Friday, November 19th 2021

Intel Core i7-12700H Beats Ryzen 9 5900HX by 47% In Leaked Cinebench Scores

Intel is expected to announce their Alder Lake mobile processors in Q1 2022 with rumors and leaks for several of these chips already surfacing. The i7-12700H has recently been spotted running Cinebench on what could possibly be an MSI GE76 Raider 12UH with the results showing impressive performance gains. The processor features six Golden Cove (P) cores and eight Gracemont (E) cores for a total of 14 cores and 20 threads.

The i7-12700H includes a configurable base TDP of 35 W - 45 W and this specific sample was running at a reported base frequency of 2.9 GHz during testing. The processor scored 689 points in Cinebench R20 single-core which places it 12% faster than the Core i9-11950H and 21% faster than AMD's flagship Ryzen 9 5900HX. The processor widens this gap in Cinebench R20 multi-core with a score of 7158 points placing it 47% above the 8-core, 16-thread Ryzen 9 5900HX. We can also see that multi-core performance is 49% faster than the recently released Apple M1 Max in Cinebench R23. AMD is preparing their Ryzen 6000 processors for an early 2022 launch which will be competing with these Alder Lake chips but we have yet to see many performance leaks for them to compare with.
Source: Notebook Check
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70 Comments on Intel Core i7-12700H Beats Ryzen 9 5900HX by 47% In Leaked Cinebench Scores

#51
Richards
nguyen

Oh boy Intel mobile CPU sure runs hot :roll:
Beautiful
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#52
dicktracy
AMD was already irrelevant for laptops before ADL. It’s definitely over now.
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#53
Soupsammich
Quit
rares495Aaaaand it's gonna hit 100 degrees in 10 seconds then throttle like any mobile Intel chip ever. Good luck cooling Alder Lake in a laptop.
Quit whining, grab your laptop, and climb into the bathtub of ice cubes.
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#54
mb194dc
Just wait for reviews under controlled conditions. No need for the fan boy wars.

As seen with desktop Alder Lake, if you're prepared to use Windows 11 and need the kind of workloads these chips excel at, are prepared to change board etc, then can make sense for you.

These leaks are just not worth anyone's time.
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#55
RandallFlagg
TiggerLaptops are shit

If it does seem to be that fast nice.

TDP says 35-45, where is 100 watts coming from-

-Oh yeah, just another chance to bash Intel
This bias and positive feedback loop is pretty interesting. Review sites are on board with it too because it gets them clicks.

This old post, about the 3300X :

"This is some kind of cognitive bias. In December 2019 Tom's says the i3-9350K is 'too little too late'. Then in May 2020 they say the 3300x is 'just what gamers need'.... It looks to me like these merely prove that games are not actually all that reliant on multiple threads."

i3-9350K was faster than the 3300X, and 6 months earlier.

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-ryzen-3-3300x.266716/post-4260501
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#56
Pumper
AMD fanboys really are in denial.

5900HX is 45W+ CPU, and yet the fanboys only shit on 12700H for being max 45W.
All high end laptop CPUs get hot as fuck, but somehow only Intel sucks because of it (when the 5900HX is listed as 105C CPU and gets to 95C when gaming).
When AMD offers better MT performance with their higher core count CPUs vs. Intel at the same price point, it's a win for AMD, when Intel does it, it's suddenly not fair and irrelevant because AMD has less cores.
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#57
Yraggul
Oh let me guess, bechmark scores are relevant again, right?
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#58
Why_Me
Like most Intel threads on here I see posters losing their s***.

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#59
Crackong
mb194dcThese leaks are just not worth anyone's time.
Agreed.
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#60
Ahhzz
Guys, keep the name calling and team-sports outta here. you can state opinions without being aggressive, and if you can't, then don't post. Or you won't.
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#61
Caring1
nguyen

Oh boy Intel mobile CPU sure runs hot :roll:
Pointless chart if it doesn't show what laptops are used or the cTDP for the chips.
A fair comparison would be to constrain both to 45W constant, then check temps.
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#62
nguyen
Caring1Pointless chart if it doesn't show what laptops are used or the cTDP for the chips.
A fair comparison would be to constrain both to 45W constant, then check temps.
I left the name of the clip on purpose, you can go check it out,Jarrod's Tech is a good channel for laptop reviews too.

FYI both Laptops in the test come from XMG, the only difference between them are the CPUs, which are left at default 45W TDP, this is as apple to apple comparison as it gets because both laptop have the same cooling solution.
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#63
Tigger
I'm the only one
nguyen

Oh boy Intel mobile CPU sure runs hot :roll:
Looks to me more like the ryzen will hit 100 in 5 seconds
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#64
Pilgrim
I mean it has 14 cores. If it doesn't beat the 8 core 5900HX, Intel should close shop and go home.
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#65
pantherx12
Caring1Correction:A Mobile CPU draws as much power as the manufacturer allow it.
Buy a Dell laptop with a 45W CPU that's set to 20W max.
I bought my partner a first gen Ryzen laptop, I thought whilst it won't be as good as a up to date laptop it should play basic games and run recently with a 25wtdp.

HP had set the TDP to 11w, so it doesn't have the power budget to do anything really, it will priotise power to the CPU causing massive frame rate drops even when playing Minecraft with basic graphical settings.

Manufacturers shouldn't be able to do this, at the very least they should make it very clear that you are not getting the expected performance.

Can't even change its TDP setting.

And the reason ( i suspect) for such a low tdp?

They didn't bother engineering a proper cooling solution for this chip so there's a 1mm gap between the heatsink and the chip.

Put a shim in there and temperatures dropped by 30c under load!

Rediculous, sorry end rant.
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#66
RandallFlagg
pantherx12I bought my partner a first gen Ryzen laptop, I thought whilst it won't be as good as a up to date laptop it should play basic games and run recently with a 25wtdp.

HP had set the TDP to 11w, so it doesn't have the power budget to do anything really, it will priotise power to the CPU causing massive frame rate drops even when playing Minecraft with basic graphical settings.

Manufacturers shouldn't be able to do this, at the very least they should make it very clear that you are not getting the expected performance.

Can't even change its TDP setting.

And the reason ( i suspect) for such a low tdp?

They didn't bother engineering a proper cooling solution for this chip so there's a 1mm gap between the heatsink and the chip.

Put a shim in there and temperatures dropped by 30c under load!

Rediculous, sorry end rant.
This is why laptops that are certified to meet a certain standard are best if you're not able to find or not willing to hunt down reviews / vids on your specific laptop. The obvious one is Intel Evo, that doesn't guarantee top performance but at least it meets some base standard and isn't total garbage. IDK if AMD has a similar program or not.

The generally crappy build and thermals of AMD laptops was one of the things that turned me off of AMD early last year, I was looking at the A15 and Dell G5 with the 4800H and they overheat all the time. There are some "fixes" for this that mostly involve cutting your laptop case up...

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#67
Tigger
I'm the only one
RandallFlaggThis is why laptops that are certified to meet a certain standard are best if you're not able to find or not willing to hunt down reviews / vids on your specific laptop. The obvious one is Intel Evo, that doesn't guarantee top performance but at least it meets some base standard and isn't total garbage. IDK if AMD has a similar program or not.

The generally crappy build and thermals of AMD laptops was one of the things that turned me off of AMD early last year, I was looking at the A15 and Dell G5 with the 4800H and they overheat all the time. There are some "fixes" for this that mostly involve cutting your laptop case up...

Sometimes i think a nice tablet is better than a laptop, unless you think you're gonna get a gaming laptop that's not a cooker, be it Intel or Ryzen. For pure productivity though the Tablet is probably better as it won't need extensive cooling
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#68
londiste
TiggerSometimes i think a nice tablet is better than a laptop, unless you think you're gonna get a gaming laptop that's not a cooker, be it Intel or Ryzen. For pure productivity though the Tablet is probably better as it won't need extensive cooling
Tablet for productivity needs some other things like keyboard. For anything that tablet can do well enough, would not heat up a laptop to be a cooker either.
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#69
xorbe
Whatever benchmark gets trotted out by either company is generally useless and/or tainted.
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#70
ratirt
TiggerSometimes i think a nice tablet is better than a laptop, unless you think you're gonna get a gaming laptop that's not a cooker, be it Intel or Ryzen. For pure productivity though the Tablet is probably better as it won't need extensive cooling
I kinda think that gaming laptops are a marketing scheme. You can buy one but the heat the power and everything is basically messed up and yet you pay a lot for them and the performance for any given GPU is lower than any same GPU chip in a desktop. I got a laptop 2 months or so ago and I been looking just to check the prices and what you can get for the money if I'd go for a gaming one. Ridiculous prices. You can game but the heat and power constraints bring the system down very much.
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