Upgrade to 1080? Would it be worth it?

[ItsSoQuiet]

@1080 = No

But if you plan on going 1440p or 4k = yes.

Alternatively you can save yourself so cash and get a 1070 and OC that to 1080 speeds, the 1070 is 80% 1080 as they say. a slight overclock would see it perform better than a stock 1080

Any graphs to back that up?

 

[EarthDog]

Any graphs to back that up?

nope.. it ain't happening. look at tpu's own. No way a 'slight' overclock gets it there...

... now if you are maxing out a 1070, it can reach a reference clocked 1080...don't forget, a 1080 can overclock as well and get that 20% right back.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_Z/29.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1080_STRIX/27.html

 

[ItsSoQuiet]

nope.. it ain't happening. look at tpu's own reviews and look what a MAX overclock gains versus the gap (about halfway). no way a 'slight' overclock gets it there...

Bummer =( Was hoping it was true

 

[EarthDog]

I edited Big time bud... sorry!!!

My want to requote.

 

[Grings]

and a 1070 bought now will most likely have micron gddr5 and not overclock as well as the samsung gddr5 models nvidia got out to reviewers before pulling the old switcheroo..

 

[EarthDog]

Wasn't there a BIOS update released by NVIDIA to correct that issue?

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS701US701&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=new bios micron memory

 

[Grings]

there is a bios fix to stop them being unstable, its still crappy gddr5 that wont overclock anywhere near as well as samsung stuff

 

[EarthDog]

Only a concern at 4K anyway.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

nope.. it ain't happening. look at tpu's own. No way a 'slight' overclock gets it there...

... now if you are maxing out a 1070, it can reach a reference clocked 1080...don't forget, a 1080 can overclock as well and get that 20% right back.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_Z/29.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1080_STRIX/27.html

Strixx OC'd so badly though i wasnt wrong. (half wrong) its still 1080 speeds for the msi which i am getting. If i got the 1080 chances are i wouldn't of overclocked it anyway.

 

[P4-630]

Any graphs to back that up?

Valley benchmark

My score OC'd:

Some 1080:

 

[slozomby]

Valley benchmark

My score OC'd:

Some 1080:

both bad examples as CPU clock speeds will limit both cards horribly.

my 1080 cpu@4.6 gpu@1987

 

[P4-630]

both bad examples as CPU clock speeds will limit both cards horribly.

I do not fully agree with you, I had a better score than someone with an overclocked i5 6600K.

@slozomby Edit:

With i5 6600K OC'd to 4.4GHz and 1070 OC'd:

My score with i5 6500:

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Valley benchmark

My score OC'd:

Some 1080:

@P4-630 is that @Knoxx29 's 1080 ?

 

[P4-630]

@P4-630 is that @Knoxx29 's 1080 ?

yes it is.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

I would be very interested to see @slozomby v's @Knoxx29 running the bench at the same clocks.

 

[P4-630]

I would be very interested to see @slozomby v's @Knoxx29 running the bench at the same clocks.

CPU OC's only help a bit when you got an older CPU.

See the scores here:
One i5 6600K @ 4.4GHz and my i5 6500 at 3.2GHz
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...uld-it-be-worth-it.227477/page-2#post-3552392

 

[P4-630]

both bad examples as CPU clock speeds will limit both cards horribly.

The 2 x Xeon's X5677 were overclocked to 4.5GHz......

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

exactly.
is there such a difference between the 2 systems?

Knoxx 1080 scores 25% lower than sloz in the same bench at almost identical speeds

 

[P4-630]

exactly.
is there such a difference between the 2 systems?

Knoxx 1080 scores 25% lower than sloz in the same bench at almost identical speeds

Yeah right...And he's even running 2 of them..
CPU IPC?

Xeons suck in GPU benchmarks? IDK

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

its 8 real cores across 2 cpus (knoxx runs H/T off) vs 8 threads.

Old (1366) V's New (1151)

Its not much of a graphics bench if it is actually reflecting IPC differences..................more of a system bench than a gpu bench.

 

[EarthDog]

That's the nature of sli, guys... it needs more horsepower to push the data through. not sure how 2 cpus react compared to a single one.

So don't think it's a bad bench because a cpu comes into play with multiple cards...it's just the nature of the sli/CFx beast.

If it's a 3dmark, just look at the graphics score.

 

[P4-630]

That's the nature of sli

Where do you see they run 2 cards in SLI?
They both run a single 1080 card.

 

[EarthDog]

Oops... I saw 2 of them thinking it's the card, lol!

Anyway, the point really still stands. ancient (5 gens +) cpu with a modern current flagship gpu= bottleneck on most tests. tough to overcome nearly a 2x IPC difference.

Strixx OC'd so badly though i wasnt wrong. (half wrong) its still 1080 speeds for the msi which i am getting. If i got the 1080 chances are i wouldn't of overclocked it anyway.

You are wrong bud. There isnt anything slight about it. 1070s need to be around their ~2050-2100 mhz limit to reach a REFERENCE 1080. it's about max clocks on all since most 1070s overclock to within 50 mhz of each other anyway.

So yea, if you are changing things up and dropping "slight" you are correct.

Please refer to my links in that post. if you need anything cleared up, let me know.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Does this have any relevance?
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/8gb-gpu-ram-not-enough-to-handle-titanfall-2.227631/

 

[EarthDog]

I'm sure its relevant to something.... but really have no idea what it has to do with this discussion...?