Monday, April 16th 2007

NVIDIA 8600 and 8500 details

With the GeForce 8600 set to go on sale tomorrow, the details of the 8600 and 8500 series cards have been published by DailyTech – although they aren’t 100% certain, it’s certainly a more trustworthy source of information than other sites you may find. All three of the cards will be 128-bit, and the details are listed in the table below. As you can see, the specs seem to tie-in with those released by ASUS for the 8600GTS at least. These mid-range cards should start to trickle onto shelves over the coming weeks, offering DirectX 10 capabilities at a noticeably lower price than the 8800s. Obviously price will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, and there will be slight changes to some clock speeds, but in general they should line up like this:
Source: DailyTech
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16 Comments on NVIDIA 8600 and 8500 details

#1
jocksteeluk
I'm hoping these releases will lower the price of the 8800 cards, id expect the 87 and 89 numbers are reserved for the revised models that will no doubt be released when AMD lastest cards get released.
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#2
TUngsten
pretty underwhelming specs...tho the 8600gts has potential - what's the pricepoint on the 8600GTS?

what's with the differentiated "shader clock" spec?
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#3
Tatty_One
Senior Moderator
I am very interested in two 8600GTS's for SLi come my birthday in June, I am changing my rig toi C2D with an Asus P5N-E Sli 650I mobo so I would be intersted to see what kind of price these would come in at and how a single 8600GTS would perform (in DX9) against the current high end DX9 offerings from both NVidia and ATi.......anyone got any vague thoughts/idea's???

Two are going to be out of my price range if they are more than about £120 each. Ohhhh yeah, power consumption will also play a significant part!
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#4
kwchang007
how much are these vid cards supposed to cost?
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#5
ghost101
The 8600GTS has only 32 stream processors? I thought it was supposed to have 64. Otherwise the gap between it and the 8800gts is huge. 96 vs 32. Its a 1/4 of the processors of the 8800gtx. When has there been such a gap between the top end and midrange product?

In terms of pipelines:

7800gtx vs 7600gt was 24 vs 12
6800gt vs 6600gt was 16 vs 8
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#6
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
Seems like the mid and low range card users will be the winners here. These competing with the lower and middle tiered ati cards should prove interesting.
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#7
ghost101
WarEagleAU said:
Seems like the mid and low range card users will be the winners here. These competing with the lower and middle tiered ati cards should prove interesting.
Mid range users, i.e people with a 7900gs or x1950pro, will have to buy the 8800gts. This is a shambles of a product for a midrange GPU.

It is a low end product, it is so far behind the top runners. 128/96 processors vs 32 and 384/320bit vs 128bit.

I think there will be a 8600gtx product with 64 stream processors.

With the past generation, the midrange GPU has been equal to the top end of the last generation.

7600gt/x1650xt = x850xt/6800ultra
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#8
Redshift
im just excited i can finally see what my new card is gonna perform like! ;)
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#9
tkpenalty
Memory speeds are sorta slow... I would expect something two times the speed of that...
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#10
ghost101
tkpenalty said:
Memory speeds are sorta slow... I would expect something two times the speed of that...
They are twice those speeds ;) .

Would have thought youd have known that.

You can work it out by using the bandwidth figure they give,

if it was 1 ghz

1 * 128 = 128Gbits/sec = 16Gbytes/sec
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#11
theonetruewill
ghost101 said:
Mid range users, i.e people with a 7900gs or x1950pro, will have to buy the 8800gts. This is a shambles of a product for a midrange GPU.

It is a low end product, it is so far behind the top runners. 128/96 processors vs 32 and 384/320bit vs 128bit.

I think there will be a 8600gtx product with 64 stream processors.

With the past generation, the midrange GPU has been equal to the top end of the last generation.

7600gt/x1650xt = x850xt/6800ultra
8600 is hardly midrange. I reckon a 1950 pro is midrange for DX9. The 8600 is surely low to mid at best. It still will be a budget card, just like the 7600 series. Also the X1650Xt was out a little to late for that midrange-beats-former-top-end argument to hold much water. Its more like the X1600XT = X850XT ...but actually X850XT> X1600XT
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#12
Redshift
oh yeah, any one know what kind of wattage these babies are gonna require?
i know the 8800 gts supposedly needs 400 watts but according to anandtech its recommended you use 450 watts. i figure the 8600 will be in that range.... i really don't want to switch out my 430 watt coolermaster :(
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#13
theonetruewill
I'm sure they'll even up their midrange with an 8800GT and 8800GS at some point. I mean this is pretty early in their DX10 line of GPU's development.
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#14
wazzledoozle
32 stream processors seems really weak, the 8800GTS has 96 for only around $50 more.

I'd place my bets that ATI's mid range cards (on 65nm!) will slaughter these.
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#15
ghost101
wazzledoozle said:
32 stream processors seems really weak, the 8800GTS has 96 for only around $50 more.

I'd place my bets that ATI's mid range cards (on 65nm!) will slaughter these.
Yep, a role reversal of the 7600gt vs x1600xt story.
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#16
Joshmcmillan
There coming out in Australia tomorrow (18-4-07) 8500GTS is only AUD$160!! Spose it's crap. How long wld ppl guess untill Nvidia releases a DX10 Card that is decent and costs less then AUD$250??? Like the equivelent of 7600GT in price and quality except DX10.
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