Monday, March 26th 2012

Microsoft To Launch $100 Xbox Lite Before Moving to Durango

Shortly before launching its next-generation game console (codenamed "Durango"), Microsoft is said to be working on a new product (SKU, rather), called Xbox Lite. This new console will cost as little as $100. According to a source, Xbox Lite will be ARM-based, and scheduled for "late 2013 which does Arcade-style games & all the current & future media apps with Kinect (with near-mode)." What makes the rumor plausible is that ARM chips advancing faster than ever, and so is the ecosystem of casual games on Xbox Live Arcade, which don't have very high graphical detail (and hence, aren't resource-heavy). Many of these casual games, along with Kinect-enabled games, could make up the ecosystem around Xbox Lite.
Source: BGR
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54 Comments on Microsoft To Launch $100 Xbox Lite Before Moving to Durango

#26
Steevo
BumbleBee
this XBOX 360 does have a disk drive.
Low speed ROM is cheap these days.
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#27
naoan
nvidiaintelftw
oh god. basically a console is a simplified computer. If you make a console thats upgradable your basically making it like a PC, just itll be dedicated to games/entertainment then other things that a PC is used for now. It would defeat the purpose of a console if they were upgradable.
I'm with you on this. Consoles users do not want to tinker or worry whether the new game on the horizon will play at acceptable FPS (or even play at all) on their current form of hardware, no, they want it to plug and play; AKA the whole point of this particular side of game business.
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#28
theoneandonlymrk
ive a 360 in bits in front of me now, honestly ,how they chargeing more then 100 for it now ,thats 50 quids worth in there minus Hdd , and all in it really is just a shit slightly special use pc with a special xbox trusted platform chip on it

I did however straight away think , wow can i get a usb adapter for this bitch:cool: the TPM module
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#29
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
I remember when the Original Need For Speed Underground came out for both XB and PS2 and I was running it on Both a PC and a Laptop with a 9700 Pro and a 9800 256. I remember using optimized defaults (best for everyones settings) which disabled graphics customization and Then I noticed there was Customization of Graphics, I turned up every detail in the game and noticed there was a major difference without any performance hits. I compared XB to Best for everyone settings on PC and both were the same. I upped the Graphics on the PC and Laptop and to Others Surprise the PC Version looked superior.
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#30
NC37
nt300
Sega did this afew times. Sega Genesis into Sega CD ito Sega 32X until they release the Sega Saturn, then Sega Dreamcast which then the new Sega CEO made the big mistake of cancel the Dreamcast, despite record sales.

Good for the new Xbox coming out should be based on HD 7870M.
Exactly. The Genesis was such a great modular platform. Nintendo did upgrades to a degree as well. N64 had the RAM pack and the 64DD. Jaguar had the Jaguar CD.

I do hope M$ learns from Sony with it's next console. PS3 was hurt a bit by continuing PS2 sales. Nintendo has faced similar issues on the handheld front. New console should mean cutting off the old.
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#32
KainXS
nvidiaintelftw
oh god. basically a console is a simplified computer. If you make a console thats upgradable your basically making it like a PC, just itll be dedicated to games/entertainment then other things that a PC is used for now. It would defeat the purpose of a console if they were upgradable.
yup

microsoft is probably just trying to cash in on the fact that the next windows will support arm and if they simplify the os and create some cheap xbox tablet or something they can cash in on those games even though they might be available for other arm devices but some will be xbox only just like sony does for the xperia line.
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#33
BumbleBee
NC37
Exactly. The Genesis was such a great modular platform. Nintendo did upgrades to a degree as well. N64 had the RAM pack and the 64DD. Jaguar had the Jaguar CD.

I do hope M$ learns from Sony with it's next console. PS3 was hurt a bit by continuing PS2 sales. Nintendo has faced similar issues on the handheld front. New console should mean cutting off the old.
all the attachments failed miserably. remember the XBOX 360 HD DVD attachment? of course you don't.. because it failed lol
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#34
Fermi
ZoneDymo
Yeah because a console that you can upgrade will automatically allow for all the stuff a PC does....
Think before you post.
So whats the point in wasting money on upgrading consoles? You buy a new gen. of console when it comes out and that's it. No need to upgrade and worry about sys req. for years. That's the main reason most people buy consoles. You wan't to spend money on upgrades? Buy a PC and you can play the latest games in 60+ FPS and ultra high resolutions. plus MAKE games,watch internet porn,troll on forums,watch cat videos on YT. Oh the possibilities are endless.:roll:
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#35
Mega-Japan
Fermi
So whats the point in wasting money on upgrading consoles? You buy a new gen. of console when it comes out and that's it. No need to upgrade and worry about sys req. for years. That's the main reason most people buy consoles. You wan't to spend money on upgrades? Buy a PC and you can play the latest games in 60+ FPS and ultra high resolutions. plus MAKE games,watch internet porn,troll on forums,watch cat videos on YT. Oh the possibilities are endless.:roll:
+1 on the cat videos :toast:
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#36
MilkyWay
FordGT90Concept
It sounds to me like this is pretty much just a Windows Phone with a console shell. It doesn't play actual Xbox games, just downloadable content. I think it is going to sell terrible or have a bad case of mistaken identity thinking it is a fully featured Xbox 360 console. It is the boxed retail games that sell consoles, not the cheapos that are downloaded.
No way, i was just thinking the same thing :laugh:
I think the idea is similar to an Apple TV, a media streaming device that can also play some games. A bit pointless as a 360 can do all that.
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#40
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
MilkyWay
No way, i was just thinking the same thing :laugh:
I think the idea is similar to an Apple TV, a media streaming device that can also play some games. A bit pointless as a 360 can do all that.
Look at it this way when Kids and People See the Stuff on Shelves it makes them want to buy it, not if its digital download
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#42
xenocide
NC37
I do hope M$ learns from Sony with it's next console. PS3 was hurt a bit by continuing PS2 sales. Nintendo has faced similar issues on the handheld front. New console should mean cutting off the old.
The PS3 was hurt by a lack of backwards compatibility and a $600-700 price tag at launch. Most issues with consoles are not because of their previous platform stealing sales, that will always happen. It has to do with their new platform not being good enough. The 3DS for example failed to sell at $300 or $350 at first, but once they lowered the price it was worthwhile. Why are people going to pay $300+ to play the same games they already play on their DS? It probably also doesn't help that the only thing that seperates a DS and a 3DS is a 3D screen.

The PS2 was like the best selling consoles of all time. If the PS3 had software emulation for PS2, or was always backwards compatibile, it probably would have done incredibly well.
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#43
Mega-Japan
xenocide
The PS3 was hurt by a lack of backwards compatibility and a $600-700 price tag at launch. Most issues with consoles are not because of their previous platform stealing sales, that will always happen. It has to do with their new platform not being good enough. The 3DS for example failed to sell at $300 or $350 at first, but once they lowered the price it was worthwhile. Why are people going to pay $300+ to play the same games they already play on their DS? It probably also doesn't help that the only thing that seperates a DS and a 3DS is a 3D screen.

The PS2 was like the best selling consoles of all time. If the PS3 had software emulation for PS2, or was always backwards compatibile, it probably would have done incredibly well.
$700 PS3? $350 3DS? Please tell me you're talking about Australian dollars.. Or perhaps day 1 eBay prices..?

xenocide
It probably also doesn't help that the only thing that seperates a DS and a 3DS is a 3D screen.
Oh, and that is the most ignorant comment on this thread yet. But I'll restrain myself from not bashing you for it. A lot of people seem to be doing that already. Bashing others that is.
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#44
xenocide
Mega-Japan
$700 PS3? $350 3DS? Please tell me you're talking about Australian dollars.. Or perhaps day 1 eBay prices..?
I was $100 of on the PS3, launch models were $500 and $600. My bad. The initial investment was about $700 though when you considered Tax and a single game. The 3DS was $300 most places and the price was dropped to a little under $200 after sales were marginally terrible. Once again, I cannot mechanically recall the exact prices of things several years away.

Mega-Japan
Oh, and that is the most ignorant comment on this thread yet. But I'll restrain myself from not bashing you for it. A lot of people seem to be doing that already. Bashing others that is.
Really? From a hardware perspective they are basically the same thing minus the 3D Capabilities. Oh wait, sorry, the 3DS is a Gyroscope and Accelerometer for even more gimmicky bullshit. In terms of actual processing power, the visuals on the 3DS are almost identical to those on the DSi (sometimes looking worse since that 3D is atrocious).

A large number of the extra's on the 3DS are just software things added to make the system seem like more than a one-trick pony.
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#45
Mega-Japan
xenocide
I was $100 of on the PS3, launch models were $500 and $600. My bad. The initial investment was about $700 though when you considered Tax and a single game. The 3DS was $300 most places and the price was dropped to a little under $200 after sales were marginally terrible. Once again, I cannot mechanically recall the exact prices of things several years away.
3DS had a $249.99 MSRP and dropped to $169.99 7 months later or so. Sales were not necessarily "terrible", not at least compared to the 1st year sales every other gaming handheld has done up to now anyways. But I do agree that even at the $250, the 3DS was not justified.

xenocide
Really? From a hardware perspective they are basically the same thing minus the 3D Capabilities. Oh wait, sorry, the 3DS is a Gyroscope and Accelerometer for even more gimmicky bullshit. In terms of actual processing power, the visuals on the 3DS are almost identical to those on the DSi (sometimes looking worse since that 3D is atrocious).

A large number of the extra's on the 3DS are just software things added to make the system seem like more than a one-trick pony.
I take it you haven't played a 3DS, have you? I'll also restrain from assuming things, but if you compare, say, Mario Kart 7 to Mario Kart DS, surely that statement would be revised. I'm not saying the 3DS is pocket-sized AlienWare, but it is significantly better than the DS. Trust me, if you would own both a DS and a 3DS, you would know.
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#46
TheGuruStud
Mega-Japan
Yes. That is twice the price. To your casual high school Joe who only get a $5/week allowance, that's a lot of money.
I was one of those back in the day, and I was lucky if my family would give me 1 game for christmas.
Things aren't the same as back then. Now mommy and daddy buy them w/e they want so they stfu and have a baby sitter :shadedshu

How else does a 10 yr old have an xbox 360 and PS3 with about 60 games each? That's some serious money.

I'm all about gaming, but kids don't buy anything with money they scrape together.
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#47
zootac
Well M$ shit the bed with me on the 360 iv had 3 them god dam Consoles RROD on me,
my Sony ps2 still works after 10 years and i still use it two this day lol
Any think M$ make in the Consoles Market now i will give it a big miss.
Consoles user and p.c gamer i am.

console = plug in and play
P.C.= upgrade and play.
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#48
Mussels
Moderprator
could make a good media streaming box.
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#49
xenocide
Mega-Japan
I take it you haven't played a 3DS, have you? I'll also restrain from assuming things, but if you compare, say, Mario Kart 7 to Mario Kart DS, surely that statement would be revised. I'm not saying the 3DS is pocket-sized AlienWare, but it is significantly better than the DS. Trust me, if you would own both a DS and a 3DS, you would know.
Mario Kart 7 also came out 7 years after Mario Kart DS. Even on identical hardware games tend to max out the systems much further on in the lifecycle--launch title games always look worse than EoL-era games. Comparing something like Halo 3 and Halo Reach you can see this difference.

I'm not expecting the 3DS to be a portable super-computer, but it's nowhere near the visual capabilities of the Vita, and isn't even as good as an what the iPhone is capable of. If the visuals are better it's not by much. I skipped the 3DS, and have only briefly dealt with a display unit one a few times.
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#50
swaaye
Re: Console upgrades

They fragment the userbase. The upgrades fail and their mere existence reduces confidence in the the base unit, resulting in a really bad situation for all involved. See history.
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