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Processor | Ryzen 7 5700X |
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Memory | 48 GB |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4080 |
Storage | 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe |
Display(s) | 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024 |
Software | Windows 10 64-bit |
Isn't watercooling awesome?
Processor | Ryzen 7 5700X |
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Memory | 48 GB |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4080 |
Storage | 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe |
Display(s) | 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024 |
Software | Windows 10 64-bit |
System Name | HP Omen 17 |
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Processor | i7 7700HQ |
Memory | 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | GTX 1060 |
Storage | Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB |
Display(s) | 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz |
Audio Device(s) | Bang & Olufsen |
Power Supply | 230W |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD+ |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
Isn't watercooling awesome?
System Name | m1dg3t | DeathBox | HairPi 3 |
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Processor | 3570k @ 4.0 1.15v BIOS | q9550 @ 3.77 1.325v BIOS |
Motherboard | Asrock z77e iTX | p5q Dlx 2301 BIOS |
Cooling | Custom Water | D-14 & HR-03gt | Passive HSF |
Memory | Samsung MV-3V4G3D 4g x 2 @ 1866 1.35v | OcZ RpR 2g x 4 @ 1067 2.2v |
Video Card(s) | MSi 7950 tf3 @1000 / 1350 | Asus 5870 V2 @ 900 / 1275 |
Storage | Adata sx900 256Gb / WD 2500 HHTZ | WD 1001 FALS x 2 |
Display(s) | BenQ gw2750hm | 46" Sharp Quatron |
Case | BitFenix Prodigy - m0dd3d | Antec Fusion Remote MAX |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard Toslink > Yamaha HTR 6290 | Xonar HDAV1.3 > Yamaha DSP z7 |
Power Supply | Ocz mXp700w | Ocz zx850w | Cannakit 5v 2.5a |
Mouse | Logitech G700s | Logitech G9x - Cable Repaired |
Keyboard | TT Meka G1 - Black w Cherry Blacks| Logitech G11 |
Software | Win7 Home | Xp sp3 & Vista ultimate | Raspbian |
Benchmark Scores | Epeen!! Who needs epeen?? |
System Name | Zotan |
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Processor | i9-10850K |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z490 Gaming X AX |
Cooling | H100 |
Memory | 32GB Viper 3200 |
Video Card(s) | Zotac RTX3080 |
Case | Airflow 275R |
Power Supply | RMX850 |
Benchmark Scores | d1nky@hwbot.org |
System Name | Main Workstation |
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Processor | Ryzen 1700 @ 3800 GHz |
Motherboard | ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S |
Memory | 2 x 8 GB G.Skill Flare X 3200 MHz |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1800 Classified |
Storage | Crucial MX200 500 GB |
Case | BC1 Open Benchtable Silver |
Audio Device(s) | Sennheiser HD 650 /w Apogee Groove and Moon Audio Silver Dragon cable |
Power Supply | Seasonic Platinum 860W |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro |
Keyboard | Leopold FC980C White /w Hasu controller |
Software | Windows 10 64 bit |
System Name | My PC |
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Processor | i7 4790k @4.4ghz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte z97m-d3h |
Cooling | Corsair H105 |
Memory | 4x4GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133-9-11-11-31-1T |
Video Card(s) | GTX970 Stric oc |
Storage | Samsung 840Pro 512GB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG SWIFT |
Case | Lian Li 359 |
Audio Device(s) | Denon DA-300USB / Denon AH-D5000 |
Power Supply | Corsair AX860 |
Mouse | Roccat Kone Pure Optical |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 |
Software | Win10 64-bit home |
System Name | Senile |
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Processor | I7-4790K@4.8 GHz 24/7 |
Motherboard | MSI Z97-G45 Gaming |
Cooling | Be Quiet Pure Rock Air |
Memory | 16GB 4x4 G.Skill CAS9 2133 Sniper |
Video Card(s) | GIGABYTE Vega 64 |
Storage | Samsung EVO 500GB / 8 Different WDs / QNAP TS-253 8GB NAS with 2x10Tb WD Blue |
Display(s) | 34" LG 34CB88-P 21:9 Curved UltraWide QHD (3440*1440) *FREE_SYNC* |
Case | Rosewill |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard + HD HDMI |
Power Supply | Corsair HX750 |
Mouse | Logitech G5 |
Keyboard | Corsair Strafe RGB & G610 Orion Red |
Software | Win 10 |
All of them except no.1
System Name | Vulcan |
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Processor | i6 6600K |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Z170X UD3 |
Cooling | Thermaltake Frio Silent 14 |
Memory | 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) |
Video Card(s) | ASUS Strix GTX 970 |
Storage | Mushkin Enhanced Reactor 1TB SSD |
Display(s) | QNIX 27 Inch 1440p |
Case | Fractal Design Define S |
Audio Device(s) | On Board |
Power Supply | Cooler Master V750 |
Software | Win 10 64-bit |
Processor | Intel i9 9900K @5GHz w/ Corsair H150i Pro CPU AiO w/Corsair HD120 RBG fan |
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Motherboard | Asus Z390 Maximus XI Code |
Cooling | 6x120mm Corsair HD120 RBG fans |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance RBG 2x8GB 3600MHz |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3080Ti STRIX OC |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB , 970 EVO 1TB, Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD, 10TB Synology DS1621+ RAID5 |
Display(s) | Corsair Xeneon 32" 32UHD144 4K |
Case | Corsair 570x RBG Tempered Glass |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard / Corsair Virtuoso XT Wireless RGB |
Power Supply | Corsair HX850w Platinum Series |
Mouse | Logitech G604s |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Rapidfire |
Software | Windows 11 x64 Professional |
Benchmark Scores | Firestrike - 23520 Heaven - 3670 |
System Name | If you name your systems, get a boy/girlfriend... |
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Processor | i7 4770k |
Motherboard | Asus Maximus VI Formula |
Cooling | Custom waterloop around Black Ice GTX 360 |
Memory | 16GB DDR3 |
Video Card(s) | GTX 1080 FE |
Storage | Samsung 850 Pro 1TB |
Case | HAF 932 |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | Corsair HX750 |
Software | Windows 10 x64 |
System Name | m1dg3t | DeathBox | HairPi 3 |
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Processor | 3570k @ 4.0 1.15v BIOS | q9550 @ 3.77 1.325v BIOS |
Motherboard | Asrock z77e iTX | p5q Dlx 2301 BIOS |
Cooling | Custom Water | D-14 & HR-03gt | Passive HSF |
Memory | Samsung MV-3V4G3D 4g x 2 @ 1866 1.35v | OcZ RpR 2g x 4 @ 1067 2.2v |
Video Card(s) | MSi 7950 tf3 @1000 / 1350 | Asus 5870 V2 @ 900 / 1275 |
Storage | Adata sx900 256Gb / WD 2500 HHTZ | WD 1001 FALS x 2 |
Display(s) | BenQ gw2750hm | 46" Sharp Quatron |
Case | BitFenix Prodigy - m0dd3d | Antec Fusion Remote MAX |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard Toslink > Yamaha HTR 6290 | Xonar HDAV1.3 > Yamaha DSP z7 |
Power Supply | Ocz mXp700w | Ocz zx850w | Cannakit 5v 2.5a |
Mouse | Logitech G700s | Logitech G9x - Cable Repaired |
Keyboard | TT Meka G1 - Black w Cherry Blacks| Logitech G11 |
Software | Win7 Home | Xp sp3 & Vista ultimate | Raspbian |
Benchmark Scores | Epeen!! Who needs epeen?? |
I think why you got watercooling is going to depend on what platform you run. SKT2011 and AMD AM3+, watercooling is going to let you clock a bit higher. SKT 155, it won't, so the best you get is controlled temps, more maybe less noise.
So are you saying there is no difference in clock potential between a load temp of 85c - 95c and a load temp of 55c - 60c/65c? OR better. Interesting.
System Name | Ryzen Reflection |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5900x |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570S Aorus Master |
Cooling | 2x EK PE360 | TechN AM4 AMD Block Black | EK Quantum Vector Trinity GPU Nickel + Plexi |
Memory | Teamgroup T-Force Xtreem 2x16GB B-Die 3600 @ 14-14-14-28-42-288-2T 1.45v |
Video Card(s) | Zotac AMP HoloBlack RTX 3080Ti 12G | 950mV 1950Mhz |
Storage | WD SN850 500GB (OS) | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Games_1) | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB (Games_2) |
Display(s) | Asus XG27AQM 240Hz G-Sync Fast-IPS | Gigabyte M27Q-P 165Hz 1440P IPS | Asus 24" IPS (portrait mode) |
Case | Lian Li PC-011D XL | Custom cables by Cablemodz |
Audio Device(s) | FiiO K7 | Sennheiser HD650 + Beyerdynamic FOX Mic |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum 850 |
Mouse | Razer Viper v2 Pro |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman Tournament Edition |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit |
System Name | m1dg3t | DeathBox | HairPi 3 |
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Processor | 3570k @ 4.0 1.15v BIOS | q9550 @ 3.77 1.325v BIOS |
Motherboard | Asrock z77e iTX | p5q Dlx 2301 BIOS |
Cooling | Custom Water | D-14 & HR-03gt | Passive HSF |
Memory | Samsung MV-3V4G3D 4g x 2 @ 1866 1.35v | OcZ RpR 2g x 4 @ 1067 2.2v |
Video Card(s) | MSi 7950 tf3 @1000 / 1350 | Asus 5870 V2 @ 900 / 1275 |
Storage | Adata sx900 256Gb / WD 2500 HHTZ | WD 1001 FALS x 2 |
Display(s) | BenQ gw2750hm | 46" Sharp Quatron |
Case | BitFenix Prodigy - m0dd3d | Antec Fusion Remote MAX |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard Toslink > Yamaha HTR 6290 | Xonar HDAV1.3 > Yamaha DSP z7 |
Power Supply | Ocz mXp700w | Ocz zx850w | Cannakit 5v 2.5a |
Mouse | Logitech G700s | Logitech G9x - Cable Repaired |
Keyboard | TT Meka G1 - Black w Cherry Blacks| Logitech G11 |
Software | Win7 Home | Xp sp3 & Vista ultimate | Raspbian |
Benchmark Scores | Epeen!! Who needs epeen?? |
Side note: Have you popped the top on your chip yet? Searching for those last few mHz?
Processor | 8700k Intel |
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Motherboard | z370 MSI Godlike Gaming |
Cooling | Triple Aquacomputer AMS Copper 840 with D5 |
Memory | TridentZ RGB G.Skill C16 3600MHz |
Video Card(s) | GTX 1080 Ti |
Storage | Crucial MX SSDs |
Display(s) | Dell U3011 2560x1600 + Dell 2408WFP 1200x1920 (Portrait) |
Case | Core P5 Thermaltake |
Audio Device(s) | Essence STX |
Power Supply | AX 1500i |
Mouse | Logitech |
Keyboard | Corsair |
Software | Win10 |
System Name | m1dg3t | DeathBox | HairPi 3 |
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Processor | 3570k @ 4.0 1.15v BIOS | q9550 @ 3.77 1.325v BIOS |
Motherboard | Asrock z77e iTX | p5q Dlx 2301 BIOS |
Cooling | Custom Water | D-14 & HR-03gt | Passive HSF |
Memory | Samsung MV-3V4G3D 4g x 2 @ 1866 1.35v | OcZ RpR 2g x 4 @ 1067 2.2v |
Video Card(s) | MSi 7950 tf3 @1000 / 1350 | Asus 5870 V2 @ 900 / 1275 |
Storage | Adata sx900 256Gb / WD 2500 HHTZ | WD 1001 FALS x 2 |
Display(s) | BenQ gw2750hm | 46" Sharp Quatron |
Case | BitFenix Prodigy - m0dd3d | Antec Fusion Remote MAX |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard Toslink > Yamaha HTR 6290 | Xonar HDAV1.3 > Yamaha DSP z7 |
Power Supply | Ocz mXp700w | Ocz zx850w | Cannakit 5v 2.5a |
Mouse | Logitech G700s | Logitech G9x - Cable Repaired |
Keyboard | TT Meka G1 - Black w Cherry Blacks| Logitech G11 |
Software | Win7 Home | Xp sp3 & Vista ultimate | Raspbian |
Benchmark Scores | Epeen!! Who needs epeen?? |
Yep, did that a long time ago on my 3570k. dropping 25c off of load increased clock potential 0%.
My 3570k needs 1.4V for 4.6 GHz, however. I use a D5 vario and a BIX360 with push/pull 137 CFM 35mm Panaflows.
Water does lower temps so you can push a bit more voltage, but most chips are running near 1.35V or more already with just high-end air. I do not subscribe to the whole "IVB has TIM issues" idea, since most users can push excessive voltages just on air.
AMIRITE? In short, there really is no need to WC, or delid
System Name | m1dg3t | DeathBox | HairPi 3 |
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Processor | 3570k @ 4.0 1.15v BIOS | q9550 @ 3.77 1.325v BIOS |
Motherboard | Asrock z77e iTX | p5q Dlx 2301 BIOS |
Cooling | Custom Water | D-14 & HR-03gt | Passive HSF |
Memory | Samsung MV-3V4G3D 4g x 2 @ 1866 1.35v | OcZ RpR 2g x 4 @ 1067 2.2v |
Video Card(s) | MSi 7950 tf3 @1000 / 1350 | Asus 5870 V2 @ 900 / 1275 |
Storage | Adata sx900 256Gb / WD 2500 HHTZ | WD 1001 FALS x 2 |
Display(s) | BenQ gw2750hm | 46" Sharp Quatron |
Case | BitFenix Prodigy - m0dd3d | Antec Fusion Remote MAX |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard Toslink > Yamaha HTR 6290 | Xonar HDAV1.3 > Yamaha DSP z7 |
Power Supply | Ocz mXp700w | Ocz zx850w | Cannakit 5v 2.5a |
Mouse | Logitech G700s | Logitech G9x - Cable Repaired |
Keyboard | TT Meka G1 - Black w Cherry Blacks| Logitech G11 |
Software | Win7 Home | Xp sp3 & Vista ultimate | Raspbian |
Benchmark Scores | Epeen!! Who needs epeen?? |
There is need for water-cooling if you run SKT 2011, or AMD chips. Just not for IVB or SNB. Which is what I posted above.
And, No, I do not feel there is any reason to de-lid. Not when you can clock the crap out of a chip with it's lid on, and get a new one for $25 when it pops.
And yes, I was referring to my Z77 Express test chip in recent posts. I'll be removing the top pretty soon with that one as I've finished all my Z77 reviews.
Maybe that experience will change my opinion. Time will tell. But when that chip does 5.0 GHz with 1.35V...on air...why do I need watercooling? For another 200 MHz?
getting another 200 MHz isn't enough to me. It won't affect my needed performance in any way.
I'm only delidding because many users have asked me to. I don't really care about the chip itself, it's served it's purpose for me, letting me do about 30 board reviews.
And no "thermodynamics laws" have been broken, since silicon is a semi-conductor, and doped silicon has varied points where temperatures matter. Water-cooling temps aren't in that range. Very basic stuff.
The real point where temps matters seems, with my chips, to be around -10C, then they start to scale better. Water itself won't go sub-zero.
You are the fist person i seen to have this opinion Dave, in regards to WC/performance. Interesting...
System Name | m1dg3t | DeathBox | HairPi 3 |
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Processor | 3570k @ 4.0 1.15v BIOS | q9550 @ 3.77 1.325v BIOS |
Motherboard | Asrock z77e iTX | p5q Dlx 2301 BIOS |
Cooling | Custom Water | D-14 & HR-03gt | Passive HSF |
Memory | Samsung MV-3V4G3D 4g x 2 @ 1866 1.35v | OcZ RpR 2g x 4 @ 1067 2.2v |
Video Card(s) | MSi 7950 tf3 @1000 / 1350 | Asus 5870 V2 @ 900 / 1275 |
Storage | Adata sx900 256Gb / WD 2500 HHTZ | WD 1001 FALS x 2 |
Display(s) | BenQ gw2750hm | 46" Sharp Quatron |
Case | BitFenix Prodigy - m0dd3d | Antec Fusion Remote MAX |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard Toslink > Yamaha HTR 6290 | Xonar HDAV1.3 > Yamaha DSP z7 |
Power Supply | Ocz mXp700w | Ocz zx850w | Cannakit 5v 2.5a |
Mouse | Logitech G700s | Logitech G9x - Cable Repaired |
Keyboard | TT Meka G1 - Black w Cherry Blacks| Logitech G11 |
Software | Win7 Home | Xp sp3 & Vista ultimate | Raspbian |
Benchmark Scores | Epeen!! Who needs epeen?? |
Chilled water isn't watercooling as prescribed in the OP, methinks.