Wednesday, November 4th 2020

NVIDIA Reportedly Working on GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Graphics Card with 20 GB GDDR6X VRAM

A leak from renowned (and usually on-point) leaker Kopite7kimi claims that NVIDIA has finally settled on new graphics cards to combat AMD's RX 6800 threat after all. After the company has been reported (and never confirmed) to be working on double-memory configurations for their RTX 3070 and RTX 3080 graphics cards (with 16 GB GDDR6 and 20 GB GDDR6X, respectively), the company is now reported to have settled for a 20 GB RTX 3080 Ti to face a (apparently; pending independent reviews) resurgent AMD.

The RTX 3080 Ti specs paint a card with the same CUDA core count as the RTX 3090, with 10496 FP32 cores over the same 320-bit memory bus as the RTX 3080. Kopite includes board and SKU numbers (PG133 SKU 15) along a new GPU codename: GA102-250. The performance differentiator against the RTX 3090 stands to be the memory amount, bus, and eventually core clockspeed; memory speed and board TGP are reported to mirror those of the RTX 3080, so some reduced clocks compared to that graphics card are expected. That amount of CUDA cores means NVIDIA is essentially divvying-up the same GA-102 die between its RTX 3090 (good luck finding one in stock) and the reported RTX 3080 Ti (so good luck finding one of those in stock as well, should the time come). It is unclear how pricing would work out for this SKU, but pricing comparable to that of the RX 6900 XT is the more sensible speculation. Take this report with the usual amount of NaCl.
Sources: Kopite7kimi @ Twitter, via Videocardz
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136 Comments on NVIDIA Reportedly Working on GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Graphics Card with 20 GB GDDR6X VRAM

#76
Nater
AusWolf
The thing is, nvidia already has a full product stack:
  • it starts with the almost ready 3060,
  • then at least 3 different variants of the non-existent 3060 Ti,
  • the only-real-product 3070,
  • then again 5 dreamed up variants of the 3070 Ti,
  • the gone-with-the-wind 3080 with 4 theoretical Ti revisions,
  • the can't-touch-this 3090 and the Maybe Titan to top it all off.
I'm pretty sure Jensen is cooking the latest Super news as we speak just to satisfy us even more. :rolleyes:
Man I just heard the Street Fighter announcer.

Nvidia RTX QUADRO GEFORCE 3100X Ti NITRO SUPER TOURNAMENT ULTRA TITAN EDITION!
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#77
beedoo
You'd hope NVidia were working on a 3080Ti, but honestly, it's too soon. If I'd bought a 3080 at release, I would be fairly annoyed by a successor (flagshhip model) arriving so soon.

Clearly a knee-jerk reaction to AMD's line-up.
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#78
medi01
xman2007
Funny at people hating on AMD, Ngreedia are the ones who set the absurd prices with ampere, and most of you probably went out and bought them, now AMD has parity and are pricing their gpu's the same their the bad guy, let's face it, those complaining would have only waited for nvidia to drop their prices when AMD had an equal performer at a lower price, but they seem to be equal or even better and getting hate because they're not half the price of nvidia :kookoo::roll:
You are getting that wrong.
It is the other way around, Huang new Navi is coming so no more fun with pricing.
Compare it to turing, 2080Ti + 20-30% for $699, why so cheap?
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#79
Bones
medi01
:D:D:D

I guess this means:


Nah - More like it's safe to get those bots ready to buy.......
And they will if history is any indication of things.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
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#80
InVasMani
ExcuseMeWtf
Did that look stressed to you?

Or do you plan to buy RTX 3080 for exclusive 1080p 60 fps experience? :D
Based on what I've seen of RNDA2 for 4K and 1440p and how things scale and tilt significantly going from 4K down to 1440p I wouldn't hold my breath on Ampere being better at 1080p on value for dollar. We shall see though in due time how it plays out and unfolds.
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#81
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
ExcuseMeWtf
Did that look stressed to you?

Or do you plan to buy RTX 3080 for exclusive 1080p 60 fps experience? :D
I am going to buy what ever is fastest and available Q1 next year. I don't care if its red or green.
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#82
xman2007
medi01
You are getting that wrong.
It is the other way around, Huang new Navi is coming so no more fun with pricing.
Compare it to turing, 2080Ti + 20-30% for $699, why so cheap?
it's not cheap though, and you still have $500/$700 and now $1500 pricing and as per the latest news, 2080ti will slot nicely into $800+ price point, regardless of performance improvement, here's the thing, with new GPU's the performance is MEANT to improve on last gen, go figure huh? that doesn't mean that in 2023 you should be paying $1500 for **70 cause 3x better than 2070 in 2019
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#83
Paganstomp
get to work you Chinese slaves! Americans want their product!
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#84
lexluthermiester
Paganstomp
get to work you Chinese slaves! Americans want their product!
Actually, it's Korea and Taiwan.
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#85
WeeRab
Sicofante
You all think this is just another gaming card? How naive...

The 3090 is a workstation class GPU that will be sold in droves to VFX studios and freelancers, who will buy them in pairs to use NVlink and get a much needed 48 GB for 3D rendering.

The 3080 Ti fills the gap for low end workstations. The 3080 10 GB just don't cut it for rendering or even complex video editing and FX. AMD's 6900 XT was looking like the right purchase until this announcement.

That's why this 3080 Ti makes tons of sense outside gaming. I for one, will buy it the instant I can find it in stock.
More fool you then. The 3090 doesn't come with the production-specific drivers that would make it that good outside of gaming. (nor will a 3080ti)
All that will come with the £3000 Titan variant.
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#86
wolf
Performance Enthusiast
medi01
AMD is kicking NV's ass, NV is trying to react.
They haven't even launched their products yet, no consumers have them and Nvidia is getting it's ass.... kicked?

RIP Nvidia right? How could they possibly survive this flogging.
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#87
gmn 17
If its US$899 with these specs, then I’ll get one
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#88
Xex360
Besides availability, they just to adjust their pricing, the 3070 should be priced around 450$, 3080 600$, and obviously make the same prices everywhere, where there is no excessive taxes.
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#89
InVasMani
wolf
They haven't even launched their products yet, no consumers have them and Nvidia is getting it's ass.... kicked?

RIP Nvidia right? How could they possibly survive this flogging.
I get what you're saying, but Nvidia is certainly reacting though getting it's ***...kicked is a healthy exaggeration of course. It's one generation of GPU's and sure AMD might have the better architecture, but they still have to move the product and have enough SKU's to remain flexible with the amount Nvidia offers that could take away sales that might go to AMD. Plus beyond all of that Nvidia financially is very sound they could probably have 3 relatively terrible generations of architectures kind of on par with Fermi and still on a fairly even footing with AMD. Right now Nvidia's financial situation is more sound than AMD's by a larger margin Ampere will in no way make or break the company. On the other hand RNDA2 won't make or break AMD either, but it will make a notable impact to their future if they execute well and move enough of those chips with enough flexible option points. How that all plays out is still somewhat undecided. I think AMD has a good design based on what I see, but honestly the RX6800 is a bit higher price and TDP than I'm leaning towards though it's close. If they can scale it down a slight amount further at a better power draw and price that would be great I want to see what a RX6700 or RX6750 looks like possibly even a RX6600 or RX6650.
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#90
Metroid
Yeah this was the only choice they have at moment. I predicted this.
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#91
wolf
Performance Enthusiast
InVasMani
I get what you're saying, but Nvidia is certainly reacting though getting it's ***...kicked is a healthy exaggeration of course. It's one generation of GPU's and sure AMD might have the better architecture, but they still have to move the product and have enough SKU's to remain flexible with the amount Nvidia offers that could take away sales that might go to AMD. Plus beyond all of that Nvidia financially is very sound they could probably have 3 relatively terrible generations of architectures kind of on par with Fermi and still on a fairly even footing with AMD. Right now Nvidia's financial situation is more sound than AMD's by a larger margin Ampere will in no way make or break the company. On the other hand RNDA2 won't make or break AMD either, but it will make a notable impact to their future if they execute well and move enough of those chips with enough flexible option points. How that all plays out is still somewhat undecided. I think AMD has a good design based on what I see, but honestly the RX6800 is a bit higher price and TDP than I'm leaning towards though it's close. If they can scale it down a slight amount further at a better power draw and price that would be great I want to see what a RX6700 or RX6750 looks like possibly even a RX6600 or RX6650.
Exactly, it's quite the exaggeration, Nvidia is likely just getting ducks in a row to effectively answer AMD products, like maybe price tweaks or additional SKU's, but this notion that they're getting they ass kicked and are sweating bullets or in a corner crying and is just ridiculous. They will just do what they need to do and you know what, they'll be just fine at the end of the day. To say for the past ~ two generations AMD got it's ass kicked would be far more accurate.
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#92
dinmaster
amd having the console market will help a lot with optimizing for their products even on pc. The cpu - gpu connection which lets the cpu use gpu resources is probably something that came from console rnd. Amd is in a good position like their cpu's for a come back. sure rdna 1, 2, then 3 like the zen 3 could be a push ahead, i like the strategy that amd is executing currently. If they master the power usage then they will have a real winner on their hands even if performance is slightly behind. power here has gone up and on peak times are 20.5c cad per kwh...
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#93
purecain
Didnt the new PlayStation use a weaker GPU compared to the new Xbox due to the infinity cashe helping out. They state the performance lift is there so the 5900x and the 6900xt look like the cpu/gpu combo to go for.
Even if Nvidia release a 3080ti now, the damage has already been done. Their availability and Nvidia's bad choices have really let them down this time around. I bet those who bought the 3080 are not feeling too great about the ti model being released so quickly after they were reassured there wasnt going to be one(not for a while in any case).
Although whats announced and what actually gets to market, are two different things altogether this year.

I'm praying AMD pull it off and get back on top form rolling into 2021 as top dog... I cant wait to have Radeon card in what will be an almost fully AMD system (again).
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#94
wolf
Performance Enthusiast
purecain
I bet those who bought the 3080 are not feeling too great about the ti model being released so quickly after they were reassured there wasnt going to be one(not for a while in any case).
Not even slightly feeling what you suggest. Tech ALWAYS gets superseded, the sooner or later changes but it always happens, anyone buying any tech should be comfortable with that notion or you're setting yourself up for disappointment. I got a massive upgrade (up from a GTX1080) at a very justifiable price point for the 200%+ performance uplift I got, considering I bought the GTX1080 launch week too, and have already been enjoying this performance level since launch (I will grant that while I put in some work to secure the order, I am 'lucky'). Add to that the card runs cool and virtually silent, I am still extremely happy with it and have Finished Control, HZD and a full DOOM Eternal Replay on it so far.
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#95
evernessince
Nvidia is pulling out all the stops to distract people from upcoming RDNA2 cards.
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#96
purecain
I'm glad you feel no remorse, i know i would feel a little sore about it though personally. I'm glad i lost my 3090 strix oc pre order. Im looking forwards to seeing amd's cpu and gpu work together, the pixel fillrate is double what my titan V can output and the performance of that card is amazing. I'm also interested in the performance uplift of just the 5900x over the 3900x. :toast:
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#97
thesmokingman
Sicofante
Again: clueless. 3D rendering uses single precision and Studio drivers are good enough. That's why most studios don't use Quadros anymore. Even Nvidia is phasing out Quadros...


Nope, sorry. VFX Studios haven't used Quadros for a while and you definitely don't need them for Maya or Blender.


What kind of shit exactly?

You all take a look at what Puget Systems, for instance, is putting in the workstations they sell. Read a little.
While all that may be true, it still doesn't make the 3090 a workstation class card. And workstation class doesn't necessarily equal a render station which can get by single or half precision. The 3090 would get pounded by an old VII in double precision so you'd never pick it for a scientific workload, ie. not a workstation card. It's a halo product!
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#98
DeathtoGnomes
This so called leak is a fishing expedition to see if there would be enough interest in a Ti revision. The small gains would not warrant a competitive price tag with the 3090 and in fact would likely even take away from 3090 sales, because "everyone knows a Ti is the best you can get!"
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#99
thesmokingman
DeathtoGnomes
This so called leak is a fishing expedition to see if there would be enough interest in a Ti revision. The small gains would not warrant a competitive price tag with the 3090 and in fact would likely even take away from 3090 sales, because "everyone knows a Ti is the best you can get!"
Yea, that just highlights that it's a problem Nvidia put themselves into with only a 10% performance gap between the 3080 and 3090. And even if they made a 3080ti it would still lose to a 6900xt albeit if the 6900xt turns out to really be comparable to a 3090. There's no where for them to go with a 6900xt at priced at 1k.
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#100
InVasMani
wolf
Not even slightly feeling what you suggest. Tech ALWAYS gets superseded, the sooner or later changes but it always happens, anyone buying any tech should be comfortable with that notion or you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
That's true tech innovation never lasts forever and normally quickly replaced with something better. The real question is how much better and at what value point. I think AMD's done well with RNDA2 from it appears like, but they defiantly gotta get more SKU's out there and the sooner they do so the better is my feeling.

I feel like 6 more SKU's from AMD would be smart add 3 below the RX6800 with 44/48/52CU's and 3 above the RX6800XT with 88/92/96CU's. The both designs could reduce the infinity fabric to 96MB with the higher end design swapping out the GDDR6 for HBM2 to offset the bandwidth while reducing power and allow for die space for the additional CU's. I think I'd just retain the same bus width or make one 192-bit and the other 320-bit. Probably keeping the bus the same would be easiest and less involved, but either way. I think though with those CU value's and the same board design and infinity cache size it would make it easier to ramp up both. The less than ideal die's could be cut in half and turned into low end models while the better quality ones used for the higher end models.
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