YoRkFiElDLol even the 13900K is beating the shitty AMD 7800X3D :roll:

In production workloads undoubtedly, but for gaming the 7800X3D is pretty darn near impossible to beat at the moment. And it's definitely not shitty.

bugYou only need to limit PL1 and PL2 to keep them in their efficient zone. No need to mess with anything else.

AMD trolls realy dont care the facts..

TropickIn production workloads undoubtedly, but for gaming the 7800X3D is pretty darn near impossible to beat at the moment. And it's definitely not shitty.

Its still all about GPU not CPU when gaming.

4090 and i dont see any major differences using slower CPU when i play 4k.

DaworaAMD trolls realy dont care the facts..

I mean, Intel picked some messed up defaults, no argument there. But it's super-easy to fix.

damn it looks just like a CPU thats crazzzyyyyy

dj-electricHave you ever been fired or had to fire someone? seems to work pretty great.

Hi,
Actually you explained the part I already understood hehe

TropickIn production workloads undoubtedly, but for gaming the 7800X3D is pretty darn near impossible to beat at the moment. And it's definitely not shitty.

You should also mention how efficient the 7800X3D is too. Let's see the 13900K at the same power as the AMD. Hell we'll make it easier and compare the 13700K at the same power.

dj-electricHere's an honest advice from me, and uh... come visit this post a few weeks. Fire your sources.

I'll join @chispy in the skeptics club. I don't believe it to be real, not with all the suppressed information and that sketchy looking S in the picture, but I strongly believe that there is absolutely nothing Intel can improve on the 13900KS. The binning required would be so insanely stringent that unless Intel's yield is so extremely high that at this point they're basically wasting perfectly good dies to sell 14700K's and every 14900K's binning quality greatly exceeds that of 13900KS (wishful thinking at best), they're not doing it. Let me justify my reasoning:

Very late in 14 nm's lifecycle, Intel made an obscure model of CPU that not many know of: the i9-9990XE. It was an unusual processor, targeted at the financial market, it had extreme boost frequencies of 5 GHz on all 14 cores for the X299 platform with a significantly higher TDP. This was a regression in active core count vs. the regular i9-9980XE and this CPU was so rare, it was only made available through auctions. It came at over $1000 more per unit vs. already $2000+ 9980XE's, and sold through very few system integrators who took on a sunk cost because Intel did not warranty or guarantee their availability in any way.

www.anandtech.com/show/14980/the-intel-core-i9-9990xe-review

If real, I expect 14900KS to have the same level of extreme binning and rarity due to the sheer silicon quality required, possibly even with the same penalty of having a couple of P-cores fused off to achieve such extreme clock speeds. Every owner of 13900KS and 14900K knows that an all-core 6 GHz target is unrealistic at best, and unattainable at worst - the 13900KS's might do it if super juiced, not guaranteed, and at that point I hope you broke out the chiller. To exceed even this? It's the one time I'd like to be proven wrong.

atomekI'm looking forward for Factorio benchmarks ;)

Factorio devs killed any possibility of me buying their game when they increased the price by almost 400% in my country with the last stunt they've pulled. And since they're known to never put the game on sale, then they could benchmark a billion times higher and it'd be non-factor to me. And they did it just around the time I learned of the game's mechanics more in-depth and became interested in getting it

Dr. DroIf real, I expect 14900KS to have the same level of extreme binning and rarity due to the sheer silicon quality required, possibly even with the same penalty of having a couple of P-cores fused off to achieve such extreme clock speeds. Every owner of 13900KS and 14900K knows that an all-core 6 GHz target is unrealistic at best, and unattainable at worst - the 13900KS's might do it if super juiced, not guaranteed, and at that point I hope you broke out the chiller. To exceed even this? It's the one time I'd like to be proven wrong.

I made one ordinary 13900K to run at 6200 MHz one core, it could pass a whole 1 thread Cinebench run, and that was - 14 months ago?

I think that Intel may find CPUs with each P core capable of running at 6 GHz quite easilly.

That all P cores cannot run at 6 GHz simultaneously due to power or thermal limitations is another thing, but having this option for sure is an improvement over 14900K. I believe in reality you may be able to see max. 4-5 cores run at 6 GHz.

Dr. DroVery late in 14 nm's lifecycle, Intel made an obscure model of CPU that not many know of: the i9-9990XE. It was an unusual processor, targeted at the financial market, it had extreme boost frequencies of 5 GHz on all 14 cores for the X299 platform with a significantly higher TDP. This was a regression in active core count vs. the regular i9-9980XE and this CPU was so rare, it was only made available through auctions. It came at over $1000 more per unit vs. already $2000+ 9980XE's, and sold through very few system integrators who took on a sunk cost because Intel did not warranty or guarantee their availability in any way.

Wow, according to this video, this extreme CPU consumed 500W. I had no idea that Intel already sold such insane CPU for PC! In comparison with this, the 400 W or what exactly will 14900KS draw is just fine, perfectly fine and reasobable power draw... :D

Dr. DroI'll join @chispy in the skeptics club. I don't believe it to be real, not with all the suppressed information and that sketchy looking S in the picture, but I strongly believe that there is absolutely nothing Intel can improve on the 13900KS. The binning required would be so insanely stringent that unless Intel's yield is so extremely high that at this point they're basically wasting perfectly good dies to sell 14700K's and every 14900K's binning quality greatly exceeds that of 13900KS (wishful thinking at best), they're not doing it. Let me justify my reasoning:

Very late in 14 nm's lifecycle, Intel made an obscure model of CPU that not many know of: the i9-9990XE. It was an unusual processor, targeted at the financial market, it had extreme boost frequencies of 5 GHz on all 14 cores for the X299 platform with a significantly higher TDP. This was a regression in active core count vs. the regular i9-9980XE and this CPU was so rare, it was only made available through auctions. It came at over $1000 more per unit vs. already $2000+ 9980XE's, and sold through very few system integrators who took on a sunk cost because Intel did not warranty or guarantee their availability in any way.

www.anandtech.com/show/14980/the-intel-core-i9-9990xe-review

If real, I expect 14900KS to have the same level of extreme binning and rarity due to the sheer silicon quality required, possibly even with the same penalty of having a couple of P-cores fused off to achieve such extreme clock speeds. Every owner of 13900KS and 14900K knows that an all-core 6 GHz target is unrealistic at best, and unattainable at worst - the 13900KS's might do it if super juiced, not guaranteed, and at that point I hope you broke out the chiller. To exceed even this? It's the one time I'd like to be proven wrong.



Factorio devs killed any possibility of me buying their game when they increased the price by almost 400% in my country with the last stunt they've pulled. And since they're known to never put the game on sale, then they could benchmark a billion times higher and it'd be non-factor to me. And they did it just around the time I learned of the game's mechanics more in-depth and became interested in getting it

:)
I take my "predictions" very seriously.

BoggledBeagle.... reasobable ...

What is this? Is my brain dying? :eek:

dj-electric:)
I take my "predictions" very seriously.

Indeed, you were right on this one. But my concerns were pretty valid. The binning on this has to be off the scale great. I'm eagerly awaiting reviews, hopefully iso power vs. 13900KS.