Caselabs were infamous for having their design 100% stolen by ThermalTake and then lacking the money to follow through on the lawsuit against Thermaltake.

I ****ing hate Thermaltake because they are scumbags of the first order for blatant, multi-discipline IP theft, but Caselabs' old product portfolio isn't really a great fit for the current PC builder market; I really hope they come up with something new and relevant rather than trying to cater to the eight people who are still interested in their pre-death product lineup.

If they're going to stick to the original theme of multi-radiator, aluminium cases then there's definitely a market but it's a more contested market than it used to be.

SN2716057YES! My Mercury S8 needs some new parts asap, and a type-c front panel would be nice.

Same!

Also need some 5.25" blanks, i had to rework some Lian Li's and they don't quite match.

Cheers!

A lot of comments regarding shipping costs.

Was/were all the original case labs stuff manufacturered in the USA? Most stuff is made in China and ships from China, shipping is next to nothing if it's by the boatload.

mechtechA lot of comments regarding shipping costs.

Was/were all the original case labs stuff manufacturered in the USA? Most stuff is made in China and ships from China, shipping is next to nothing if it's by the boatload.

The cases were made in the USA, yes. I think the cables came from Silverstone as they seem to fit perfectly.

As for shipping costs, I live in Europe and bought 3 CaseLabs cases. It was painful but worth it. Now, it won't be that bad :D

mechtechA lot of comments regarding shipping costs.

Was/were all the original case labs stuff manufacturered in the USA? Most stuff is made in China and ships from China, shipping is next to nothing if it's by the boatload.

It wasn't back then. Since the pandemic, the cost of a 40-foot shipping container went from US$2k or less, to US$10-12k.

ThrashZoneHi,
You'd hope they would come out with something for normal people to expand the pool and maybe ditch aluminum as the material of choice
But no telling if they paid attention to how and why caselabs really died and break the cycle.

Can you expand on this? My understanding from GN's vid was that Caselab's went bellyup because of some b.s. lawsuit by ThermalTake iirc.

If they will use their renowned, clever design in a more affordable bracket then, I would say that competition is welcomed.

This is welcome news. I was debating selling an older Magnum case I had bought in stock form during one of their rare 50% sales with the intention of upgrading with add-ons over time (esp. the pedestal option that could go on top or bottom, to place larger rads into), only for them to go belly up. The temptation was about right, as even in parts they went for nearly double or triple what it cost before. Still, it was the first major modular case I had big ambitions for, so to be able to realize it is making me keep a hold of it.

What I do expect to see from them is probably massive front-distro plates and maybe even some frontal-radiator mounts (CaseLabs didn't really have much in the way of frontal rad mounts in their twilight). I would like though if they brought back some of the special order side panel customization the old CaseLabs could do; I'd love to be able to have a solid panel with case fan attachments just to directly blow air over the GPU and CPU, or even customize it to mount an internal MORA-3 (or a Radiator Wall) to the side. And while they're at it, a new motherboard tray, new base panels, and rear panels that permit radiators on the back; base panels having a vertical GPU mount, the motherboard tray allowing for the mobo to be pushed in a bit, and the rear panel having a 240 or 280 radiator and just having a pass-through grommet for wires to any PCI cards or motherboard I/O.

I do hope they resume selling more of their HDD/SSD + Fan cages though; I'd like to convert my old Magnum into a private server of sorts.

TerpMike28Can you expand on this? My understanding from GN's vid was that Caselab's went bellyup because of some b.s. lawsuit by ThermalTake iirc.

I'd say it was more due to low demand, rising costs, that lawsuit, etc.

freeagentJust wondering if they will be working on new and innovative designs or will they focus more on products from their past?

We want to release new products. I didn't buy the IP just to keep it in stasis and not evolving it.. But it is not our main priority [edit: it's not our main priority right now]. We will first make sure that all cases, parts and accessories are avaliable for purchase again. This will happen in Q1 2023 at the earliest. After that we will update our existing cases to "revision A" and after that we will look at designing new cases.

ThrashZoneHi,
You'd hope they would come out with something for normal people to expand the pool and maybe ditch aluminum as the material of choice
But no telling if they paid attention to how and why caselabs really died and break the cycle.

One wish that I had was to release something for the masses. I'm still want to keep the existing line-up with premium cases for enthusiasts but in order to survive we need to have sales and that will probably come from low- and mid-tier cases. So yes, if all goes according to plan, we will release something for "normal" people.

Regarding ditching aluminium, it won't happen for our premium cases.

CalenhadThis should be interesting. I might be in the market for a new case. If they offer products, in the future, with similar customisation options as before.

That's what we are aiming for.

bonehead123Well, all I can say is that after the past 5 years of the rapidly expanding assortments of same-ole-same-same-lame-lame-no-design-effort-whatsoever-boring-AF-look-a-like copy cat cases, perhaps CL will bring something truly new & innovative to the market... **fingers crossed**

I will completely understand if the new mgmt/owners wanna start out by updating some of their classic best sellers from back in the day, but I fear that unless they bring something new to the table, they will just die ANUTHA horrible death like they did last time, and I doubt anyone wants to see that happen all over again, I certainly don't :D..:fear:

As for TT copying their designs & then selling them as their own, well they gonna do what they gonna do, but perhaps this time they will use a little moar discretion & take whatever they copy & add some interesting new twists to it :)

psa: I have 2 of their cases, the TT900 & level 20, which I love dearly, and even though I don't know if or from whom they copied those designs, they are still really nice, well built, solid (and heavy AF !) cases nonetheless...

I don't know if we can bring something truly new and innovative to the market, but we will do our best.

Updates to existing models will be our first priority once we've launched our webshop and started selling cases again. I'm estimating that the updates will take the better part of 2023 if all goes well.

Cybrnook2002Excellent news to wake up to, very happy to have them back in whatever capacity. CaseLabs cases have always been in a league their own. Still rocking two Bullets here at the house and have been sitting on a Mercury S8 because I was too nervous to use it.

Thank you for your kind comment, it means a lot to me and my team!

ypsylonIt's good to know they are back, but sadly there is no way I'll ever buy another case from CL. Years and years ago paid 400$ for S&H across the World of TH10A. Now with shipping cost (even if they fell dramatically since 2021) I wouldn't be surprised if same bulk of case would be like 800-1000 USD, which is just a non-starter.

V3000+ here I come.

As a side note, why USA didn't embargoed ThermalFake yet? Selling 100% stolen ideas, made by the cheapest subsidiary available.

I agree with you that we have to do something about S&H (and costs overall) because they are too high and drive away potential customers. Our existing line-up won't change but we might introduce cheaper versions of existing cases or new cases that comes in a standard configuration etc.

AvlinWe had the same announce 1 year ago...

Not really, that was an announcement that I bought the IP. After that we've worked on bringing the brand back, and I've been severely ill for six months. This announcement is that we're finally, officially, back.

tabascosauzCL owners club has all the deets, m-oll been making some steady progress there in the past year. :)

www.overclock.net/threads/official-case-labs-owners-club.940461/page-1289

I think he said he's bringing back the legacy designs first. Including designs that existed but ultimately weren't released (X2 and X5), which I'm mainly interested in. He's got the files for them. With some updates here and there to keep with the times. New designs will come later.

I appreciate that he doesn't go hyping everyone up with anticipated release dates. When it's ready, it's ready.

Also @TheLostSwede , where'd you get the 2023 date from? Afaik m-oll has never committed to that even if he's made some rough estimates. Is that just off the top of your head?

Yupp, that's me. It was hard keeping quiet about what I was trying to do since I didn't want anyone to get the same idea and buy the IP from me. Now we're active on reddit, Facebook and on Discord, LTT, here and a couple of other forums too.

We're not committed to hard-launch our webshop for Q1 2023, it's just an estimate of when we can be fully operational again. It all depends on how our discussion with our contract-manufacturer goes and how smoothly we can soft-launch our webshop. I don't like to make promises for set dates because I do not want to let people down and be called a liar or hype stuff up. The few times we will convey a specific date is when it is truly set in stone that we can and will deliver on that date.

ThrashZoneHi,
What are the odds of new caselabs products being at costco ?

Slim to none.

mechtechA lot of comments regarding shipping costs.

Was/were all the original case labs stuff manufacturered in the USA? Most stuff is made in China and ships from China, shipping is next to nothing if it's by the boatload.

The original stuff was manufactured in California. I'm not keen on having manufacturing done in China for several different reasons. You're right that shipping is not much if it's by the boatload, but our cases isn't made by the boatload.

SN2716057The cases were made in the USA, yes. I think the cables came from Silverstone as they seem to fit perfectly.

As for shipping costs, I live in Europe and bought 3 CaseLabs cases. It was painful but worth it. Now, it won't be that bad :D

If you're ever in the market for a fourth case, the shipping will be cheaper since we are closer to each other and there is no tax! Just think of all the money you will save! ;)

TerpMike28Can you expand on this? My understanding from GN's vid was that Caselab's went bellyup because of some b.s. lawsuit by ThermalTake iirc.

The official reason given was that Trump's tariffs on aluminium etc from China drove the material cost up by 80% for the old CaseLabs. That, coupled with low sales, and a big client going bankrupt and not being able to pay made CFC (CaseLabs' parent company) go bankrupt too.

cowcatwithahatIf they will use their renowned, clever design in a more affordable bracket then, I would say that competition is welcomed.

We hope to release new versions of our existing models, alongside new models, that is aimed at a more affordable bracket. I would want at least a mid- and enthusiast-tier on all our cases, maybe a low- or high-tier too.

thegnomeI'd say it was more due to low demand, rising costs, that lawsuit, etc.

I don't know how much the lawsuit factored into the bankruptcy. The official reason was rising costs of material due to Trump's tariffs on China and a customer going bankrupt and not paying their bills.