What to do after throttled cpu replacement

[hat]

That... doesn't sound right, unless it's seriously multithreaded. 1.3GHz is insanely low... maybe AMD's turbo function isn't quite as robust as it ought to be after all? Or is it some sort of load balancing between cores?

 

[cdawall]

That... doesn't sound right, unless it's seriously multithreaded. 1.3GHz is insanely low... maybe AMD's turbo function isn't quite as robust as it ought to be after all? Or is it some sort of load balancing between cores?

I was getting 60FPS with vsync set. That could have a bit to do with it. It would occasionally push to my peak turbo setting which was 4.2ghz. Also remember these are 12 core chips that have different rules for boost.

 

[n0tiert]

The entire mobo bios or a cpu bios? I believe it is up to date due to the 9590 being the highest level current amd cpu


Alright I saw the thing about the micro code and that but how would I reset it?


Which mobo do you and where did you go for optimized defaikts, also if I have an asrock 990fx extreme3 where would I go to see any defaultd? The bios page? The extreme tuner utility?

clear CMOS on Mobo and maybe there is a Bios out from your mobo vendor which supports latest AM3 CPU´s
which might include also latest AGESA Patch. All other todo´s are already said by the forum comrades

btw. max cpu TDP is 125Watt so save a few bucks and get rid of that mobo
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/990FX Extreme3/?cat=CPU

 

[Bill_Bright]

I note that FX-9590 is not listed on your motherboard's QVL. Did it even work in the first place?

 

[cdawall]

I note that FX-9590 is not listed on your motherboard's QVL. Did it even work in the first place?

It'll post in basically any AMD board I have seen them operate in a 4+1 phase 785G board...

 

[hat]

I was getting 60FPS with vsync set. That could have a bit to do with it. It would occasionally push to my peak turbo setting which was 4.2ghz. Also remember these are 12 core chips that have different rules for boost.

That's pretty impressive. I'm not familiar with AMD parts anymore to be honest, even less so the Opteron line... but 1.3GHz still seems really low. Does Metro 2033 load all your cores? If so, by how much?

 

[Avengerpilot]

Maybe he means the GPU was not being used to its fullest due to slow CPU?

Yeah

Unless it is clocking down to nothing. Even playing metro 2033 @1080p using crossfire and streaming it to my HTPC using steam stream my opty's run around 1.3ghz with one or two cores occasionally bumping up to 3.2ghz.

Then what is causing the low FPS? I have asked multiple times and it all points toward the cpu with everyone I've talked to

 

[Bill_Bright]

Interesting. Thanks. I assume since your CPU is in the same Vishera family as supported/listed CPUs, the chipset still thinks it can support it.

 

[cdawall]

Interesting. Thanks. I assume since your CPU is in the same Vishera family as supported/listed CPUs, the chipset still thinks it can support it.

Short of there being a redux in the tables (the phenom II 955 had this issue with old BIOS's), as long as the family is the same it will "work".

Yeah

Then what is causing the low FPS? I have asked multiple times and it all points toward the cpu with everyone I've talked to

Oh I am sure you are throttling immensely low, you don't have 24 cores to play with. Remember in essence I have 3 of your CPU's. Try downclocking the CPU and undervolting it. If that fixes everything, screw swapping CPU's get yourself a motherboard that actually supports your CPU.

That's pretty impressive. I'm not familiar with AMD parts anymore to be honest, even less so the Opteron line... but 1.3GHz still seems really low. Does Metro 2033 load all your cores? If so, by how much?

I will have to run it again and check. I want to say I was GPU limited and the CPU was at super low usage.

 

[n0tiert]

since it´s an centurion based CPU it has some small changes over vishera

turboCore v3 (v2 vishera)
DRAM controller supports up to DDR3- 2400MHz (1866 vishera)
L3 cache runs Northbridge 2,4Ghz speed

 

[Avengerpilot]

Oh I am sure you are throttling immensely low, you don't have 24 cores to play with. Remember in essence I have 3 of your CPU's. Try downclocking the CPU and undervolting it. If that fixes everything, screw swapping CPU's get yourself a motherboard that actually supports your CPU.

So it's too late but still how would I turn down my vcore down a notch, also what could be causing the low fps? All I want is to play just cause 3 at 60 FPS and to play star citizen alphawithout it crashing my entire computer in 10 minutes

 

[cdawall]

Then lower your vcore and lower your CPU multiplier. The CPU is probably throttling all the way down to 800mhz that is the "limp more" for AMD.

 

[Avengerpilot]

Then lower your vcore and lower your CPU multiplier. The CPU is probably throttling all the way down to 800mhz that is the "limp more" for AMD.

Ok so how much do you think the 8370 will be throttked

 

[cdawall]

Ok so how much do you think the 8370 will be throttked

The cpu is over 95w so it will throttle under load that is a known issue on that motherboard. You can try cooling the mosfets, but it is a bandaid not a fix and will probably lead to you blowing the mosfets (they wont throttle due to heat as fast)

 

[Avengerpilot]

The cpu is over 95w so it will throttle under load that is a known issue on that motherboard. You can try cooling the mosfets, but it is a bandaid not a fix and will probably lead to you blowing the mosfets (they wont throttle due to heat as fast)

What are the mosfets and why would it throttle even if 175 warts is the max

 

[Avengerpilot]

The cpu is over 95w so it will throttle under load that is a known issue on that motherboard. You can try cooling the mosfets, but it is a bandaid not a fix and will probably lead to you blowing the mosfets (they wont throttle due to heat as fast)

Also how low will it throttleto? Because I'm fine with 3ghz at this point, because my old cpu would go to 800mhz which is wayyyyy too low and it would explain the gpu crapping, so how low would it go?

 

[cdawall]

What are the mosfets and why would it throttle even if 175 warts is the max

There is no such thing as a 175w AMD CPU. So that should hint at how made up that number is.

Also how low will it throttleto? Because I'm fine with 3ghz at this point, because my old cpu would go to 800mhz which is wayyyyy too low and it would explain the gpu crapping, so how low would it go?

To start off turn off turbo. If it still throttle after that drop the voltage down and drop the core clock down. It will be fine as long as you get the wattage down. You don't seem to be understanding it is the VRM design of the motherboard and regardless of which 8 core AMD CPU you stuff in it 3.2-3.5ghz with an undervolt will be max speed.

 

[Avengerpilot]

There is no such thing as a 175w AMD CPU. So that should hint at how made up that number is.



To start off turn off turbo. If it still throttle after that drop the voltage down and drop the core clock down. It will be fine as long as you get the wattage down. You don't seem to be understanding it is the VRM design of the motherboard and regardless of which 8 core AMD CPU you stuff in it 3.2-3.5ghz with an undervolt will be max speed.

How do I turn off turbo

 

[cdawall]

In the BIOS...

 

[Avengerpilot]

In the BIOS...

But like where..
My bios consists of some weird as rock software and I can't navigate through jt

 

[Avengerpilot]

There is no such thing as a 175w AMD CPU. So that should hint at how made up that number is.



To start off turn off turbo. If it still throttle after that drop the voltage down and drop the core clock down. It will be fine as long as you get the wattage down. You don't seem to be understanding it is the VRM design of the motherboard and regardless of which 8 core AMD CPU you stuff in it 3.2-3.5ghz with an undervolt will be max speed.

Ok so 3.2 is fine but can you help me undwrvolt? I know I can use the as rock utility but which buttons do I skode, there are like 10 different sliders at various voltages

 

[cdawall]

Go into the BIOS and stop using windows software.

 

[Avengerpilot]

Go into the BIOS and stop using windows software.

It's not windows software it's an as rock version of bios

 

[cdawall]

Gross they use sliders? You need the one labeled vcore it can go to around 1.275-1.325v and then set the cpu multi to 16-17x and go from there.

 

[Avengerpilot]

Gross they use sliders? You need the one labeled vcore it can go to around 1.275-1.325v and then set the cpu multi to 16-17x and go from there.

And from there I should turn off turbo as well, also do you know that software in the asus cross hair V formula motherboard that can overclock or under clock your cpu automatically to any cpu profile form amd, is there that software I can use to edit my cpu like that?