btarunrAt this point it's not clear if the special edition package include a copy of the game

If it doesn't, then what's the point in launching a "special edition" card with game artwork in the 1st place ?

Just more gammin tois for da gammin bois anyways, so m.E.h..... :D

bonehead123If it doesn't, then what's the point in launching a "special edition" card with game artwork in the 1st place ?

Just more gammin tois for da gammin bois anyways, so m.E.h..... :D

Like launching a Platinum edition and no platinum in the box :D. For fans of the franchise the branding might be enough.

It's bizarre seeing such a large triple slot card which in actual fact it barely outperforms something like a 6600XT or a 5700XT.

Vya DomusIt's bizarre seeing such a large triple slot card which in actual fact barely outperforms something like a 6600XT or a 5700XT.

Alchemist is extremely inefficient.

Vya DomusIt's bizarre seeing such a large triple slot card which in actual fact it barely outperforms something like a 6600XT or a 5700XT.

Eh, that's outdated info. Bit more like a 3060 Ti/6700 XT by now for the A770, but the point still stands. The drivers have extracted more performance, but the cards have not gone down in power consumption.

Vya DomusIt's bizarre seeing such a large triple slot card which in actual fact it barely outperforms something like a 6600XT or a 5700XT.

It's performance is around an RTX 4060. The drivers aren't where they were at launch.

It certainly doesn't need 3 fans, but if you are selling a special edition, AIBs will throw everything on it.

The Photon shroud really looks clean for the A770. :rockout:

DavenAlchemist is extremely inefficient.

Let's ignore that most other cards are 2 slot.....

SSGBryanIt's performance is around an RTX 4060. The drivers aren't where they were at launch.

It certainly doesn't need 3 fans, but if you are selling a special edition, AIBs will throw everything on it.

*when it works right

Intel's drivers have gotten a lot better but they still are very dependent on title specific optimization, theyre a long way form AMD or nvidia.

TheinsanegamerNLet's ignore that most other cards are 2 slot.....


*when it works right

Intel's drivers have gotten a lot better but they still are very dependent on title specific optimization, theyre a long way form AMD or nvidia.

That's because they don't have 20+ years of optimization behind them.

My a770 is certainly better than the RTX 3060 it replaced.

TheinsanegamerNLet's ignore that most other cards are 2 slot.....


*when it works right

Intel's drivers have gotten a lot better but they still are very dependent on title specific optimization, theyre a long way form AMD or nvidia.

Yeah, It's very easy to look like you're making revolutionary improvements with drivers when the games don't even open or are playable to begin with.

SSGBryanThat's because they don't have 20+ years of optimization behind them.

My a770 is certainly better than the RTX 3060 it replaced.

I can attest mine has been working absolutely fine.

Also for what its worth, it plays elden ring great.

SSGBryanMy a770 is certainly better than the RTX 3060 it replaced.

Solaris17I can attest mine has been working absolutely fine.

Also for what its worth, it plays elden ring great.

That’s the thing, the A770 today is pretty much nothing like it was at launch. Yet in the TPU database it still lags heavily behind the 3060Ti or 4060. In the relative performance charts too. And W1zz did re-test it in November, judging by the Test System info. Not sure if it just some games tanking it or what. But the lack of consistency is still not great to see.

Edit: Actually, while it can hang with the 4060 and 7600 in a lot of titles, I don’t see a single one in the TPU test suite where it overtakes the 3060Ti, so, uh, I am unsure where it’s “certainly better”.

OnasiThat’s the thing, the A770 today is pretty much nothing like it was at launch

Oh I know. I have some of the oldest posts in that subforum. I got them for all kinds of testing. As for the performance graphs, I dont think they are dynamic. This has been discussed before I believe. Though im unsure what came of it.

shouldnot there be more rumblings about Battlemage about now

kondaminshouldnot there be more rumblings about Battlemage about now

There are, I think its the same deal with the sparkle luna series. They are just clearing them.

@Solaris17
I am looking at the A380 review (since it’s the newest with the A780 data in the charts) with the data from the latest bench retest and it’s curious. The A770 seems to weirdly struggle with no rhyme or reason in some games. It’s not even engine dependent. I really hope it doesn’t mean that Intel has to manually optimize the drivers for each and every release to extract performance because that would be awful. I honestly expected that with the move to DX12 this wouldn’t be necessary for them, but seems not. Sometimes on par with the 4060 and 7600. Sometimes slower than the 3060. It’s bizzare. Though, hey, Radeon cards also suffer from this somewhat to a much lesser degree. Seems only NV scales predictably at all times.

Onasi@Solaris17
I am looking at the A380 review (since it’s the newest with the A780 data in the charts) with the data from the latest bench retest and it’s curious. The A770 seems to weirdly struggle with no rhyme or reason in some games. It’s not even engine dependent. I really hope it doesn’t mean that Intel has to manually optimize the drivers for each and every release to extract performance because that would be awful. I honestly expected that with the move to DX12 this wouldn’t be necessary for them, but seems not. Sometimes on par with the 4060 and 7600. Sometimes slower than the 3060. It’s bizzare. Though, hey, Radeon cards also suffer from this somewhat to a much lesser degree. Seems only NV scales predictably at all times.

I think the biggest hang up is actually shader compilation, be that during game start or on engines/games where it is inline. Like starfield they do usually manually blob those, but only if absolutely necessary, otherwise they will tweak the driver. They have made mention they are making a ton of kernel level driver stuff to fix these performance ups and downs, and it wasn't until recently they seemed to finally catch up (now they release game ready drivers on time). Time will tell but apparently they have learned a lot. They did develop and open source presentmon so they could gather more data real time. I am sure it will help them tremendously internally (since ASIC sim metrics aren't always great) but I don't think we will see alchemist get too much more of a bump now that its in its twilight. Though i'm sure it did have something to do with at least this years drivers.

That said it does seem they have what they need to put there best foot forward with battlemage and celestial we will see of course. If II stretch a little I might guess they try to level out performance with the mentioned kernal tweaks instead of trying to squeeze every FPS out of alchemist at this point, but thats conjecture on my part. They already said most of there driver engineers are on BM and the asic designers are on celestial.

As for the eldin ring A7xx cards. Sick. Wish they werent 3 slot though. Its not like they need the cooling.

I like the color scheme, gold/bronze go well with black.

Looks Nice.