Thursday, April 12th 2018

Quasi-Infinite Deposits of Rare-Earth Metals Found Underneath Japanese Waters

Rare-earth minerals are a bunch of pesky substances that are paramount in many applications - the most important of which, by TPU readers' and news editors' standards, is the enablement of high-tech circuits and applications. Located on the seabed of Japan's shores, in a roughly 965-square-mile Pacific Ocean seabed near Minamitorishima Island, the deposits contain more than 16 million tons of rare-earth oxides, according to a study published in Nature Publishing Group's Scientific Reports.

That's equivalent, researchers say, to 780 years' worth of yttrium supply (used for LEDs, phosphors, electrodes, superconductors...), 620 years of europium (used as dopant in lasers, or as a red phosphor in television sets and fluorescent lamps), 420 years of terbium (used in solid state devices and fuel cells) and 730 years of dysprosium (used for its high thermal neutron absorption in nuclear reactors' control rods, of all things). That's why they're ailing this a "semi-infinite" trove of rare-earth materials.
Calling something infinite is already debatable enough, but semi-infinite almost reaches that point - that's true, surely, considering our own life expectancy and the amount of rare-metals we use today, but I'd think we as a species would love to be here for more than some mere 420 years. The discovery should at least bring some more competitive pricing to the rare-earth materials market, though, which was seemingly cornered (and still is, until Japan can actually get to those resources, which won't be easy) by the world's greatest supplier, China, who increased prices ten-fold. A consortium of Japanese government-backed entities, companies and researchers plans to conduct an extraction feasibility test within the next five years.
Sources: The tremendous potential of deep- sea mud as a source of rare-earth elements - Nature, via CNBC
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44 Comments on Quasi-Infinite Deposits of Rare-Earth Metals Found Underneath Japanese Waters

#26
LemmingOverlord
dozenfuryGood to see that China won't have a monopoly on these rare-earth metals.

It also makes me wonder though what would happen if this type of discovery were made in the South China Sea, given the militarization and disputed ground claims...
Aye. Agree on that. The pacific rim is probably littered with the stuff, and to be honest, I did not feel very comfortable that China, of all places, had a chokehold on the worldwide supply of rare-earth materials. Aussies, Filipinos and Indonesians should also start sampling their shores for this stuff...
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#27
Basard
FreedomEclipseWell, the USA did manage to get the oil from Saddam Hussein in IraQ.... They got away with that pretty well id say.... With the finesse and grace of a ballet dancer.


Unfortunately the US are busy deciding how to tackle Russia and Syria so arent available for a sneaky full scale invasion.
We've got plenty of military left over, lol.
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#28
bug
Where's a moderator when we need the off-topic hammer?
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#29
Caring1
Makes me wonder how any large scale mining will affect already straining fault lines under their islands, and is it really worth it.
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#30
bug
Caring1Makes me wonder how any large scale mining will affect already straining fault lines under their islands,
Large scale is relative, this is all under water. Under 5km of water.
Caring1and is it really worth it.
Well, since rare earths are seldom found in concentrated deposits, the answer is most likely yes.
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#31
R0H1T
xkm1948Same as any country. Greed is basic human nature.
Except not every country builds artificial islands in the middle of nowhere, so that they can claim the whole of South China Sea, & gets away with it.
Not to mention their absurd claim wrt SCS traces back to what is basically ancient history!
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#32
Eric3988
Nothing else like a news story like this can bring out so many America haters and enviro-hipsters
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#33
Divide Overflow
780 years is now "quasi-Infinite"? A touch of journalistic hyperbole, perhaps.
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#34
bug
Divide Overflow780 years is now "quasi-Infinite"? A touch of journalistic hyperbole, perhaps.
I believe the implication here is that by the time we can exhaust that, we'll have probably either moved on from our rare-earths reliance or developed processes to get them from sources that aren't feasible to exploit today.
Otherwise, if you're referring stictly to matter, the whole planet is not quasi-infinite.
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#35
Renald
There's a little problem to that story : it's 6000 meters underwater. So even if they manage to get there, they'll have to build a factory that can sustain 24/7, 6 tonnes by cm² of pressure.

Have fun with that.
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#36
Mistral
Is this the moment when Britania takes over area 11 for its sakuradite?
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#37
Makaveli
RenaldThere's a little problem to that story : it's 6000 meters underwater. So even if they manage to get there, they'll have to build a factory that can sustain 24/7, 6 tonnes by cm² of pressure.

Have fun with that.
Why can't they just bring the minerals up then process it on land?

Why does it have to be done underwater?
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#38
windwhirl
MakaveliWhy can't they just bring the minerals up then process it on land?

Why does it have to be done underwater?
I'm not in the business of mining, but is there even some way to get the materials on land, without going overboard with the costs? I mean, you'd still need something installed underwater to bring all that to whatever facilities you use for processing...
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#39
bug
windwhirlI'm not in the business of mining, but is there even some way to get the materials on land, without going overboard with the costs? I mean, you'd still need something installed underwater to bring all that to whatever facilities you use for processing...
Mineral container ships weren't invented yesterday. But yes, it's not the easiest imaginable thing.
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#40
Renald
MakaveliWhy can't they just bring the minerals up then process it on land?

Why does it have to be done underwater?
Something has to be done underwater, that's the first thing : no lights, high pressure, far from the coast,etc. Not impossible but hell of a problem.
You can think of dragging the mud into containers specifically designed to match the pressure during the course to the bottom from the top (and so not explode).
Second problem : this mud is highly toxic. You don't wanna know what it will cause to stir that kind of thing.

Let's just face reality : our planet is not infinite. We can't use phones like trash (a generation every 8 months ?!?), and empty the ocean until it will be a giant aquarium.

The only thing infinite to our scale is the sun, and processing of nature and time (which is quite slow).
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