Tuesday, October 27th 2020

NVIDIA Allegedly Already Preparing an RTX 3080 Ti Graphics Card

This generation's GPU release is shaping up to be one of the most interesting in late years; for some good reasons, and bad reasons alike. We've heard - keep in mind, not seen - NVIDIA back down from multiple graphics card releases (the double VRAM versions of RTX 3070 and 3080 come to mind); postponing the RTX 3070 until after they have gleaned exactly what AMD will be offering with their RX 6000 series; preparing to launch an RTX 3060 Ti with no announcement whatsoever and before the RTX 3060 is ever launched; and now, apparently, the company is readying a response to AMD's as-of-yet-unannounced RX 6000 series in the form of the RTX 3080 Ti.

Recent performance leaks have placed an unclear AMD GPU (and apparently, not even the fastest Big Navi chip at that) at the same performance level as NVIDIA's RTX 3080, which is a tremendous increase in performance for the red team, coming from years of only being able to effectively compete in the midrange offerings. Now, Kopite7kimi, a known leaker with a proven track record, has claimed that NVIDIA is already prepping a new GA102-based graphics card, sitting in performance between the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090. He lists identifies the GPU as GA102-250-A1, 9984FP32, 384bits GD6X - let's call it the RTX 3080 Ti. If those details are correct, this is yet another product demanding the same 628 mm² GA102 GPU be available for it - in a scenario with inadequate availability of the RTX 3080, 3090, and likely 3070 Ti graphics cards already, should that later one actually materialize. The memory bus on this prospective RTX 3080 Ti is apparently inheriting the same design as the RTX 3090, with a 384-bit solution (compared to the RTX 3080's 320 bit), and likely 12 GB of GDDR6X memory.
Sources: Kopite7kimi @ Twitter, via Videocardz
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77 Comments on NVIDIA Allegedly Already Preparing an RTX 3080 Ti Graphics Card

#26
the54thvoid
Intoxicated Moderator
FrickAnnouncement or release?
Announces. But we should see more informative performance metrics, albeit of a slightly marketed nature.
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#28
Liviu Cojocaru
RaevenlordThe RTX 3080 hasn't once been in stock in Portugal. It's pretty extreme.
Stores in UK have posted their shipped numbers and are far from impressive ... it is quite a bad launch, everyone knows it at this point
Xaledotherwise it is a Cartel..
Not sure how would they proffit if they don't sell cards...
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#29
Tomgang
Oh how interesting. RTX 3080 TI is just what I have been waiting for, now that 3080 20 gb seems to have been canceled.

Now I just hope for good price. 999 usd would be nice. 1200 usd might be to much I will pay. Time will tell.
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#30
Xaled
Liviu CojocaruStores in UK have posted their shipped numbers and are far from impressive ... it is quite a bad launch, everyone knows it at this point


Not sure how would they proffit if they don't sell cards...
They may sell but in low quantity and a higher price, claiming there is high demand. Same as Nvidia has been doing with the 3xxx.
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#31
BoboOOZ
RaevenlordThe RTX 3080 hasn't once been in stock in Portugal. It's pretty extreme.
I think at this point they temporarily abandoned the EU market and they are trying to concentrate on the US, where the market is less forgiving and the media coverage is better.
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#32
RedelZaVedno
3080TI in the making = Big Navi's gonna beat 3080

I really hope RDNA2 undercuts 3080 price wise. That would mean everything needs to come down in pricing. AKA 3080TI to $699, 3080 to $599 and probably 3070 into $400 range. I'm gonna go with AMD this time around, just to help the underdog. AMD is really giving us awesome products lately. One has to reward the effort.
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#33
Zach_01
Xaledotherwise it is a Cartel..
You may be right...
If this 3080Ti is priced around 1000~1100$ and beats the 3080 10GB by 5% (middle point from 3090) then it will make it more easy for AMD to price the higher 6000 and alleged 3080 10GB beater close to 900~1000$.
:clap:

I hope not...
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#34
ratirt
RedelZaVedno3080TI in the making = Big Navi's gonna beat 3080

I really hope RDNA2 undercuts 3080 price wise. That would mean everything needs to come down in pricing. AKA 3080TI to $699, 3080 to $599 and probably 3070 into $400 range. I'm gonna go with AMD this time around, just to help the underdog. AMD is really giving us awesome products lately. One has to reward the effort.
This is never happening. $699 for 3080 Ti ? It's not wishful thinking you are looking for miracles and these does not happen in the business.
The AMD underdog is quite amusing :) Kudos for that :)
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#35
BoboOOZ
ratirtThe AMD underdog is quite amusing :) Kudos for that :)
What's so funny about that? Do you think the Radeon Graphics division is of similar size, or has a similar market share to Nvidia?
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#36
ratirt
BoboOOZWhat's so funny about that? Do you think the Radeon Graphics division is of similar size, or has a similar market share to Nvidia?
He didn't say AMD's graphics division but AMD. As a company, no I don't think AMD is an underdog.
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#37
BoboOOZ
ratirtHe didn't say AMD's graphics division but AMD. As a company, no I don't think AMD is an underdog.
This is a discussion about graphic cards. Come on, you're better than that...
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#38
chris.london
BoboOOZThey don't have enough cores of any kind, availability is very low for both 3090 and 3080. And rumors coming from resellers seem to point out that it's the same for the 3070.
My theory is that Nvidia are holding back dies on purpose. They got spooked by AMD and now they are planning a relauch of Ampere with faster models after the Big Navi launch. (And a refresh on 7nm in the 2nd half of 2021.)
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#39
kapone32
What is Nvidia doing? Launch cards that no one can buy, announce cards available only in certain markets (with pre orders), cancel another launch and tease a card that is purported to be better than what your CEO called the fastest Gaming GPU period? I hope everyone realizes that all of this noise has been an attempt to rain on AMD's parade. On top of that has it even been a month since the 3080 launched?
Xaledotherwise it is a Cartel..
Where are you getting your theories from? There is no collusion between AMD and Nvidia.
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#40
Chrispy_
ratirtThis new card is going to be cut down 3090 as I suppose. It won't be rebranded 3090 that's for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if the price was $1200 for the 3080 TI or whatever it will be called.
The 3080 is already a cut down 3090 which has only 68 SMs

12GB 3080 with 78 SMs and if they don't adjust pricing to compete with AMD then I guess it would be another $200 for the higher-yield silicon and extra couple of GDDR6X modules.
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#41
ratirt
BoboOOZThis is a discussion about graphic cards. Come on, you're better than that...
Are you better than that? It is a discussion about the AMD company releasing new graphics cards. So are the graphics cards an underdog or AMD as a company or maybe AMD's graphics department is an underdog?
AMD is not an underdog.
Change my mind.
Chrispy_The 3080 is already a cut down 3090 which has only 68 SMs

12GB 3080 with probably 72-76 SMs is what I think the 3080Ti will be and if they don't adjust pricing to compete with AMD then I guess it would be another $200 for the higher-yield silicon and extra couple of GDDR6X modules.
I don't know. The leaks say between 3080 and 3090. So it will be cut down 3090 but with more sm's. Actually 3090 is a cut down version of the chip anyway.
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#42
RedelZaVedno
ratirtThis is never happening. $699 for 3080 Ti ? It's not wishful thinking you are looking for miracles and these does not happen in the business.
The AMD underdog is quite amusing :) Kudos for that :)
It's gonna happen IF Big Navi beats 3080 and AMD price it at $599. In that case 3080TI would only be able to trade blows with Big Navi given the fact that 3090 is only 9% faster than 3080 and 3080Ti will have 5% less shading units than 3090. Ngreedia can price 100 bucks more given much better brand recognition, but no more than that, if it doesn't want to repeat Intel's Zen nightmare. But as I've said it before, it will all come down to RDNA2 price/performance ratio & absolute performance of it's top tier offerings.
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#43
Chrispy_
ratirtAMD is not an underdog.
Change my mind.
RTG (AMD graphics division) is the underdog. They don't have a majority share of the dGPU market - and I'm talking all dGPU markets - consumers, prosumers, enterprise, or datacenter.
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#44
ratirt
RedelZaVednoIt's gonna happen IF Big Navi beats 3080 and AMD price it at $599
Do you really believe that $599 for AMD card 3080 performance like ?
Chrispy_RTG (AMD graphics division) is the underdog. They don't have a majority share of the dGPU market - and I'm talking all dGPU markets - consumers, prosumers, enterprise, or datacenter.
So it would seem that the AMD RTG is an underdog but the global AMD company isn't.
Hmm.
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#45
RH92
BoboOOZThey don't have enough cores of any kind, availability is very low for both 3090 and 3080. And rumors coming from resellers seem to point out that it's the same for the 3070.
Don't get yourself confused , it is true that Samsung manufacturing capabilities are far from being enough to meet the demand and this for all SKUs BUT this doesn't mean that their defect rate ratio on 3090 cores isn't enough to allow Nvidia to create a 3080Ti SKU . Also from what i've seen on Proshop.de report 3070 availability seems to be much more ample than 3080/3090 , still not enough to totally meet the demand but ample non the less .
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#46
Chrispy_
ratirtDo you really believe that $599 for AMD card 3080 performance like ?


So it would seem that the AMD RTG is an underdog but the global AMD company isn't.
Hmm.
Technically the global AMD company is still an underdog as they don't have the marketshare for CPUs either (yet).
Another year or two of Intel screwing up should mean that even the most heavily coerced enterprise clients and OEMs can't ignore their dominance any longer.
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#47
wolf
Performance Enthusiast
Wow those poll options are pathetic. Let's not let facts get in the way of clicks hey.
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#48
RedelZaVedno
ratirtDo you really believe that $599 for AMD card 3080 performance like ?
It might, if AMD decides to attack Nvidia's discrete GPU market share. They did it to Intel and it worked. I see no reason why Lisa would not pull the same strategy on Nvidia. They're on much better node, no problems with yields, plenty of production spare capacity since mobile producers have moved to TSMC's 5nm. On the other hand Nvidia seems stuck on Samsung's low yielding 8nm (10nm in reality), not suitable for big chips node. At least for now. Now is the time to make Nvidia bleed.
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#49
TumbleGeorge
ratirtThis is never happening. $699 for 3080 Ti ? It's not wishful thinking you are looking for miracles and these does not happen in the business.
The AMD underdog is quite amusing :) Kudos for that :)
Why not GTX 1080 ti launch price remember? With amount of LoL 11GB GDDR5X in time of release that was tremendous size for gaming card. What is different today and reason for $1k+ And just 2GB more VRAM for ~$25-30 is not reason to lift price with $300+.
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#50
ratirt
Chrispy_Technically the global AMD company is still an underdog as they don't have the marketshare for CPUs either (yet).
Another year or two of Intel screwing up should mean that even the most heavily coerced enterprise clients and OEMs can't ignore their dominance any longer.
I think you are being too liberal with the word "underdog" which basically means that the company being an underdog is weaker and has no chance of winning or achieving a success with the competing company. Now, what is winning or success here? Getting market share (it is growing like crazy for AMD and market sahre can't be restored within a month or two) or releasing a product (in this case graphics card) that will perform very well with a decent price in comparison to the competing company?
Just to add. Market share for AMD (CPU) from 2018 Q3 till 2020 Q3 went up by 18%. It is oscillating at around 37%. Meaning it is growing. Still underdog ? Thoughts?
Question. When AMD will not become an underdog in your eyes? When it reaches 50% or more? The odds are it will for sure so do we have to wait till it does?
TumbleGeorgeWhy not GTX 1080 ti launch price remember? With amount of LoL 11GB GDDR5X in time of release that was tremendous size for gaming card. What is different today and reason for $1k+ And just 2GB more VRAM for ~$25-30 is not reason to lift price with $300+.
Of course I remember. Good times.
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