptions. AMD is a far smaller company and can't afford to do as much research as Intel does. Intel made a mistake, AMD had a nice run, Intel is back on track. It's how it works. And hardly because Intel is a better company, they just have more money.
The idea of them disappearing is also wrong for that reason, they're just back where they've been for over two decades.
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#4
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
by: PCpraiser100
Great, I hope Westere will work with my P6T or is it just same old Intel behind the compatibility trouble?
wtf are you going on about?

Good. 32nm will cut power and heat! :D
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#5
Solaris17
Creator Solaris Utility DVD
o man iv been wating for 32nm thius is going to be so amazing for power saving and temps the voltage will be like .8v
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#6
1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
by: FreedomEclipse
Meh, & where the hell are AMD in the midst of all of this??? after just releasing a new quad core that just about competes with the Q6600 which has already come & gone :shadedshu

& now with the 32nm procesors comin - everyones gonna flock over the wall to 'intel' territories to try out their uber overclocking chip prowess.

not good for AMD yet again. AMD might not target the 'high end' market. but at the end of the day I doubt their low to mid end range gear is bringing in huge profits at the same time. Its only a matter of time before they dissapear,
Not everyone has $280 for an i7, another $200 at least for a mobo, and at least another $150 for RAM.

Having the best $1000 processors on the market really doesn't mean much to 99% of consumers.
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#7
farlex85
Falls right in line with the "tick". I actually thought they may delay it a bit as they have far extended past the competition at this point but I guess they'll just keep on rolling. More importanty to me though, I wonder what's become of i5. It seems unlikely that at this juncture intel is interested in lowering prices of the i7 platform, I know havendale was cancelled, but what about the mid-range quads?
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by: PCpraiser100
Great, I hope Westere will work with my P6T or is it just same old Intel behind the compatibility trouble?
If you look at AMD's history, it was never a big 'money making' company, even though they had some good designs with athlon stuff, they just never wore like intel.
They will find someone to help them - i hope - even in this economy, otherwise.. well, i don't think we - the end users - would want AMD to die.
#9
farlex85
by: GFC
If you look at AMD's history, it was never a big 'money making' company, even though they had some good designs with athlon stuff, they just never wore like intel.
They will find someone to help them - i hope - even in this economy, otherwise.. well, i don't think we - the end users - would want AMD to die.
I don't think there's really any danger of them dieing. If they were to die there would be a monopoly in not just one but two markets (now that they own ATI), that just wouldn't happen. Their most likely help will come from their competition to assure that there is indeed competition.
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#10
Konceptz
Come on 32nm, thats all that I'm waiting on for an I7 build.
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#11
cray86
The die shrink of sandy bridge will be my next big PC.. but I usually drop 3k on my PC's so I only do a build every 4-5 years... unless I get a real job and actually have expendable cash.
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#12
Konceptz
by: cray86
The die shrink of sandy bridge will be my next big PC.. but I usually drop 3k on my PC's so I only do a build every 4-5 years... unless I get a real job and actually have expendable cash.
I heard that, I wanted to jump at i7 launch, but my current rig still is pretty fast to me, so by time the 32nm drops i'll drop maybe 2 grand and i'll be done for a few years.

my PS3 has taken over my gaming, so i pretty much stick to PC only games on the PC and do all my media encoding.
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#13
lemonadesoda
by: btarunr
Having reacted rather sharply to the ongoing global economic slump by planning massive workforce and production cuts, one would expect Intel to be conservative with its development potential. In a contradiction to just that, a recent conversation EETimes had with Mark Bohr, director of Intel's technology and manufacturing group, the director said that the company is on course with its plans to introduce the newer 32 nm silicon fabrication technology by late 2009.
? Why contradiction. They have already made those investments in 32 nm fab processes, and moving CPU to 32nm will make them cheap to manuf. incl. cooler (and possibly faster) which means they have an even more competitive product.

And YES, they did cut back. They just cancelled i5. And culled thousands of employees.
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#14
HolyCow02
The thing is AMD is not that far behind on this. I read they will have 32nm in 2010, and 22nm in 2012, just a year behind intel. Same as this year and last year. Intel has 45nm last year, AMD has it this year. Intel has the money to push things forward faster
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#15
Haytch
While AMD/ATi is playing catch up, Intel is gaining obvious market share.

AMD/ATi had to play the same game with Nvidia in the gfx department shortly after the merge, and catch up they did! Maybe AMD/ATi dont have the most efficient stream processing design but they are even with Nvidia in my books and we havnt seen the likes of this since pre-8800GTX days.

Im very confident that AMD/ATi will also adapt chipset functionality/memory on their CPU's in the very near future simular to what Intel has done, only with a much better performance/compatability factor (When used in combination with an AMD/ATi GPU).

Long story short, dont write AMD/ATi off anytime soon.

. . . . Didnt the 2 guys that formed AMD once upon a time work for Intel, and ever since then have simply been advisors to Intel ?
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#16
FreedomEclipse
Crazy Dogmatic Bullsh!t!
by: DanTheBanjoman
I would say where they've always been, behind. The XP and A64(X2) lines were just exceptions. AMD is a far smaller company and can't afford to do as much research as Intel does. Intel made a mistake, AMD had a nice run, Intel is back on track. It's how it works. And hardly because Intel is a better company, they just have more money.
The idea of them disappearing is also wrong for that reason, they're just back where they've been for over two decades.
back where they've been for 2 decades??? I Hardly think 'AMD in financial difficulties' is the same AMD 2 decades back.

your right they arent as big as intel. but at the same time they might have the 'right' kinda people working for them. & to me - all your saying is more or less the same thing but worded differently - In my scenario AMD goes into administration. in yours they take TIME to go into administration but over all its the same out come - AMD will cease to exist because Intel will keep on researching & marketting agressively because they can & because 'they have money' & AMD will lose even more market share & profits till the point its begging OEM's to use their products when INTEL have already muscled in & cut a deal with them.

AMD will continue to sell at a loss or go against the tide by pricing their releases 'higher' then Intels when Intel already has possibly the most bang for buck cpu's on the market. who wants to pay more for a product that does LESS then a competitors product for MORE money???

the die hard fanboys or at least the ones with money to thorw away will still buy kit from AMD. but alone wont be enough to keep AMD afloat unless they find someone to invest a huge amount of money in them
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#17
spearman914
by: FreedomEclipse
Meh, & where the hell are AMD in the midst of all of this??? after just releasing a new quad core that just about competes with the Q6600 which has already come & gone :shadedshu

& now with the 32nm procesors comin - everyones gonna flock over the wall to 'intel' territories to try out their uber overclocking chip prowess.

not good for AMD yet again. AMD might not target the 'high end' market. but at the end of the day I doubt their low to mid end range gear is bringing in huge profits at the same time. Its only a matter of time before they dissapear,
Q6600 are far from the Phenom II's. Well at least the 940 BE...
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#18
DRDNA
kewl we'll see how they test and if they are crazy like the i7 920 then I will be all over it!:toast:
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#19
FreedomEclipse
Crazy Dogmatic Bullsh!t!
by: spearman914
Q6600 are far from the Phenom II's. Well at least the 940 BE...
far as in way way way better or...????? even when overclocked the X4 940 BE cant match the Q6600 in a lot of tests that was ran on it
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#20
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
by: FreedomEclipse
Meh, & where the hell are AMD in the midst of all of this???
Getting out spent at every turn. AMD's only hope to compete performance wise is if Intel stumbles. Otherwise, they'll just have to stick to being price competitive like they did back in the 1980's through early 2000's. Kinda sucks that they are segregated to almost a permanent-second place but, what can you do about it? Intel has far more capital and clearly much better leadership.
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#21
PCpraiser100
by: DRDNA
kewl we'll see how they test and if they are crazy like the i7 920 then I will be all over it!:toast:
They will be with i7 and Xeon. The i5s come second in 2010. People will be buying these things like mad since it has new instructions and an extra two cores for folding galore!!!
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