Or lower the price of their players just so they can make back 50% of the production cost. Blu ray owns 83% of the market right now, and that was found while no rebates were going and no 2 for 1.

Toshiba is making it far from over because they don't want to loose a ton of money. It's just hurting the market. I hate to the reaction from people once this war is over. :toast:

I'm looking forward to HD-DVD opening up the niche market for HD audio. Afew have alread been released but Feb. is supposed to have a bunch comming with DTS-Master Audio.

Why can't these big wigs play nice and make a universal format?

I am a big fan of HD-DVD and I will never buy Blu-Ray, because I feel that Sony is the most evil company on the face of the planet. But yeah, Blu-Ray won, the war is over, and the consumers are screwed.

:rockout:Pioneer 1080p upscaling DVD player:rockout:

Haha after posting that I found an old laser disk in my desk drawer.

RavenasOr lower the price of their players just so they can make back 50% of the production cost. Blu ray owns 83% of the market right now, and that was found while no rebates were going and no 2 for 1.

Toshiba is making it far from over because they don't want to loose a ton of money. It's just hurting the market. I hate to the reaction from people once this war is over. :toast:

You make it sound like the consumer actually chose BR over HD-DVD. Have you not been paying attention or are you just trying to make yourself feel better about your $500 BR player that can also play crappy games? If you had been paying attention, you would know that the consumer is not the reason BR has 83% production but rather because Sony is paying off the Movie Producers to go exclusive BR.

yeah that is great for consumers because if and when the war ever ends, Sony wouldn't be interested in recouping the 1 Billion or so they have paid to the producers by jacking the prices on players and licensing fees would they?:banghead:

Half of that billion went to Warner alone!!!!

Blu-ray won, thats all that matters. I own both players and I believe blu-ray to be superior. I'm upset I bought a dead technology (hd-dvd)

mrw1986Blu-ray won, thats all that matters. I own both players and I believe blu-ray to be superior. I'm upset I bought a dead technology (hd-dvd)

i have hddvd and the planet earth set..that alone was worth the 150 total cost (hda2 at devil mart for 99)...i have yet to send in for my freebies..i probably should so i can catalog another dead tech ive bought ..like my beta vcr. im not a bluray fan....and ps3 can suck an egg.. but if push comes to shove...i will buy the old 60 gig ps3 for its emotion engine and blu ray...bleck

I bought neither. But granted I haven't bought any of this HD stuff because I never watch tv and rarely watch movies.

However when I get an apartment after I graduate I plan on getting a modest tv and a DVD upscaler, as that is the best deal for me for how I use it.

Not counting PS3s, I only know one person who's bought into the hi-def dvd stuff.

I'm waiting on the final fall-out before I purchase any hardware for my rig.

TBH, though, I'm still routing for HD. I can't stand Sony, nor their vast market - I perosnlally think they have themselves involved in more market than they really need to be. Sony hardware (for anything, whether computer, car audio, home audio, etc) is waaayyy over priced when there is always something of the same value, built better, and costs less on the market.

BR FTL!!

spacejunkyYou make it sound like the consumer actually chose BR over HD-DVD. Have you not been paying attention or are you just trying to make yourself feel better about your $500 BR player that can also play crappy games? If you had been paying attention, you would know that the consumer is not the reason BR has 83% production but rather because Sony is paying off the Movie Producers to go exclusive BR.

yeah that is great for consumers because if and when the war ever ends, Sony wouldn't be interested in recouping the 1 Billion or so they have paid to the producers by jacking the prices on players and licensing fees would they?:banghead:

So much false information here I can't even begin to answer. :laugh:

Remember folks, Sony has never won a format war.

Remember Betamax, minidiscs, UMD's, memory sticks, etc. Really, sony has only been successful at formats that are integral parts of their hardware. Memory sticks would be close to dead if it weren't for the psp. While UMD's are required to play psp games, UMD movies are very rare.

According to economics, HD-DVD should win because it is offering similar performance for around half the price of Blu-Ray. The one thing that's hurting HD-DVD though is that the Xbox 360 doesn't use a HD-DVD drive...

If it had, the war would be over already.

just because it won the war doesnt mean we have to pay the price. Look how long it took for DVD to replace VCR.

as much as i think the wars almsot over, i prefer HD-DVD.

the DVD upscaling is a great feature, and bluray costs too much. Not because of the tech, because of all the licensing crap that gets paid to sony.

Sony do not care about the end user, they care about sucking other big names into supporting their product, so that sony make money in the long run. I just dont feel proprietary tech is the way to go for this - no one compay owned/pushed everyone into DVD.

Musselsas much as i think the wars almsot over, i prefer HD-DVD.

the DVD upscaling is a great feature, and bluray costs too much. Not because of the tech, because of all the licensing crap that gets paid to sony.

Sony do not care about the end user, they care about sucking other big names into supporting their product, so that sony make money in the long run. I just dont feel proprietary tech is the way to go for this - no one compay owned/pushed everyone into DVD.

BluRay players upscale DVDs as well.

Wile EBluRay players upscale DVDs as well.

shh i'm telling myself blu ray sucks because sony is evil.

Blu-Ray all the way... and about the price its a metter of time till the price drop... Blu-Ray and PS3 all the way, i prefere sony because they bring something new they bring inovation...

im not a HD-DVD hater i just prefer Blu-ray...

EditoBlu-Ray all the way... and about the price its a metter of time till the price drop... Blu-Ray and PS3 all the way, i prefere sony because they bring something new they bring inovation...

im not a HD-DVD hater i just prefer Blu-ray...

innovation such as rootkit viruses on music CD's, mmm yes.

Musselsinnovation such as rootkit viruses on music CD's, mmm yes.

Its a issue i can accept but we must accept SONY bring good inovations, in tvs, consoles etc... if u can't accept that ill assume that ur a SONY HATER or blu-ray HATER...

Definitly i love all there consoles and always had a walkman growing up and my 60 stacker cd player all brilliant.

I wait till One is dead!
Then I purchase the surviver!
In the mean time I watch DVD and DivX!
The world is unfair and hard!
Cant change it! So what...!
:pimp:

EditoIts a issue i can accept but we must accept SONY bring good inovations, in tvs, consoles etc... if u can't accept that ill assume that ur a SONY HATER or blu-ray HATER...

no need to assume, i'm a sony hater. Not so much in that i needlessly bash their products, just that i will never buy anything sony.

in addition to what moto said.

In the meantime i watch DVD, .avi, and H264 MKV files. format free high definition is WINNAR.

Can they just please settle this ? because i'm still not sure what to buy ether Blue-Ray or HD because one is going to loose this war, and knowing my luck it will be the one that i buy.

Just go with Blue ray quarenteed theyll win this war.