Monday, July 25th 2011

AMD's Next Gen. Korona High-End Desktop Platform to Fuse Processor with Northbridge

AMD's next generation high-end desktop platform codenamed "Korona", will fuse the processor silicon with the northbridge. Currently, the "Scorpius" platform which is partially launched, follows the slightly older platform layout of a processor with IMC, and a 2-chip chipset. The PCI-Express root complex is still in the chipset. Scorpius includes upcoming FX Series "Zambezi" processors, and AMD 9-series desktop chipset, with AM3+ socket. AMD has a parallel platform that caters to value-thru-mainstream segments, the "Lynx" platform, which has already transitioned to the 2-chip model in which the APU chip packs processor cores, an IMC, a PCI-Express root complex, and a GPU.
Korona platform, due for 2012, will consist of a new CPU architecture called "Piledriver", that succeeds the yet to be released "Bulldozer". Nothing else is known about Piledriver, except that the first high-end CPUs based on it will be codenamed "Komodo", and will pack 10 cores. Since this is a major platform layout rearrangement, Korona will introduce a new socket called FM2, it is quite logical to assume that the new socket will be incompatible with AM3+.

Korona combines Komodo CPUs with Hudson D4 Fusion Controller Hub (FCH), which is just a glorified southbridge, much like the A75 chipset and Intel's Platform Controller Hub (PCH). The Hudson D4 packs no less than 8 SATA 6 Gb/s ports with RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 support; an integrated USB 3.0 controller with 4 ports, and 10 USB 2.0 ports.

Given the particulars of this platform, we speculate that Komodo will be designed to be competitive with Intel's Ivy Bridge LGA1155 processors, or maybe even Sandy Bridge-E, if only we know the number of DDR3 memory channels Komodo will have. This doesn't mean that you shouldn't wait for Zambezi, "2012" is a vague date. For all you know, Korona could even be released by the very end of 2012.Source: Zol.com.cn
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75 Comments on AMD's Next Gen. Korona High-End Desktop Platform to Fuse Processor with Northbridge

#1
jmcslob
If AMD doesn't pull ahead of Intel this will be an EPIC FAIL.....Intel can get away with a new socket every year because they are better.....

Nobody is gonna change platforms for a second rate chip year after year......
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#2
Hotobu
The level of failure is a function of expectations. I don't think it's been AMD's goal in the past to really try and outdo Intel. They've found a nice niche with the "best price to performance" title.
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#3
dalekdukesboy
cheesy999 said:
fixed
totally offtopic, awesome avatar:)
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#4
ensabrenoir
Frick said:
I think that is why we have generalnonsense.net.
True. Point taken. Some of these releases just makes it hard 2 reszist(I know on cell phone no spell check)
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#5
TheMailMan78
Big Member
They have been needing to change sockets for a VERY long time.
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#6
seronx
repman244 said:
If the $320 for top of the line Zambezi is true, it's competing against LGA 1155 IMO.
Price =/= Performance
AMD is exploiting their performance monoploy

Hotobu said:
Roadheader? Screw that if it doesn't go Bulldozer, Piledriver, Wrecking Ball then AMD's failed me as a company.


Till it rends your flesh

XoR said:
@seronx
LGA2011? :twitch:
first Bulldozer have to prove it can beat Nehalem :laugh:
Well LGA 2011 is the only cpus that have 8 Cores so, 8 cores vs 8 cores perfect competition
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#7
Steevo
They better be careful, they will have to use names like, "very large machine with destructive tendencies" or "very awesome big thing" soon.
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#8
seronx
Steevo said:
They better be careful, they will have to use names like, "very large machine with destructive tendencies" or "very awesome big thing" soon.
Well Auger is the fusion of the bobcat and the bulldozer lines



See
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#9
repman244
seronx said:
Price =/= Performance
Price is performance, why do you think Intel has $1000 chips and AMD doesn't?
Why were the first FX chips at $1000?

If you have the best performance you can price the chips higher, that's why you don't see any expensive AMD chips right now, because they wouldn't sell.

If they place Zambezi around $320 it's probably going to compete with 2600K.
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#10
theoneandonlymrk
ensabrenoir said:
Bull dozer pile driver its like amd and intel are playing mortal combat or. Some sort of wrestling video game don't care what u call it until its released its all fictional
yeh because sandy bridge and ivy bridge sound menacing:laugh:


I cant help but think this news leak wont help AMD sell its new FX chips this christmass as, I now am considering sticking for even longer and awiating komodo+1090(weva)chipset with pciex3 support(true crossfireable pciex3,with both at full speed), surely im not alone in thinking my cpu isnt being strained much anyway,if i had ddr3 in here id have no doubts now id be stickin wiv.:)
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#11
[H]@RD5TUFF
So will it play Crysis . . . . ?














j/k


Will it finally make the move to LGA is what I want to know.
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#13
erocker
[H]@RD5TUFF said:

Will it finally make the move to LGA is what I want to know.
I hope not.
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#14
XoR
seronx said:

Well LGA 2011 is the only cpus that have 8 Cores so, 8 cores vs 8 cores perfect competition
8 semi-cores vs 8 cores + HT
what a fierce competition it will be...
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[H]@RD5TUFF
XoR said:
8 semi-cores vs 8 cores + HT
what a fierce competition it will be...
erocker said:
I hope not.
They will have to make the change to another socket type in order the add the bandwidth for more cores your seeing the limitation in AM3+
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#17
XoR
nemesis.ie said:
They are not semi-cores.
let's hope for AMDs sake those are semi-cores, at least if those leaked results are true
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#18
repman244
Well they are "semi cores" but AMD calls them cores, so it's still a core vs core comparison.
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#19
[H]@RD5TUFF
repman244 said:
Well they are "semi cores" but AMD calls them cores, so it's still a core vs core comparison.
My understanding was bulldozer was 6 full cores with 2 "semi cores", for a "true 8 core" processor, and the reason for the semi cores, was because the socket didn't have the bandwidth for 8 full cores. Correct me if I am wrong.
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#20
repman244
People call them semi cores because the cores in the module aren't the same as the cores we saw by now, the two cores share the FP unit and some other resources.
But since AMD is calling them cores I think we need to take them as real cores.
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#21
[H]@RD5TUFF
So it's the memory controller and USB not the whole northbridge ?



repman244 said:
People call them semi cores because the cores in the module aren't the same as the cores we saw by now, the two cores share the FP unit and some other resources.
But since AMD is calling them cores I think we need to take them as real cores.
That's a silly statement, like AMD is going to call them semi cores and market it as the world first true "semi 8 core processor. Of course AMD is going to make a positive spin on it.
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#22
AlienIsGOD
link2009 said:
Wow, TPU comments have really gone down hill.

Every other thread you read involves some sort of sexual pun or other stupid inference. It's too bad people are so bored and feel the need to impress others instead of discussing the topic at hand. I remember why I stopped coming here, I don't know how I even remembered my account name.
I think ur going a bit overboard my friend. There are MANY useful threads W/O sexual references or dumb jokes. Some of us may like to have a little fun, and for you to remember ur account name to post this means that U STILL DO come here.

Lighten up :D
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#23
[H]@RD5TUFF
AlienIsGOD said:
I think ur going a bit overboard my friend. There are MANY useful threads W/O sexual references or dumb jokes. Some of us may like to have a little fun, and for you to remember ur account name to post this means that U STILL DO come here.

Lighten up :D
Indeed there is a difference between thread crapping and making some jokes.
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#24
Hayder_Master
seronx said:
Piledriver is an improvement on Bulldozer

Most likely getting rid of the Vertical Multithreading on the Front End for something of a Horizontal Multithreading nature
  • Increasing the IPC

  • Increasing the Pipeline length

  • Other various small details like reducing latencies and such
and yes I know Piledriver already....it is in the K15h Software Optimization guide
you right most important thing is increasing pipeline lengh
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#25
ensabrenoir
theoneandonlymrk said:
yeh because sandy bridge and ivy bridge sound menacing:laugh:


I cant help but think this news leak wont help AMD sell its new FX chips this christmass as, I now am considering sticking for even longer and awiating komodo+1090(weva)chipset with pciex3 support(true crossfireable pciex3,with both at full speed), surely im not alone in thinking my cpu isnt being strained much anyway,if i had ddr3 in here id have no doubts now id be stickin wiv.:)
Don't know about you but would never walk/drive over a bridge made of.... sand... or(Que sinister music)...ivy.....poison..... ivy :roll:. seriously with the both of them promising so much better stuff down the road ... why buy anything for the next year ...or year after... or year after...
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