What to do after throttled cpu replacement

[Avengerpilot]

Hi guys, so taking a look at my system specs, my cpu is too powerful for my mobo it takes 220 watts and the mobo can only take a cpu a Max of 175. Anyway, I'm switching out my fx-9590 with an 8370 which is the highest power cpu my mobo can hanfle. My main question is, because my system has had to throttle everything especially the gpu performance, should I clear the cmos or reset something or will the system automatically detect the new good cpu and run everything as it really should, no throttling or anything?

 

[TechHands]

I'm wanting to know the same sense I've gone from a 4350 to a 6350 and now a 8350 but all I did was just go to bios and load optimized defaults when I swapped them.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Install cpu, go into bios and check all settings especially for the memory. If all looks well, let it eat.

 

[n0tiert]

i would suggest a HW Reset atleast due the CPU Microcode patch (Agesa) if they ain´t the same due Model / Type

http://hwbot.org/newsflash/2124_amd_users_are_you_running_the_latest_agesa_microcode

may there is an BIOS upgrade also necessary

 

[Avengerpilot]

i would suggest a HW Reset atleast due the CPU Microcode patch (Agesa) if they ain´t the same due Model / Type

http://hwbot.org/newsflash/2124_amd_users_are_you_running_the_latest_agesa_microcode

may there is an BIOS upgrade also necessary

The entire mobo bios or a cpu bios? I believe it is up to date due to the 9590 being the highest level current amd cpu

i would suggest a HW Reset atleast due the CPU Microcode patch (Agesa) if they ain´t the same due Model / Type

http://hwbot.org/newsflash/2124_amd_users_are_you_running_the_latest_agesa_microcode

may there is an BIOS upgrade also necessary

Alright I saw the thing about the micro code and that but how would I reset it?

I'm wanting to know the same sense I've gone from a 4350 to a 6350 and now a 8350 but all I did was just go to bios and load optimized defaults when I swapped them.

Which mobo do you and where did you go for optimized defaikts, also if I have an asrock 990fx extreme3 where would I go to see any defaultd? The bios page? The extreme tuner utility?

 

[cdawall]

You could just down clock the CPU you have? That's like a thing the unlocked multiplier and voltage can not only add, but subtract.

 

[hat]

Well, clearing CMOS is easy. Just unplug the system from the wall, hold the chassis power button in for a few seconds to drain any remaining power, and pull the battery, or move the CMOS jumper from pins 1-2 to 2-3 for a few seconds (and then back to 1-2).

Though, as cdawall says, you don't really need a new CPU. They're all the same anyway, just with different settings. You can artificially gimp your CPU in CMOS setup and turn it into an 8370, more or less.

 

[Avengerpilot]

Well, clearing CMOS is easy. Just unplug the system from the wall, hold the chassis power button in for a few seconds to drain any remaining power, and pull the battery, or move the CMOS jumper from pins 1-2 to 2-3 for a few seconds (and then back to 1-2).

Though, as cdawall says, you don't really need a new CPU. They're all the same anyway, just with different settings. You can artificially gimp your CPU in CMOS setup and turn it into an 8370, more or less.

That's not an option it can't be gimped without auto throttling besides I already got the cpu, so I'm replacing it and no or is going to change my mind

 

[Mussels]

That's not an option it can't be gimped without auto throttling besides I already got the cpu, so I'm replacing it and no or is going to change my mind

it actually is a completely viable option. If you lower the multi and voltage the heat and wattage will be lower, so there would be no throttling.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

You could just down clock the CPU you have? That's like a thing the unlocked multiplier and voltage can not only add, but subtract.

Though, as cdawall says, you don't really need a new CPU. They're all the same anyway, just with different settings. You can artificially gimp your CPU in CMOS setup and turn it into an 8370, more or less.

it actually is a completely viable option. If you lower the multi and voltage the heat and wattage will be lower, so there would be no throttling.

They are telling you the truth @Avengerpilot

 

[cdawall]

That's not an option it can't be gimped without auto throttling besides I already got the cpu, so I'm replacing it and no or is going to change my mind

It can you are wrong, but seeing how you have already wasted your money on a new CPU carry on. One question though why did you make a thread if you already made the decision/purchase?

 

[newtekie1]

Just put the new CPU in and go. The BIOS will detect the new CPU, and update anything necessary. No need to reset your whole BIOS just because you swapped out a CPU for the exact same CPU with a lower clock speed.

The only thing I'd do is hop in the BIOS and make sure it set the RAM to the right speed. Oh, and lower the vcore one notch, because on that motherboard the 8370 is still going to throttle.

Did you happen to read on the CPU support sheet for your motherboard where it says any 125w CPU requires a top down blower style heatsink for the CPU? This is to cool the VRM around the CPU. You seem to have a water cooler, so any 125w CPU is going to throttle in that motherboard, because there is no airflow to cool the VRM. And even with good airflow, it will still probably throttle with an 8370...

The funny thing is, you spent something like $150 on an 8370 when you could have just spent $130 on a 990FX Extreme6 that would have handled the 9590 without any problems.

 

[cdawall]

Yep because that motherboard is a hunk of shit.

 

[Avengerpilot]

Just put the new CPU in and go. The BIOS will detect the new CPU, and update anything necessary. No need to reset your whole BIOS just because you swapped out a CPU for the exact same CPU with a lower clock speed.

The only thing I'd do is hop in the BIOS and make sure it set the RAM to the right speed. Oh, and lower the vcore one notch, because on that motherboard the 8370 is still going to throttle...

Why would it still throttle

 

[Avengerpilot]

Just put the new CPU in and go. The BIOS will detect the new CPU, and update anything necessary. No need to reset your whole BIOS just because you swapped out a CPU for the exact same CPU with a lower clock speed.

The only thing I'd do is hop in the BIOS and make sure it set the RAM to the right speed. Oh, and lower the vcore one notch, because on that motherboard the 8370 is still going to throttle.

Did you happen to read on the CPU support sheet for your motherboard where it says any 125w CPU requires a top down blower style heatsink for the CPU? This is to cool the VRM around the CPU. You seem to have a water cooler, so any 125w CPU is going to throttle in that motherboard, because there is no airflow to cool the VRM. And even with good airflow, it will still probably throttle with an 8370...

Why would it throttle it's on the list of accepted cpu and the Max waTts are 175 also the 8350 takes up just asany watts, would the 8370E 95 watt version throttle it any?

 

[mstenholm]

And this was #3 new post about the same CPU/Mobo problem. All the above good suggestions have allready been given. OP please stick to one post.

 

[newtekie1]

Why would it still throttle

Why would it throttle it's on the list of accepted cpu and the Max waTts are 175 also the 8350 takes up just asany watts, would the 8370E 95 watt version throttle it any?

Because the board is not able to handle 125w 8-Core CPUs. Because it is a 4-Phase power design that overheats when you put any 125w CPUs in it. Yes, the 8370E would throttle too, but the throttling is how the 8370E manages to stay under 95w. It will only go up to 3.3GHz under load, and might not even get there. The 8370E basically pre-throttles, it doesn't even get to the clock speeds the normal 8370 does, that is why it is only 95w.

That motherboard shouldn't be rated for anything over 6-Cores and 95w. It is going to throttle with anything more.

 

[Avengerpilot]

Because the board is not able to handle 125w 8-Core CPUs. Because it is a 4-Phase power design that overheats when you put any 125w CPUs in it. Yes, the 8370E would throttle too, but the throttling is how the 8370E manages to stay under 95w. It will only go up to 3.3GHz under load, and might not even get there. The 8370E basically pre-throttles, it doesn't even get to the clock speeds the normal 8370 does, that is why it is only 95w.

That motherboard shouldn't be rated for anything over 6-Cores and 95w. It is going to throttle with anything more.

Alright so say I got the asus crosshair v formula, would it still throttle because I have a water cooler? Also the cpu comes with a top down fan if I used that would it throttle on my current board?

 

[cdawall]

So to fix this simply turn off boost with the 9590 and set the clockspeed to 3.5ghz, 1.25-1.275v. It may still drop clocks on you, but it will not be anywhere near as often.

 

[cdawall]

Alright so say I got the asus crosshair v formula, would it still throttle because I have a water cooler? Also the cpu comes with a top down fan if I used that would it throttle on my current board?

It shouldn't throttle with a watercooled 9590. That board handles those clocks fine.

and no cooling the underbuilt asrock will not fix anything.

 

[Mussels]

Its not just the CPU temperatures, its the VRM circuitry of the board itself - it can only provide so much power to the CPU without the VRM's overheating. They may have wattage limits as well as thermal limits, so even cooling them wont help.

Doing what you can to lower the wattage (lower CPU volts, with or without lower the CPU speed) is the best method there - either by underclocking, or a lower TDP CPU.

 

[Avengerpilot]

So to fix this simply turn off boost with the 9590 and set the clockspeed to 3.5ghz, 1.25-1.275v. It may still drop clocks on you, but it will not be anywhere near as often.

My main problem is it throttled the gpu

 

[cdawall]

My main problem is it throttled the gpu

The GPU throttling has absolutely nothing to do with the CPU.

 

[hat]

Maybe he means the GPU was not being used to its fullest due to slow CPU?

 

[cdawall]

Maybe he means the GPU was not being used to its fullest due to slow CPU?

Unless it is clocking down to nothing. Even playing metro 2033 @1080p using crossfire and streaming it to my HTPC using steam stream my opty's run around 1.3ghz with one or two cores occasionally bumping up to 3.2ghz.