Sunday, October 26th 2008
NVIDIA Responds to Radeon HD 4830 Launch, Claims GeForce 9800 GT is Better
NVIDIA has issued a slide-show, a consolidated presentation taking into account, the findings of some review sources. In short, NVIDIA claims that the GeForce 9800 GT is not only faster than Radeon HD 4830, but also that its value-added features such as the CUDA HPC foundation and PhysX acceleration amount to a superior product all in all. Donanim Haber got their hands on this slide-show before anyone could, so here goes: GeForce 9800 GT vs. Radeon HD 4830 - a presentation by NVIDIA.
The "AMD Radeon HD 4830" they highlighted in those TechPowerUp charts is the sample that was found to have 560 stream processors instead of the 640 SPs according to AMD's specifications. Use the green bar (PowerColor HD 4830) for reference if need be.
Source:
Donanim Haber
104 Comments on NVIDIA Responds to Radeon HD 4830 Launch, Claims GeForce 9800 GT is Better
you cringe all you want about their (awful) business practices of late, but their point is made.
however i agree that given the figures and reviews, a 9800GT is slightly faster.
just like nvidia to point it out in a way thats "anything you can do i can do better, oh look ive already done it"
now its "oh crap, 4870's ..................... they're everywhere, game over man, game over" :)
they need to get the GTX350 on the way so bad, and lower prices on GTX2XX
Personally, i'd complain as only you have the power to do so.
1. They used the results for the lower SP card. False advertising.
2. they compare to the 8800GT, not the 9800GT! gah!
To be honest... this is very disturbing to me. Its something you *could* take legal action over, due to the inherent lies and trickery.
so in certain arguments, the 4870X2 shouldnt even be compared against a GTX280, the only reason they are is because of pricing, and shoehorning two gpu's onto one, big, hot, card.
not that a GTX280 isnt all of those....
in short im just bitching, im not a fan of either top dog at the moment.you know what a 9800GT IS right?
You guys need to realize that this is marketing/business. Yeah, there might be BS and whatever, but seriously, businesses do this. Are they going to be honest and say "Oh, our video card only gets x FPS more, but the competition would be the better buy"
not to mention neither company will ever get perfect scaling down, the only hope they have is Lucid's load balancer.
like now i have a 4870, even though i sort of consider myself a nvidia fanboy, but the 4870 is an awesome card (although oddly enough, given the chance i wouldnt buy one again) i did have 2x4870 in CF but sold the second due to issues, and not seeing the gains i wanted.
max FPS was almost double in every game, but almost every game had unchanged min fps, and seriously what good is a 200-400 fps spike when it still dips below 60?
meh, just me bitching again :)
but like i said, even nvidia multi gpu setups have presented the same quirks.
forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=74477
PLEASE NOTE: There is an issue with the HD 4830 sample from AMD. It has only 560 shaders instead of the intended 640. That's why the scores of the AMD card are so different. The card tested in this review has the correct shader count of 640 and is representative of the HD 4830 performance. Read more about this here.
According to Hexus.net the 4830 is indeed faster than the 9800 GT - bearing in mind the 4830 is a new card and drivers have not yet matured yet the 4830 beats the 9800 GT!
I've included in the attachments a few screenshots of Hexus.net's benchmarks of the 4830 vs the 9800 GT. I would appreciate it everyone takes the time to look at all the images and respond back accordingly :)
Also a quote from Hexus.net
NVIDIA's GeForce 9800 GT still remains a viable competitor due to its keen pricing and extended software infrastructure that includes CUDA and PhysX, but the better pure gaming card is, on balance, the Radeon HD 4830.
Edit:
Incase the images are too small, the red bar is the 4830 and the purple bar is the 9800 GT