Thursday, March 12th 2015

Logic Supply Unveils Next Generation Industrial NUC

Industrial and embedded computer manufacturer Logic Supply has released a preview of their upcoming ML100 ultra-small form factor industrial PC, combining the compact power of Intel's NUC platform with a ruggedized enclosure. The preview page features product highlights and images of the new system and its unique design features.

"The ML100 is designed to take the NUC places it's never been," said Logic Supply Engineer Hans Brakeley. "In creating the ML100 we wanted to highlight what's made the NUC so successful, its impressive size to performance ratio, and incorporate the features that make Logic Supply computers so unique, their proven industrial reliability. The result is a small form factor industrial PC that's powerful, energy efficient and specifically engineered to stand up to the dust, harsh environments, shock and vibration that our commercial clients face on a daily basis. It also doesn't hurt that it looks so good."
In addition to taking advantage of the latest generation Intel Broadwell processors, one of the ML100 models will feature dual LAN connectivity, a feature often requested by NUC system integrators previously limited to a single LAN port.

The ML100 will launch with two distinct models, the ML100G-10 and ML100G-30. Prices will start around $500.

The ML100G-10 is powered by an Intel Quad Core Bay Trail Celeron N2930 processor, running at 1.83GHz (Turbo up to 2.16GHz). The system will support up to 8GB of DDR3L RAM and up to 1TB of mSATA solid state storage. Front I/O includes USB 2.0, USB 3.0 and an RS232/422/485 COM port. Rear I/O features the dual Gb LAN ports, 2x USB 2.0, 2x HDMI and an optional Terminal Block Power connector with remote switch.

The ML100G-30 features the new Intel Dual Core Broadwell i3 (2.1GHz) and i5 (2.3GHz, Turbo up to 2.9GHz) processors. Memory options include up to 16GB of DDR3L RAM while integrated M.2 support allows for up to 512GB of SSD storage. 2x USB 3.0, RS232/422/485 COM and an audio port are available on the front panel, with Gb LAN, 2x USB 3.0, 2x Mini DisplayPort standard on the rear of the system. The ML100-30 can also be configured with optional DIO and Terminal Block Power with remote switch capabilities.

The ML100G-10
  • Processor: Quad Core Celeron N2930 1.83Ghz (Turbo up to 2.16Ghz)
  • Front I/O: USB 2.0, USB 3.0, RS232/422/485 COM
  • Rear I/O: 2x Gb LAN, 2x USB 2.0, 2x HDMI, Terminal Block Power with Remote Switch (Optional)
  • Memory: Up to 8GB of DDR3L RAM
  • Storage: Up to 1TB mSATA SSD
  • Wireless: Intel AC with Dual Band Antenna
The ML100G-30
  • Processor: Dual Core i3-5010U 2.1GHz/Dual Core i5-5300U 2.3GHz (Turbo up to 2.9GHz)
  • Front I/O: 2x USB 3.0, RS232/422/485 COM, Audio
  • Rear I/O: Gb LAN, 2x USB 3.0, 2x Mini DisplayPort, DIO (Optional), Terminal Block Power with Remote Switch (Optional)
  • Memory: Up to 16GB of DDR3L RAM
  • Storage: Up to 512GB M.2 SSD
  • Wireless: Intel AC with Dual Band Antenna
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10 Comments on Logic Supply Unveils Next Generation Industrial NUC

#1
Uplink10
It is ironic that Dual Core i3-5010U 2.1GHz has roughly the same performance as Quad Core Celeron N2930 1.83Ghz.
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Aquinus
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Uplink10, post: 3253418, member: 154252"
It is ironic that Dual Core i3-5010U 2.1GHz has roughly the same performance as Quad Core Celeron N2930 1.83Ghz.
I think you're missing the part where the N2930 is half the TDP (7.5w) of the i3-5010U (15-watts). The N2930 also has only 4 PCI-E lanes where the i3 has 16. The i3 also supports more and faster memory. I'm pretty sure they both use different PCHs as well. The N2930 is more like an Atom than a Core archite There are plenty of other differences between these two CPUs. The "irony" here is non-existant. :confused:
btarunr, post: 3253150, member: 43587"
The ML100G-10 is powered by an Intel Quad Core Bay Trail Celeron N2930 processor
btarunr, post: 3253150, member: 43587"
The ML100G-30 features the new Intel Dual Core Broadwell i3 (2.1GHz) and i5 (2.3GHz, Turbo up to 2.9GHz) processors.
Congratulations for missing the obvious. :clap:
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Uplink10
Aquinus, post: 3253472, member: 102461"
I'm pretty sure they both use different PCHs as well.
Celeron N2930 is SoC so PCH is part of CPU.

What I meant by ironic is that both have very similar frequency and similar performance but one has twice the cores. Take for example, right now they are selling Bay Trail laptops for under 300$ but what most people don`t know is that 4 core Bay Trail CPU is not that much different than an i3 CPU. It does provide a great marketing opportunity.
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AsRock
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wow, $500 i will skip for sure. I use a 17 inch laptop M 430 only takes 20w and cost that much 3 year ago. and now you can pick a second hand one up for 200-350$.
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#5
Caring1
4 core Atom..I mean Baytrail Celeron would be better in small devices like netbooks, but does anyone even buy them now?
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#6
Uplink10
They are in Mini PCs and they compete with AMD AM1 CPUs even though AM1 CPUs are more powerful.
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Aquinus
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AsRock, post: 3253569, member: 40310"
wow, $500 i will skip for sure. I use a 17 inch laptop M 430 only takes 20w and cost that much 3 year ago. and now you can pick a second hand one up for 200-350$.
You're comparing apples and oranges. This NUC has no openings, no vents, and is fanless. I suspect a laptop won't fare as well in harsh conditions which is what this appears to be designed for considering this NUC has no moving parts whatsoever.
Uplink10, post: 3253871, member: 154252"
They are in Mini PCs and they compete with AMD AM1 CPUs even though AM1 CPUs are more powerful.
AM1 CPUs also tends to have a TDP over twice as high as Bay Trail. In a ventless PC, TDP means almost everything, but you're right, AM1 CPUs tend to give a little more umfph for your money at the cost of TDP. It depends what is important to you for whatever application you're using it for.
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AsRock
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Aquinus, post: 3253907, member: 102461"
You're comparing apples and oranges. This NUC has no openings, no vents, and is fanless. I suspect a laptop won't fare as well in harsh conditions which is what this appears to be designed for considering this NUC has no moving parts whatsoever.

AM1 CPUs also tends to have a TDP over twice as high as Bay Trail. In a ventless PC, TDP means almost everything, but you're right, AM1 CPUs tend to give a little more umfph for your money at the cost of TDP. It depends what is important to you for whatever application you're using it for.
Wont last long either way dust will stop it from letting the heat escaping from it.

I guess it be much easier to clean. And lets face it the place to put it cannot be to harsh or the damage will get in though the connections though the back of it never mind though the front of the unit.

I guess it does have it's place but is limited due to not being water resistant, maybe a steel \wood factory. I just hope the buyer don't think the unit can be ignored due to not having fans or what not.
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Aquinus
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AsRock, post: 3253947, member: 40310"
Wont last long either way dust will stop it from letting the heat escaping from it.

I guess it be much easier to clean. And lets face it the place to put it cannot be to harsh or the damage will get in though the connections though the back of it never mind though the front of the unit.

I guess it does have it's place but is limited due to not being water resistant, maybe a steel \wood factory. I just hope the buyer don't think the unit can be ignored due to not having fans or what not.
Without seeing the inside, you're making some assumptions that could prove to be false. I wouldn't go assuming how well (or in the case of your statement, how not well) it is sealed. Also it's passively cooled, so dust accumlating on it depends on where it is and how it is mounted. Dust doesn't sit on it if it's mounted upside down. Either way, I suspect what this is intended for and what you would use it for are two very different things.
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#10
Mussels
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these are definitely for industrial use.


hell even at my work in a kitchen we get dust flour and oil residue coating all our electronics - something like this you could air compressor off would save me a lot of maintenance work every year.
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